Obviously my post right before this is NOT comparing apples to apples, but it reflects some posters who do not even read news nor investigate what is happening in the world or the country. NOTHING is so clear and black and white as some make it. NOBODY is as perfect as these people see President Obama.

Having a closed mind on everything and refusing to find out what is actually happening, ignoring discussion on things that are uncomfortable must be comfortable.

Much of what our President has done economically I agree with and I have agreed with him on many things, but this blind total dedication to someone because either he is of your party OR you just do not want to make the effort to learn is sad.

BOTH parties want that by the way. They feed the news cycles, they have more people to spin what is happening to cause that blind loyalty or blind hate than they have working on problems. When we get sucked up into that, we end up making kings, demonizing others and shutting out any discord, which believe it or not used to be a good thing.

Great post! The only way out of the mess in this country (and as you stated, it goes both ways) is for more people to start thinking with open minds and acting like adults, not party hacks.

We live in an era where much of the knowledge some have is limited to what they see and hear on the television. Which means for the most part network news and programming that contains the slant the networks want all to embrace.

When we were kids growing up, no television...only movies at the theatre.
Our parents would remind us that what we see in the movies was not real.

Somebody needs to remind the general population that what they see and hear on the networks for the most part is not real. But it is very difficult to make any headway with an already closed, brain washed like mind.

I am convinced that the only way is reading. Television sometimes is so totally inaccurate, it makes you grind your teeth.

Reading BOTH SIDES is important. Any issue has two sides; all are complex, and despite what some say neither party or ideology has a patent on what is right.

The supposed advantage of a forum like this is to share information, and get another viewpoint.

The trolls will simply one line wit the tired old one liners that they heard on one of the supposed news channels. I have been harping on our coalition that is supposed to be fighting ISIS. I, first of all, have not heard this discussed on TV, but I would bet.....on MSNBC they will mention it to point out the quality of the President....on Fox, they will point out its flaws, and this applies to all the networks...I simply chose those as examples. Today I posted a report from the meeting in France from the AlJazeera network, not because they are so good, but it is even hard to find a report.

Good news for Jeb Bush. As his brother's poll numbers improve, maybe he can ride this wave right in to the White House.

[QUOTE=Guest;1069398]Good news for Jeb Bush. As his brother's poll numbers improve, maybe he can ride this wave right in to the White House.[/QUOTEA

Again ..a troll is easily recognized. They have no information or thought..the simply fill space with trite. And they and their cronies find it funny. Have heard of this with High School students, but why spend your time posting wisecracks

[quote=Guest;1069430]Once again, you only seem interested in looking for replies from "trolls", admonishing them, but NEVER adding to the subject of the thread. Once again, I have to say, you accuse these "trolls" of not adding to the original thread - so please ignore their snide comments and add substantive content. As I said a few days ago to you, this is not meant in a hurtful way to you. Thank you for your future use.

[quote=Guest;1069453]The following posts are mine on this thread......

4, 6, 7, 8, 14. 15, 16, 19

I try to add information, and yes I do reply to the trolls.

They have already destroyed one political forum with the same antics, and you are right. I do not take it as hurtful, but just wonder when you are not supposed to know who is posting how you arrive at your conclusions. I look for the trolls, who are always the same people...not new posters to TOTV. I have been to try and call them out.

Done...enjoy the teen games

With Sec. Clinton's poll numbes dropping and Republican polls rising, there should be no need for the same repeated negative postings about her.

Obviously, Americans have seen through the sham and it will now be a shoe-in for any Republican.

Dear Guest: I agree with these polls . Hillary is not presidential material. And Jeb's mother was right there has to be more families than theirs with presidential timber. Jeb officially has not said he will run so there is time for him to back out and throw his support to more viable candidates.

Hillary Clinton is running in a stopped position

The Democrats while refusing to admit it are so desperate that Bernie Sanders looks good to them. But don't laugh. We laughed in Minnesota when Jesse Ventura ran and look what happened there. Its the only time in Minnesota's history that the Democrats (DFLers) and Republicans came
together

Obama is leaving a widow maker and whoever gets elected is going to have a terrible time walking it all back. I wonder if Jesus is available because we are going to need a miracle worker?


Personal Best Regards:

Please do not get blasphemous. That is not like you. Jesus said His Kingdom is not of this earth. Thank you

True then, true now.

"In religion and politics people’s beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing."

Mark Twain

Good post.

For those who only read it once or skim or read the whole thing before launching, I suggest go back and read it slowly as it is in the prose of the day. I liked it much better the more I read it and "got the message".

Got it! You are right - at first I just briefed over it and moved on. On the second reading, I did as you said (S-L-O-W-L-Y) - good message. Thanks to poster who posted it. Makes one realize the importance of original thought.