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Guest 10-11-2015 01:58 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1127592)
Actually, you are partially wrong. The Supreme Court DOES take religion into consideration when making some decisions. Remember, we have the constitutional right to FREEDOM OF RELIGION. And there have been many court decisions based on one's religious freedom. But, I get what you mean.

The decisions "rendered by the Supreme Court are the law of the land" until another court decides differently. The court does change when judges die or retire.

We have three branches of government, and the president is NOT king, emperor, supreme ruler, etc.....regardless of what he thinks. Obama abuses his right to executive order, more than any other president. It does not matter the quantity of EO's signed, but the power and effect they have. This King of Czars has abused his power on several occasions and he will go down in history as the worst, most abusive and divisive presidential experiment ever.

As far as your first point saying you can't find anything related to my statement, that's your problem. You asked, I told you, and it is up to you to dispute my statement with countering research. I am not going to do it for you. I am tired of doing the work for liberals. And it was a Federal Court order that Obama violated, that may not have gone to the Supreme Court. But, it just shows one incident of many that Obama blatantly disregarded in contempt. He even said publicly that he felt that the Supreme Court is wrong on more than one case.

First he defied a federal court order, after his administration had phonies up some documents and got caught relative to derailing in the Gulf. You can read what it cost in jobs, etc at this link.

Day 9: Obama repeatedly defied federal court with Gulf oil policies | Washington Examiner

He has also violated federal rulings on immigration more than once as I recall.

Guest 10-11-2015 03:32 PM

"As a matter of fact, they don't use "fact" in their interpretation, but "opinion." Obama doesn't listen to the Supreme Court, so why should we?"

Well, this turned out to be a false statement, didn't it? You could not name one Supreme Court decision that was disregarded by Pres. Obama.

As for Congress making law and not the Supreme Court - true - the Supreme Court interprets the law to determine constitutionality of the law.

Is the Supreme Court just a bunch of "fags" who make laws - as one poster stated? How about the Hobby Lobby decision? Were the conservatives happy about that decision? Sort of depends on whether or not it is YOUR ox being gored, doesn't it?

Same Sex Marriage became law of the land the instant the decision was made by the Supreme Court. Davis was legally WRONG in not providing the service of marriage licenses. It was her sworn duty as a public official.

Guest 10-11-2015 04:49 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1127657)
"As a matter of fact, they don't use "fact" in their interpretation, but "opinion." Obama doesn't listen to the Supreme Court, so why should we?"

Well, this turned out to be a false statement, didn't it? You could not name one Supreme Court decision that was disregarded by Pres. Obama.

As for Congress making law and not the Supreme Court - true - the Supreme Court interprets the law to determine constitutionality of the law.

Is the Supreme Court just a bunch of "fags" who make laws - as one poster stated? How about the Hobby Lobby decision? Were the conservatives happy about that decision? Sort of depends on whether or not it is YOUR ox being gored, doesn't it?

Same Sex Marriage became law of the land the instant the decision was made by the Supreme Court. Davis was legally WRONG in not providing the service of marriage licenses. It was her sworn duty as a public official.

You're kidding right? Do you not read other posts than yours? If you don't realize that Obama violates federal law as well as court orders, then you have your head in the sand. Do some research. Prove me wrong, if you can. But, you can't. You know that my statement is true.

Federal court found that Obama's moratorium on drilling in the gulf was illegal. He was warned, but he maintained it anyway.
Obama violated immigration law.
Obama sicked the IRS on the Tea Party. Tell me he didn't know it was going on and I will tell you that you have a leader that doesn't know what his troops are doing. Therefore a failed leadership.
Obama's attorney general sued AZ for upholding federal law.
Obama is not enforcing federal law pertaining to immigration.
Obama's SecState violated many federal laws pertaining to the safe storage and handling of classified material. A national security issue. He didn't know? Is he stupid or what?

It doesn't take much to use Google. You seem to be smart if not lazy, so you can find all of this on the Internet, if your eyes have been closed to the news media for the past seven years.

Guest 10-11-2015 05:12 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1127657)
"As a matter of fact, they don't use "fact" in their interpretation, but "opinion." Obama doesn't listen to the Supreme Court, so why should we?"

Well, this turned out to be a false statement, didn't it? You could not name one Supreme Court decision that was disregarded by Pres. Obama.

As for Congress making law and not the Supreme Court - true - the Supreme Court interprets the law to determine constitutionality of the law.

Is the Supreme Court just a bunch of "fags" who make laws - as one poster stated? How about the Hobby Lobby decision? Were the conservatives happy about that decision? Sort of depends on whether or not it is YOUR ox being gored, doesn't it?i


Same Sex Marriage became law of the land the instant the decision was made by the Supreme Court. Davis was legally WRONG in not providing the service of marriage licenses. It was her sworn duty as a public official.

How about Cala. ( of all places Ca.) They vote it down and higher district judge overturned the voters? Nobody including the president should be able to overturn voting citizens

As on poster stated: the word has several meanings depending on what country or century your in.

Fag. (Noun) slang (2) offensive, a contemptible or dislikable person. The word fag has several meanings which IMO suits the surpreme counts justices that are political appointed which can be predicted 9 times out of 10 how they will vote due to there political appointed affiliation.

Guest 10-11-2015 05:46 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1127690)
How about Cala. ( of all places Ca.) They vote it down and higher district judge overturned the voters? Nobody including the president should be able to overturn voting citizens

As on poster stated: the word has several meanings depending on what country or century your in.

Fag. (Noun) slang (2) offensive, a contemptible or dislikable person. The word fag has several meanings which IMO suits the surpreme counts justices that are political appointed which can be predicted 9 times out of 10 how they will vote due to there political appointed affiliation.

:thumbup:

Guest 10-11-2015 06:17 PM

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Obama sicked the IRS on the Tea Party. Tell me he didn't know it was going on and I will tell you that you have a leader that doesn't know what his troops are doing. Therefore a failed leadership.QUOTE]

A small veering off the path here - but quite important.

Florida Goobernator Rick Scott used to be CEO of the huge hospital consortium.

They got fined about 2 Billion dollars for scamming Medicare. Scott said even though he was CEO, he knew nothing of the scam.

In your own words, a leader that doesn't know what his troops are doing is a failed leadership - yet Scott was able to stay out of jail and become Goobernator of Florida.

Guest 10-11-2015 06:20 PM

Same Sex Marriage became law of the land at the moment the decision was rendered by the Supreme Court.

Davis had no choice but to comply with it as her sworn duty as a public official.

Guest 10-11-2015 09:56 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1127683)
Obama sicked the IRS on the Tea Party. Tell me he didn't know it was going on and I will tell you that you have a leader that doesn't know what his troops are doing. Therefore a failed leadership.QUOTE]

A small veering off the path here - but quite important.

Florida Goobernator Rick Scott used to be CEO of the huge hospital consortium.

They got fined about 2 Billion dollars for scamming Medicare. Scott said even though he was CEO, he knew nothing of the scam.

In your own words, a leader that doesn't know what his troops are doing is a failed leadership - yet Scott was able to stay out of jail and become Goobernator of Florida.

because he is a lot richer and significantly smarter!

Guest 10-12-2015 03:36 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1127683)
Obama sicked the IRS on the Tea Party. Tell me he didn't know it was going on and I will tell you that you have a leader that doesn't know what his troops are doing. Therefore a failed leadership.QUOTE]

A small veering off the path here - but quite important.

Florida Goobernator Rick Scott used to be CEO of the huge hospital consortium.

They got fined about 2 Billion dollars for scamming Medicare. Scott said even though he was CEO, he knew nothing of the scam.

In your own words, a leader that doesn't know what his troops are doing is a failed leadership - yet Scott was able to stay out of jail and become Goobernator of Florida.

Dear Guest: I am not in the habit of defending politicians but for the sake of fairness let me point out that Scott's corporation merged with another firm and it was the latter firm accused of medicare fraud billing. so it is plausible that Scott did not have information concerning the past practices of this firm?

Personal Best Regards:

Guest 10-12-2015 05:36 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1127716)
Same Sex Marriage became law of the land at the moment the decision was rendered by the Supreme Court.

Davis had no choice but to comply with it as her sworn duty as a public official.

The court made an interpretation of the constitution. Not the "law of the land." Even if allowed, that does not require a court house to issue a marriage license. It just says that deviants have the right to get married. It does not require the church to perform the marriage. It only says they have the right to get married. I don't believe there is a law that states that if Davis does not issue a license, she will go to jail. I don't believe there is a statutory law that says that if she does not perform her job then she will go to jail. If you could go to jail for not performing you job, then Obama should have been thrown in jail a long time ago, for not enforcing immigration law.

Since Davis was elected(?) to her position, they probably have to use a different means to relieve her of her employment, other than outright firing her. If her employer deemed that she was wrong, then that is between them, not the court.

She should not have opened her mouth and she wouldn't be in this trouble. She could have rightly stated that she had no instruction on how to handle the documentation for a gay marriage. She could have told them to come back after proper instruction was provided to her. She handled it wrong and she will likely lose her job. But to put her in jail without a direct court order with her name on it, is illegal. Just because gays wish to punish anyone that doesn't agree with them, is not going to convince acceptance. It will likely do the opposite. Those that tolerated their deviant behavior in the past will likely become less tolerant the more they are forced to accept it as a normal behavior.

Guest 10-12-2015 06:27 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1127690)
How about Cala. ( of all places Ca.) They vote it down and higher district judge overturned the voters? Nobody including the president should be able to overturn voting citizens

As on poster stated: the word has several meanings depending on what country or century your in.

Fag. (Noun) slang (2) offensive, a contemptible or dislikable person. The word fag has several meanings which IMO suits the surpreme counts justices that are political appointed which can be predicted 9 times out of 10 how they will vote due to there political appointed affiliation.

And right now there are 3 far left liberals and one maybe two rhino's on the surpreme courts.
IMO the two laws that need upmost attending are TERM LIMITS, for senate, house, and surpreme courts justices. That right there would solve 95% of most problems. The outer would be outlawing Lobbists. Then we might have chance at citzens representation.

Guest 10-12-2015 07:38 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1127829)
And right now there are 3 far left liberals and one maybe two rhino's on the surpreme courts.
IMO the two laws that need upmost attending are TERM LIMITS, for senate, house, and surpreme courts justices. That right there would solve 95% of most problems. The outer would be outlawing Lobbists. Then we might have chance at citzens representation.

Read the Constitution of the United States! It would have to be amended before your ideas of term limits could be implemented.

Guest 10-12-2015 12:45 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1127879)
Read the Constitution of the United States! It would have to be amended before your ideas of term limits could be implemented.

So, what's the problem with that? Isn't that their job?

Guest 10-12-2015 01:38 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1128065)
So, what's the problem with that? Isn't that their job?

Have you ever looked at how the profess goes for the Constitution to be amended?

Guest 10-12-2015 02:22 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1128080)
Have you ever looked at how the profess goes for the Constitution to be amended?

All it takes is an Executive Order, right? I mean, Obama writes his own law whenever he feels like it, so the next president can too.

Seriously though, do your really think that anyone in America is going to stand in the way of a constitutional amendment on term limits?

Guest 10-12-2015 02:33 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1128094)
All it takes is an Executive Order, right? I mean, Obama writes his own law whenever he feels like it, so the next president can too.

Seriously though, do your really think that anyone in America is going to stand in the way of a constitutional amendment on term limits?

Here is a chart of Executive Orders by President. Common practice in the past and will be so in the future


Executive Orders

Guest 10-12-2015 08:23 PM

Seriously, do you honestly think that Congressmen would bring up the motion to amend the Constitution that would limit their time in Congress?

:a20:

Guest 10-13-2015 05:33 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1128240)
Seriously, do you honestly think that Congressmen would bring up the motion to amend the Constitution that would limit their time in Congress?

:a20:

It's possible. That may be something that the Freedom Coalition would do, or the Tea Party. There are some out there that are working toward a more accountable government.

Of course, the liberals are working toward a more gov dominating society, where the gov nanny controls everyone, giving the gov more control over their lives.


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