He only wants people to agree with him on how he perceives Donald Trump's character to be.


Zero about policy.

And yours was "the rich are going to get richer"...your feeling is those talented, hard working, risk taking individuals should be punished...



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Hard to reply when someone simply chooses to quote a phrase or sentence and then sort of dwell on that.

I have seen this before.....you don't understand the discussions, cannot think deeper than your pockets, this is the results.

Read the proposal...it makes the rich richer, and in 5 years (I think it is 5) even richer.

Why publicize by posting all things you know nothing about ?

EVERYONE on here knows you are incapable of intelligent discussion of any kind, UNLESS you talk about a body part or a cartoon.

The "poor" ARE less poor than ever...single mothers are now receiving up to $60,000 in benefits...you can't deny that...and taxes DO go up each year...you can't deny that either.

So I don't get your point of harping on that.

To give the poor more you MUST increase the "taxes" others pay...or borrow more. Either way...making an increasing number of poor less poor...costs...at least as much more...as you are decreasing their "poorness".

Every $ we spent to make them less poor...costs an equal $ in taxation.

How can you argue that?

The point is Rockface can't argue it. He had to rely on you to do it for him.

In all that math Don, why is it no matter how many tax increases are enacted, there never seems to be any less living below the poverty level?





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You have been responded to more than once, and you are so weak minded, you don't even know it.

Such a waste of space

Why is there NEVER enough money to "fix" the poor?

Because it's NOT the poor who end up with the money. It just passes through them. Not unlike the old "company store" concept... You're NOT a slave...you are free to leave...but while you're there...you are paid but you have to pay for lodging...food...clothing...your tools sometimes...in the end...for every dollar you were "paid"...you got to keep a penny.

Our government...run...directed...by the corporations...get the government to "provide for the poor"...SNAP, food stamps alone costs $5,000,000,000 a MONTH. And it's a pass through straight to Kraft, Tyson, the entire food industry lobbies for and profits from welfare...food welfare. $60 billion a year is spent on feeding the "poor" in this country.

The rich profit when the government feeds the poor. That is why there is NEVER enough help for the poor.

The rich used to have to have to GIVE for charity...now they get to profit from it and have YOU pay for it. They...the rich...because they own the government...literally...have "their government" tax you to pay for a problem THEY created...just so YOU would have to pay them to "fix".

WHY do we have so many poor? WHY are there more every year? Because we LET them reproduce. We need a law...if you can't support yourself...you don't bring an additional burden upon the rest of us. There ARE too many people already...and there are some we don't need more of.

Look slick, if they were reporting Trump accurately , and in fact if they were actually reporting then there would be discussion on policy accomplishments but all the media does is continue its tabloid (Kardashian) ranting.

what you are really saying to me here is that you favor MSM because they demonize Trump and that is far from reporting news and reporting it accurately because what they continue to report are non-events.

Impeach him? for what?

Look slick I write on Talk to pass the time. gain information about what is going on in TV. etc We all are only sharing our opinion. You on the other hand like a few others go off on a tirade. This is not some national forum being televised across the nation. geezzz Cool your jets

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Yea, that's why they refer to CNN as Clinton News Network

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First: Poster keep speaking for me and I have said many times before on this thread that there are things about Trump that I DO NOT LIKE. Further Trump doesn't need anyone to defend him and excuse he does well for himself.

Secondly and most importantly I am not affected with reductio ad Trumpursum and /or Trump Derangement Syndrome.

My focus is on policy on Congress etc the Trump thing is a progressive trope to keep people like you focused on the wrong things.

The Democratic Party has failed and to keep that fact away from their voting base they push this Trump nonsense and people like you buy it hook line and sinker.

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Look stop bearing false witness against me. I am tired of it.

I explained in a previous post on these pages I stopped listing citation , etc because it always ended up with someone denouncing the credibility of the source. so to what avail and doing proper preparation etc.

Secondly I never have read National Inquirer in my life. And if something I referenced was printed in Alex Jones it must have been a story picked up by another news source because I do not frequent Alex Jones. and with so many news sources they have gotten to the point of staling from one another

And as for comics as a source of political news some comic strips such as Mallard Fillmore doing an astonishing job o reflecting the news more accurately then main street media

I started this thread with the premises that the news today is primarily about non-events and it is done so in order to fill the 24/7 void.

I have selected certain journalist, and Television commentators whom I believe have the intelligence and moral character to be non-partisan.

I use this post to once again establish record because we have a few posters out there who seem to take editorial license an at whim

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Be very careful here because it appears both the CIA and FBI have been politicized. Why does this call for caution? because a politicized intelligence agency quickly turns into the KGB ,Stasi, etc. That is one of the issues in the Russian voter interference deal.

If Trump did what he is accused of then I agree boot him out. However if the intelligence agencies are fabricating this stuff to cover up their malfeasance or to gain more power than the American people are in a heap of trouble . these guys are masters at deception.

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Here's another thought as respects the Administrative State. Ask yourself why is it that despite what Party takes office these long many years government continues to grow, to tax you more, to reduce your freedoms. Old people have been under the yoke for so long they have forgotten and young people never had such freedoms and so they don't know the difference.
If you focus on what people write its often about what they read but do they think for themselves?

what I speak to is sovereignty vs collectives, the individual against collection /groups . we were suppose to have individual freedoms now we have groups telling us whether we can worship or not, own a gun or not, etc. Its all done with smoke and mirrors otherwise known as policy regulations, etc and controlled by the Administrative State. The Administrative State is fixed. they watch a president elected with the thought the guy will be here for only eight years at most but we , we will live forever. Its all a shame

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"If Trump did what he is accused of then I agree boot him out. However if the intelligence agencies are fabricating this stuff to cover up their malfeasance or to gain more power than the American people are in a heap of trouble . these guys are masters at deception."

First of all I agree with this premise and wonder why it took you this long to stop calling it "made up" or a "hoax" or people just out to get Trump, which you have over and over.

You are now admitting you do not know anything about what this investigation, which I think is heroic and patriotic, might reveal. It NEVER was about Trump, but about how we were attacked by Russia.

HE and YOU have been making it all about him with denials, calling all the parties names, etc.

We do agree and now should only discuss what we know and stop calling everyone names UNTIL WE ACTUALLY KNOW THE RESULTS.

1. I believe, more in this era of crazy web sites, that readers on this forum deserve to know what source you used in coming to your position on an issue. Certainly not on every post, but the prolific number of extreme bizarre websites, the use of bots by foreign powers (as evidenced in congressional hearings) to spread NON facts makes this even more important.

2. I never said you read the National Enquirer, but alluded to the fact that most of your examples of media coverage center on the type of story you would find on their pages (Mrs. Trump shoes, Kardashian). These were given when you were specifically asked for examples of your complaint about media. And Trump does read the Enquirer and has bragged on it quite a bit.

You DID directly refer to Alex Jones at least twice, once saying it was "sent to you".

3. I think you are extremely unfair, among other things, to attack the main stream media, and attack is the correct word, without feeling you need to make a case or give examples. Your criticism has ranged from the Trump Syndrome to lying and distorting, etc. and using Kardashian or a show story is a bit of a "stretch"

The media does a great job.

When the President of the United States flat out lies about being offered a Man of the Year and does so in such a worldwide public way, that's news.

When the President of the United States tears down CNN International, a standard for the world in international reporting, and touts Fox, a well known network who has a very very narrow message, and does it on a world wide stage, that's news.

Those, as I know you know, are just two examples in the past few days of bizarre action by our President. That bizarre behavior, AND ESPECIALLY THE DECEIT AND LYING, is news.

Objecting to the reporting of this kind of behavior is puzzling to me.

I respect most of the sources for news we have. They do try to get to the facts. Trump does not. He only accepts the news that boosts his colossal ego. And I see little evidence of a conscience in Trump's make-up.

In order to have any discussion on a political forum, especially in todays age, we need to know what is influencing posters, ie. source of news. We all know that all sites are not honest either by commission or omission.

We are getting simply anti Trump or love Trump posts and not much that supplies any validity to it, and it certainly in most cases is simply an echo chamber for extreme hard core web sites.

I admit to being anti Trump.....for over a year I have been open about that and why. I give links for almost all my posts because it is important to share that.

Now, many mock my cut and paste or supplying link and post how they do not read them. Their choice but then they waive any consideration by me of even doing anything but mocking whatever they say, especially those weak minded folks who are only happy when the discuss body parts and or use obscenities.

I have been aggressive with those who attack the media as the source for Trump problems (low approvals, etc) because they are very clear that their only concern is that Trump got bad press, NOT WHY, nor the validity of the report. They attack, and it all sounds like a rehash of his tweets, which are never substantiated either.

The media does a good job of reporting facts. We do a lousy job of accepting them.

Let me fix it for you:

The media does a good job of reporting lies. We do a good job of accepting them.

example, please !1