Re: The lowest political ad in this campaign just aired
 

Chelsea! That was brilliant...I was going to bring up Christopher Reeve...he was able to use a computer as well....and there are many others. I don't understand what the big issue is.....I am sorry if the man is not able to use his hands to type....I am sure he has the funds to find a way to use a computer should he want to....

I guess that is the question....does he want to? Should he need to? Probably not....but at least be educated enough to be able to speak about it....to sound like he knows about it...

Similar to his question about condoms...he asked if President Bush thought condoms helped protect people from aides!! WHAT! That makes no sense to me.

I don't think it is an AGE related thing either! I know many seniors (75+) that know all about computers and the topics of today. McCain is not....nothing to do with age!!

The president needs to be aware and educated about the issues of TODAY....not just about war...about EVERYTHING!

Neither McCain or Palin is well enough versed in anything....IMHO!

Re: The lowest political ad in this campaign just aired
 

Neither McCain or Palin is well enough versed in anything....IMHO!
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Quite an opinion about a long term United States Senator and a Governor....ANYTHING...wow !

I am familiar with Dr. Hawking and his work - especially his change of position regarding the "big bang" theory. The sign of a true genius is to recognize when you are wrong (which he did) and go from there.

I'm also familiar with the fact that people will adapt as they believe they have to (not as others think they should) in order to meet their personal goals.

Trying to compare Dr. Hawking's adaptive choices to Sen. McCain or any other person with any type of disability by insinuating Sen. McCain is "behind the times" for not embracing computers as a personal extension of himself is elitist, as it shows an attitude of If you don't do things MY way, then you are inferior to MY kind. if computer literacy is so important, Steve Jobs and Bill Gates would be the Byte Party candidates.

If you think Sen. McCain is not sufficiently "educated" in the subjects you deem important, that is your opinion and you are entitled to it. To me (my opinon) he has well demonstrated being "educated" in these topics which I consider critical - geo-political affairs, immigration reform, campaign reform, life, tolerance towards others, national security, and energy.

Just because you interpret the advertisement as "...NOTHING to do with disabled veterans! NOTHING!" does not change my interpretation or how I feel about it. It is offensive to me. As a voter who is being targeted by advertisements to choose between Sen. Obama versus Sen. McCain (believing that the indoctrinated only view the advertisements as cheerleading!), it accomplished the reverse. As an advertising and public relations specialist, were there ever any product/service advertisements or commercials that you can remember which "blew it," causing potential customers to reject the product or service? This was one of them. It happens. So for the O/B campaign, it is time to mitigate the damage (which may not have affected you, but did me). No mitigation effort shows that the O/B campaign could care less who it offends along the way (trading my vote for one or more "younger" ones).

Sen. Obama's campaign prior to the selection of Sen. Biden as a running mate definitely targeted the youth vote with the insinuation that the over-60 population made this country a mess for his and younger generations, and that the over-60 generations were out-of-touch (whatever that is!). It remains the same since the convention. That's the change he sells. You may agree with that change - I don't.

Tunnel Vision
 

SteveZ, again, I think you're myopic as far as veterans are concerned. I think you see slams to veterans in many things that have nothing to do with them. And don't come back with "you're putting veterans down" I'm NOT!

Of course, you are entitled to your opinion in this country, as are many radical groups and cults. BTW, was out the other evening and some people I was with are starting to view the RNC as cult-like. Way to far to the right and lock-step.

As far as the economy goes, I'd bet on Steve Jobs or Bill Gates before McCain any day of the week. IMHO. :MOJE_whot:

Again, that ad has nothing to do with veterans or disabled people.

You may be right (excuse me, correct). We all probably are on certain matters. And no matter how many times you try to verbally beat me into submission, I apparently see that advertisement more wholistically than you, and it being a creative marketing error.

I know you don't "put veterans down." No good American does, and I place you that category for having the passion of your convictions, even if they mimic the Obama rhetoric (despite it requiring cult-like acceptance, wanting to initiate leftist policies and making illusory promises akin to Oz and Camelot)[LOL]

And on economic issues I too would take Steve Jobs and Bill Gates over Senators Obama and Biden as well....

You're going in for blogs now Bucco! You slammed me for doing that! Guess it never is a two way street.

It's all the same. He's out of touch and you'll never see that. But, when you vote for McCain, remember to put some cash away for a very rainy day.
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Fact is:

You posted a video that was edited and used it for your purpose

Wherever I found the CORRECT video that is what is important......

FACT IS YOU ARE POSTING EDITED VIDEOS and then call names of those who oppose you for doing whatever.....YOU are the one posting edited videos.

As to you blog comment, I only wanted you to see the CORRECT VIDEO, not the EDITED ONE YOU POSTED AS FACT !

You're going in for blogs now Bucco! You slammed me for doing that! Guess it never is a two way street.

It's all the same. He's out of touch and you'll never see that. But, when you vote for McCain, remember to put some cash away for a very rainy day.
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Lets see....
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CHELSEA posted an edited video and called it factually to make whatever point she wanted to make.

I posted the entire vidoe so you can see the actual FACTS and got the video quickly I admit but from the LA Times which makes no difference at all.....

Fact is...

Mr Cafferty had the same video I just posted and chose to completely edit it and change the meaning and you posted it as fact...and you call other posters shallow !!!!

Fact is CHELSEA..you posted an edited video cut off to make a point..it was not factual...

Fact is CHELSEA...you posted a video that was cut and edited to make a point.

I simply found the ACTUAL FACTUAL video and posted it.

Journalism at its absolute worst cutting a video AT A COMMA not even the end of a sentence !

BTW, was out the other evening and some people I was with are starting to view the RNC as cult-like. Way to far to the right and lock-step.
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Whoa...if we are going to use our friends as validation for any political thought, I have some stories for you that you would not like, but my friends are probably not as smart nor as important as yours, thus will not quote them !

Your RIGHT Bucco...they are well versed in our Armed Forces...atleast McCain is...however while I RESPECT him for his service MANY years ago...I want the WAR to END now...he does not want to do that...

As for what Palin knows...well she knows that her God has tasked us all to WAR...

again not where I want to be!

I am sure they both know more than this...but I have not heard much other than agreeing with Bush....if that is what they know...and even Palin doesn't really know that much....then I don't want them!

I want change...no more Bush...hence no McCain!! He has agreed with Bush 95% of the time...

I have agreed with Bush 0% of the time! Time for CHANGE!

From Karl Rove on Fox News
McCain has gone, in some of his ads, similarly gone one step too far in sort of attributing to Obama things that are, you know, beyond the 100% truth test.
When Karl Rove has doubts, you must be really low and dirty!
Then, in trying to make lemons out of lemonade, the architect of President Bush's two successful White House runs said the reason McCain doesn't use e-mail is because of his prisoner-of-war injuries. What?

This is a creative excuse not even McCain has offered. Instead, the senator from Arizona has indicated using e-mails or the Internet was something he just hadn't gotten around to.

Here's a large excerpt from a July 18, 2008 story from the Telegraph, a British newspaper:

...In facing Barack Obama, an opponent who is 25 years his junior and has made powerful use of the internet in his campaign, he is battling against claims he is stuck in the past.

The former US Navy pilot, who spent more than five years as a prisoner of war after his jet was shot down over Vietnam, did himself no favours when asked by "The New York Times" which websites he looks at.

"Brooke and Mark show me Drudge, obviously, everybody watches, for better or for worse, Drudge," he said, referring to his aides Brooke Buchanan and Mark Salter, who direct him to the Drudge Report website.

He added: "Sometimes I look at Politico. Sometimes RealPolitics, sometimes," an apparent reference to the website RealClearPolitics.com.

At this point, Miss Buchanan and Mr McCain's wife Cindy interjected that he also read his daughter Meghan's blog.

"Excuse me, Meghan's blog," Mr McCain said, before remarking that he also read blogs by Adam Nagourney and Michael Cooper, the reporters interviewing him.

"And we also look at the blogs from Michael [Cooper] and from you [Mr Nagourney] that may not be in the newspaper, that are just part of your blog."

When asked if he went online himself, the Arizona senator responded: "They go on for me. I am learning to get online myself, and I will have that down fairly soon, getting on myself.

"I don't expect to be a great communicator, I don't expect to set up my own blog, but I am becoming computer literate to the point where I can get the information that I need - including going to my daughter's blog first, before anything else."

After Mr McCain conceded that he did not use a BlackBerry or email, Mr Salter butted in to say: "He uses a BlackBerry, just ours." Mr McCain said: "I use the Blackberry, but I don't e-mail, I've never felt the particular need to e-mail.

"I read e-mails all the time, but the communications that I have with my friends and staff are oral and done with my cell phone. I have the luxury of being in contact with them literally all the time. We now have a phone on the plane that is usable on the plane, so I just never really felt a need to do it.

"But I do - could I just say, really - I understand the impact of blogs on American politics today and political campaigns. I understand that.

"And I understand that something appears on one blog, can ricochet all around and get into the evening news, the front page of The New York Times. So, I do pay attention to the blogs. And I am not in any way unappreciative of the impact that they have on entire campaigns and world opinion."

Mr Obama always carries his BlackBerry with him and is often seen on his campaign plane tapping out emails. The internet has been central to his candidacy, allowing him to establish a network of grassroots activists and attract small donations.
Again, no mention of war injuries making it difficult for McCain to use computer technology.

You people are quoting Karl Rove! Is this limbo? How low can you go?

Wow, I must be slipping! You're right! OK, who do you think is unbiased?

Hannerty- Limbaugh - O'Reillly? The Real Three Stooges!

Did you miss me Benj?

Ooooicantstandmccain . . . ;D
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Or Randi Rhodes of Air America, that bastian of the left, who said that Sen McCain was very well treated in North Vietnam and that Gov Palin cant be trusted with teen age boys...is this one of your heros as she speaks for the radical left ?

Or could it be the DNC who purposely cuts out the beginning and ending of quotes to give us the 100 year war crap and now how Sen McCain says the economy is in good shape....yeah...

They for sure are the good guys !

Facts!
 

Bucco, just in case you're interested in facts, please watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OV37...eature=related

And don't bother to come back with "oh that reporter Cafferty is biased.

I've heard that song before.

Thanks, for no thanks, Charleeeeeeeeeeee.

I have known people who use the "Columbus method" to type. Many people type using only their two pointer fingers. Many people use just the pointer finger of their dominant hand. I don't think not being computer literate has anything to do with war injuries. I don't believe McCain labels himself as "disabled" in any way. IMO, you sell him short by laying his lack of computer skills on his war injuries. I think more of him than that.