I am, in general, not a fan of our President. However, this morning he made it clear that he and the other western nations will oppose Iran getting a nuclear capability. He and the other world leaders have made their intentions clear and I fully support him in this.

President Barack Obama, French President Nicolas Sarkozy and British Prime Minister Gordon Brown announced this morning that Iran is building a covert uranium enrichment facility. They were clear that the October talks with Iran would be focused on this and that if acceptable action was not taken by December 1st, further sanctions will be put in place. For obvious reasons, these sanctions were not delineated.

http://blogs.wsj.com/g20/2009/09/25/...lear-facility/

Just as I have written my representatives to oppose the Government Health Plan, so I am writing them to support President Obama in this and hope that all of you will do the same.

Originally Posted by BBQMan

I am, in general, not a fan of our President. However, this morning he made it clear that he and the other western nations will oppose Iran getting a nuclear capability. He and the other world leaders have made their intentions clear and I fully support him in this.

President Barack Obama, French President Nicolas Sarkozy and British Prime Minister Gordon Brown announced this morning that Iran is building a covert uranium enrichment facility. They were clear that the October talks with Iran would be focused on this and that if acceptable action was not taken by December 1st, further sanctions will be put in place. For obvious reasons, these sanctions were not delineated.

http://blogs.wsj.com/g20/2009/09/25/...lear-facility/

Just as I have written my representatives to oppose the Government Health Plan, so I am writing them to support President Obama in this and hope that all of you will do the same.

I certainly "have his back" if that can be said in support. Since we were aware for awhile, just keep an eye on what is going on there until Dec., but I for sure support this action !!!1

I may be a bit cynical but, have you ever drawn a line in the sand? Come back the next day or in a couple hours, or often in just a few minutes and the line is gone, disappeared, kaput, never existed. Tried it once burying cold beer in the chilly underbelly below the surface though the top layers of sand were well over 100 degrees White Sands. (Kind of a rambler, wasn't it) Didn't use a big enough flag and it blew away. There's a cold six pack of 40+ year old Bud out there somewhere.

But I digress --- U.S. President Barack Obama, French President Nicolas Sarkozy and British Prime Minister Gordon Brown are normally a nice three of a kind to start any hand, but unless they are joined by their Chinese and especially Soviet/oops/Russian counterparts, absolutely nothing will happen. This will have given Obama an opportunity to meaninglessly talk tough on a foreign policy issue after a 7-8 month mush mouthing. 'Tis a pity the man cannot be as hard on national security and safety foes as he is those vicious retirees who oppose health care or any other of his policies.




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Originally Posted by Muncle

I may be a bit cynical but, have you ever drawn a line in the sand? Come back the next day or in a couple hours, or often in just a few minutes and the line is gone, disappeared, kaput, never existed. Tried it once burying cold beer in the chilly underbelly below the surface though the top layers of sand were well over 100 degrees White Sands. (Kind of a rambler, wasn't it) Didn't use a big enough flag and it blew away. There's a cold six pack of 40+ year old Bud out there somewhere.

But I digress --- U.S. President Barack Obama, French President Nicolas Sarkozy and British Prime Minister Gordon Brown are normally a nice three of a kind to start any hand, but unless they are joined by their Chinese and especially Soviet/oops/Russian counterparts, absolutely nothing will happen. This will have given Obama an opportunity to meaninglessly talk tough on a foreign policy issue after a 7-8 month mush mouthing. 'Tis a pity the man cannot be as hard on national security and safety foes as he is those vicious retirees who oppose health care or any other of his policies.




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Your points are well taken, but I sincerely hope that he will be very strong in this arena. I agree with the China/Russia thing, and hope we dont get into another of the years and years of playing around with Iraq.

This is a very dangerous world we live in....some may not think so...but it is. We must be strong in all ways and not start to give in to appease.

Right now, he has my support !!!

with what he does. In the world terror arena, I hope he does what is right, however, by virtue of his moves to date internationally.....to down play the US and reach a hand toward adversaries and terrorist....is a bit concerning.

Giving Almadinanutjob over 60 days to get things ready for either moving or defending has a very familiar ring to it. Remember when Saddam Huessein was given time to get things hidden or moved....he did!!!

I vote to go back to the Israeli approach they used to be famous for.....mess with them and you could count on being hit back. Not so much anymore since they have become politicized by their allies.

And isn't the threat of sanctions sorta a worn out way to get these mad men to respond. They take no value in the well fare of their people so what do the sanctions do.....doesn't seem to be a very effective resolve.
Just look at history and what the sanctions have done for N. Korea. Cuba.

I prefer to be more hawkish and send a clear signal to the current regimes as well as the future. We need to rid the USA of the paper tiger image it is earning.

btk

Originally Posted by billethkid

with what he does. In the world terror arena, I hope he does what is right, however, by virtue of his moves to date internationally.....to down play the US and reach a hand toward adversaries and terrorist....is a bit concerning.

Giving Almadinanutjob over 60 days to get things ready for either moving or defending has a very familiar ring to it. Remember when Saddam Huessein was given time to get things hidden or moved....he did!!!

I vote to go back to the Israeli approach they used to be famous for.....mess with them and you could count on being hit back. Not so much anymore since they have become politicized by their allies.

And isn't the threat of sanctions sorta a worn out way to get these mad men to respond. They take no value in the well fare of their people so what do the sanctions do.....doesn't seem to be a very effective resolve.
Just look at history and what the sanctions have done for N. Korea. Cuba.

I prefer to be more hawkish and send a clear signal to the current regimes as well as the future. We need to rid the USA of the paper tiger image it is earning.

btk

I'm confused BTK. Are you suggesting we use our military in Iran now??? So, far this "attack immediately" mode hasn't worked. Am I understanding you correctly?

Originally Posted by chelsea24

I'm confused BTK. Are you suggesting we use our military in Iran now??? So, far this "attack immediately" mode hasn't worked. Am I understanding you correctly?

From what I am reading and hearing these bunkers are so deep in the ground that we have NO weapons that can reach it !!

If you talk attack, you have to talk invading !!!

We have to get a bit stronger earlier with some of these folks and not allow this to go on this long.

These location, according to news broadcasts, were known for "years" (whatver that means)...why we were quiet....???/

I was commenting on the Israeli approach to being tread upon or threatened.
Once upon a time there was no ambiguity in what Israel would do if tread upon or threatened. Like clock work they would retaliate with destruction of the objective....not just a warning shot.
In the latter years they have turned political like too much of the rest of the world. As a result, they get tread upon and now the expectation is....not much as a result.

I am hawkish about the USA and it's holdings and people being tread upon. I believe in the Teddy Roosevelt school of diplomacy...walk softly and carry a big stick and use it unsparingly when deserved.

I do not believe, nor did my post intend any US participation. I do however believe Israel has let far too much time go by without doing what they used to do best......use the big stick.

All the nice-nice politics and the permissive, pacifist approach only begets a bolder enemy.....especially among those who are avowed to kill as many Americans as possible.

On a separate note, the facilities may be well entrenched, but as far away from anything as they are....a good old scorching of the earth attack would make the place un appraochable for a long time. But that would not be very diplomatic. It would be playing by the adversaries rules however!

btk

Iran is so happy.

All this talk talk talk is just what they want to give them the time they need.

We have been talking for years while they are doing exactly what they want and nobody will ever talk them out of it.

the explanation for the missile tests as just another step in the the quest for peaceful use of nuclear power.
Sanctions? Sanctions are the political explanation for having taken action. When an unacceptable action by another is taken, politicians can sit around the table and feel they have done something by invoking sanctions. To which guys like Almadina Nutjob and Kim Jong Ill just look at us and laugh and continue doing what they were intending to do without missing a stride or heart beat.
Sanctions = realists joke!!!
Instead of talking softly and carrying a big stick.....we talk a lot and hand out money....which doesn't work either....just look at N. Korea.

Sanctions? Here is Almadina Nutjobs reaction

Let me see, if he is supplying the opposition in Iraq and Iran with conventional weapons, does anybody think he would hesitate to supply anybody who wants to kill Americans with even just nuclear waste to make dirty bombs? Of course he will.
Sanctions? Totally and completely useless against some one who could care less about them and their impact.

btk