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ColdNoMore 01-28-2017 07:38 PM

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WTF? I assume you would prefer it was based on their ability to speak English...

LOL, you're even dumber than I thought. :1rotfl:

Not only is your reading comprehension/understanding almost non-existent...but you're really reaching now. :oops:

Let me type slower for you. ;)

Immigration reform should not try to restrict people from immigrating here, or pick/choose who can become American citizens...BASED ON religion/ethnicity/color of skin. :ho:

If that's too complicated for you...not my fault. :D





I'm betting that I didn't type slow enough even now though...LOL

rubicon 01-29-2017 06:00 AM

Dear Guests:

One cannot help but notice that with every fix President Trump makes progressive clamor with the same naysaying mantras and its all useless and non-contributing noise.

Rational people understand that life is complicated but solutions simple if you apply decisions directed to the benefit of this nation.

Take for instance the clamoring on these pages about vetting immigrants. Hmm seems to me the United States had a blueprint a 150 years ago when European immigrants had to stop at Ellis island

Obviously the manner in which we have been dealing with immigration has been a travesty and it needs to be reviewed and revised. and like fixing a leaky faucet you have to first turn off the flow of water.

Personal Best Regards:

Don Baldwin 01-29-2017 06:39 AM

It's WAY too late...they're already 1/3 the population...they're ALREADY the MAJORITY below age 7.

You GAVE them the country.

Rockyrd 01-29-2017 06:49 AM

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Dear Guests:

One cannot help but notice that with every fix President Trump makes progressive clamor with the same naysaying mantras and its all useless and non-contributing noise.

Rational people understand that life is complicated but solutions simple if you apply decisions directed to the benefit of this nation.

Take for instance the clamoring on these pages about vetting immigrants. Hmm seems to me the United States had a blueprint a 150 years ago when European immigrants had to stop at Ellis island

Obviously the manner in which we have been dealing with immigration has been a travesty and it needs to be reviewed and revised. and like fixing a leaky faucet you have to first turn off the flow of water.

Personal Best Regards:

You truely have no clue. Without any real investigation at all, I would guess that you generalize people and posters, label them and then mock.

Do you really believe only liberals question this order ?

Nobody is clamoring about anything. Questions are being asked and real adults are talking.

Do you really want all Americans to be like you, i.e. Walking lockstep, believing only what the president says and if a question arise just keep quiet.

I am pro strong vetting. However, I am for doing homework first...how do we very now...what changes can we make, and if you are going to make this about only Muslim countries..how I'd you pick the ? Will these pass the legal test ? And as is being discussed, why not countries like Afghanistan, Pakistan or Turkey ?

You shallow thinking of "follow the leader" is sad...it really is

As always you present zero reasons for your thoughts other than your obvious total commitment to what you are told, which is nothing.

Do you ever get embarrassed by your lack of information and reading skills ?

Don Baldwin 01-29-2017 07:21 AM

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When almost half the voting population doesn't pay Federal income taxes and deficiet spending hardly raises an eyebrow this spiral to bottom will continue. I've been a supporter of a balanced budget amendment for some time now but think that possibility has long passed. Yes we have Republicans in all branches but the trouble is they like spending as well as Dems.

NOW you're getting it...BOTH sides borrow and give to their friends through contracts. Each side just has different friends. Some corporations and the wealthy hedge their bets, support both sides, and win either way.

dirtbanker 01-29-2017 08:36 AM

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You truely have no clue...BLAH, BLAH, BLAH....and if a question arise just keep quiet.

I am pro strong vetting. However, I am for doing homework first...how do we very now...what changes can we make, and if you are going to make this about only Muslim countries..how I'd you pick the ? Will these pass the legal test ? And as is being discussed, why not countries like Afghanistan, Pakistan or Turkey ?

You shallow thinking.. BLAH, BLAH, BLAH...which is nothing.

Do you ever get embarrassed by your lack of information and reading skills ?

Rockface - Has anyone pointed out that your posts are a boring read? A lot of hypocrisy and BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. Your wife must fall asleep listening to your drivel, and it is not due to her old age. You don't need to type a paragraph just to insult someone, get to the point old man!

Your in favor of extreme vetting (the rest of your paragraph reads like something DimWitDave would type and I have no idea what your trying to say). So HOW WOULD YOU DO THE EXTREME VETTING?
Go ahead maybe your idea is better than Trump's, but lets hear it...Instead of a rant BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

Now please do not come back without telling us how you would do the vetting, just to insult someone with a paragraph of jiberish.

Don Baldwin 01-29-2017 08:51 AM

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When almost half the voting population doesn't pay Federal income taxes and deficiet spending hardly raises an eyebrow this spiral to bottom will continue. I've been a supporter of a balanced budget amendment for some time now but think that possibility has long passed. Yes we have Republicans in all branches but the trouble is they like spending as well as Dems.

When MORE than half the population are Hispanic/black...the spiral to the bottom will intensify. We need to actively round up and kick out about 50 million, preferably more...Hispanics that SHOULDN'T be here. The illegals AND their anchor babies MUST go, or the country is lost.

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LOL, you're even dumber than I thought. :1rotfl:

Not only is your reading comprehension/understanding almost non-existent...but you're really reaching now. :oops:

Let me type slower for you. ;)

Immigration reform should not try to restrict people from immigrating here, or pick/choose who can become American citizens...BASED ON religion/ethnicity/color of skin. :ho:

If that's too complicated for you...not my fault. :D





I'm betting that I didn't type slow enough even now though...LOL

Why not? ALL the evidence over the past almost 60 years has shown that white/asian immigrants are successful and IMPROVE the country as a whole. They "melt in", contribute, aren't a net drain. While "brown" immigrants are needy and destroy everywhere they go.

Prove me wrong. Show me I'm wrong. Why is it "racist" to point out verifiable characteristics of different species? We can talk about the difference between cats and dogs, it's not "offensive", so why can't we talk about the differences between Homo sapiens sapiens, homo sapiens africanus, and homo sapiens americanus?

The physical appearance is VERY different, the bone structure is different, musculature is different, physiological processes are different, mental processes are different, we suffer different diseases...WE'RE NOT THE SAME.

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Posted by Guest
Dear Guests:

One cannot help but notice that with every fix President Trump makes progressive clamor with the same naysaying mantras and its all useless and non-contributing noise.

Rational people understand that life is complicated but solutions simple if you apply decisions directed to the benefit of this nation.

Take for instance the clamoring on these pages about vetting immigrants. Hmm seems to me the United States had a blueprint a 150 years ago when European immigrants had to stop at Ellis island

Obviously the manner in which we have been dealing with immigration has been a travesty and it needs to be reviewed and revised. and like fixing a leaky faucet you have to first turn off the flow of water.

Personal Best Regards:

How do you vet the uncivilized? How do you vet someone from a 3rd world ghetto? We couldn't vet the average gang banger in the inner city slums of America. They're part of the anonymous poor.

You could vet the white people coming from Europe because they came from 1st world civilized countries. They had organized records.

These immigrants we're getting now...could be anyone. They show up and say..."Hi, I'm Mohammad and I want to live in America" and we let them in.

Too late...it's been a gusher for too long. Now the illegals anchor babies have had their own kids and they're having kids too...they're the MAJORITY below age 7...the MAJORITY...that means America is lost within 30 years.

dirtbanker 01-29-2017 09:09 AM

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Immigration reform should not try to restrict people from immigrating here, or pick/choose who can become American citizens...BASED ON religion/ethnicity/color of skin.

If that's too complicated for you...not my fault. :D

You trying to say something, or just typing words to waste time??

If immigration reform would not be restricting who or how many can immigrate here, what would it's purpose be?

The executive order addresses people entering the US from 7 countries. The executive order said nothing about "religion/ethnicity/color of skin". Those are your words in an attempt to bring those subjects to the discussion.

There is a desire to improve the screening of people coming to the US from areas of the world that are prone to violence against people that share the values that our citizens have (democracy, freedom of religion, etc). There have been terrorist acts committed around the globe, and in the US, by people that do not share our values. I support efforts to reduce the chance of these acts on our people.

You behave like a (unt; a mean and disagreeing woman, insulting, always inflammatory, and seldom provide anything other than coarse opinion of others...you accuse others of racism and then make comments in posts "people that do not speak English are undocumented immigrants"... You lie about contributing $100 to a charity, most would be too embarrassed for that...To date there have been 3 threads with your behavior as the subject matter, but you are unable to "change a leopards spots"...

tcxr750 01-29-2017 10:12 AM

If you want validation of my statements go to the social security office in Beachwood Ohio. Then sit a doctors office at the Hillcrest Medical Center. Note the disabled vans with signage in Russian used to transport elderly. The housing priority statement is based on conversation with a friend whose mother sought occupancy in a nearby apartment complex.
The point of my post. It is a fact of life that there are legal immigrants who still carry there attitude from the old country with them.
Life in Russia still has the persecuted seeking refuge in the US.

ColdNoMore 01-29-2017 10:50 AM

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You trying to say something, or just typing words to waste time??

If immigration reform would not be restricting who or how many can immigrate here, what would it's purpose be?

The executive order addresses people entering the US from 7 countries. The executive order said nothing about "religion/ethnicity/color of skin". Those are your words in an attempt to bring those subjects to the discussion.

There is a desire to improve the screening of people coming to the US from areas of the world that are prone to violence against people that share the values that our citizens have (democracy, freedom of religion, etc). There have been terrorist acts committed around the globe, and in the US, by people that do not share our values. I support efforts to reduce the chance of these acts on our people.

You really are stupid.

The executive order makes an exception for 'religious minorities'... in those countries that are predominately Muslim.

Are you really too dumb to understand...that the intent is to make exceptions for Christians? :ohdear:

So of course...it is aimed solely at Muslims.

And the reason that is unacceptable, is because that is NOT what this country stands for, nor will true Americans allow putrid, xenophobic, racist jerks like Chump and you...change it. :wave:

So now tell us why the predominately Muslim countries that have actually had citizens attack on American soil...ARE NOT included?

Trump's Immigration Freeze Omits Those Linked To Deadly Attacks In U.S. : Parallels : NPR

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President Trump's freeze on immigration from seven mostly Muslim countries cites the potential threat of terrorism.

But here's the twist — it doesn't include any countries from which radicalized Muslims have actually killed Americans in the U.S. since Sept. 11, 2001.

Similarly, the Boston Marathon bombing was carried out by two brothers, Dzhokar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev, who were born and raised in southern Russia, another country not on the White House list.

And you think it is just coincidence, that those countries excluded... are ones where Chump has business interests?

What flaming ignorance and hypocrisy. :oops:



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You behave like a (unt; a mean and disagreeing woman, insulting, always inflammatory, and seldom provide anything other than coarse opinion of others...you accuse others of racism and then make comments in posts "people that do not speak English are undocumented immigrants"... You lie about contributing $100 to a charity, most would be too embarrassed for that...To date there have been 3 threads with your behavior as the subject matter, but you are unable to "change a leopards spots"...

LOL

Three or four misogynist, racist, bigoted, lying, hypocritical, xenophobic, homophobic and general gutter scum... whining about me telling the truth? :D

Like I fvcking care. :1rotfl:

:wave:

dirtbanker 01-29-2017 12:01 PM

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The executive order makes an exception for 'religious minorities'... in those countries that are predominately Muslim.

...to make exceptions for Christians?

So of course...it is aimed solely at Muslims.

And the reason that is unacceptable, is because that is NOT what this country stands for, nor will true Americans allow putrid, xenophobic, racist jerks like Chump and you...change it.

Interesting point. If we follow your logic and examine Obamma's action of preventing the minority Christians from entering the country = Obamma was a putrid, xenophobic, racist jerk and you never said a word about it, you are just as guilty as he is!

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So now tell us why the predominately Muslim countries that have actually had citizens attack on American soil...ARE NOT included?

Trump's Immigration Freeze Omits Those Linked To Deadly Attacks In U.S. : Parallels : NPR



And you think it is just coincidence, that those countries excluded... are ones where Chump has business interests?

That has to be it...or is it for another reason?? Maybe they speak better English. Neither of us knows, do we? You just want to make $hit up! I know we recently sent 221 million to Palestine, but not sure who was doing business there - do you???

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whining about me telling the truth? :D

Like I fvcking care.

Yeah, you mean like the $100 you donated to charity, that kind of TRUTH??


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