Are you actually saying you are in fear for your life when walking in The Villages that you are going to need a pistol? I walk my dog on the streets after midnight and feel 100% safe. I feel 100% safe at the town squares. I honestly have never felt the need to carry a pistol in The Villages. It is your right to do so - if you have a permit and do not go into a bar - so go right ahead and do so. Personally, I think it is ridiculous, but that is your right to do so.

What would be the requirements? What kind of training would be needed? Just wondering how you would work this program. The vast majority of armed police officers can not shoot and you would expect something different from the average civilian. Those of us that are trainers and train and shoot competitively are in the minority of shooters.

The CCW permit from your home state should be treated the same way your driver's license is, recognized and honored by every state.

I still think that it is best left up to the states on what kind of training each State decides will be needed for issuance of a CCW for that's States citizens. Either good or indifferent training, it is not for the Federal Government to decide. Could even be a violation of State's Rights and no matter how I personally feel, the Fed's need to stay out of State's business.

Personally I feel that if you are going to carry you need to, at a minimum shoot at least quarterly under stress, so you will have some idea of how to react under a stressful situation. Otherwise you will make a really good target.

Well, Figmo, you make about the most sense of the folks who carry weapons and post here.

The CCW permit could be honored like a driver's license but don't forget that you have to apply for a state driver's license after becoming a resident of that state within a short period of time. I think Florida has a 30 day time period for obtaining a Florida driver's license - it might be somewhat more but no more than 90 days.

I believe requalification with shooting skills should be mandated for the CCW permits on a regular basis - and under stressful situations like you said.

"Are you actually saying you are in fear for your life when walking in The Villages that you are going to need a pistol?"

Of course not and you know it. Seems there is a consistency of thought when what ever is the subject to some folks position. If not for it, then chastise in any manner possible. Very consistent!!

btk

buggyone, I believe that it was my statement that you should have to be a resident of the state to get that state's CCW.

Why did you say, "about the most sense" instead of "the most sense?" I know several TVers who carry and do the same training that I do, thru competitive shooting. Besides you can sit beside me, talk to me and never realize that I am carrying, that is why it is called a concealed weapon. Since I very seldom drink alcohol you will never know if I am armed or not since my drinks of choice are Ice Tea and soda.

I have carried a firearm in an official capacity most of my adult life, starting at the age of 18, when I joined the Military. Other then my vacation time in RVN I have only had to draw my firearm once as a civilian law enforcement officer, did not have to use it, and never as a CCW holder. I hope that I never do. I still train, keep up my practice with my carry firearm, just like I keep auto, home, and life insurance up todate. Never know when I will need it, and hope everyday that I never need any of them.

Everyone that has a driver's liscense didn't take the same test or was required to meet the same requirements, yet they can drive in all 50 states and most everyother country.

Why not have a National Carry Permit?

Just because they have a liscense doesn't mean they can drive or should be driving. But they do. Driver's are not tested every four/six years because it would melt down the system trying to complete all the tests.

What does it take to transfer a DL from one state to another? An eye test? It's been while for me so I'm not too sure. But it isn't much.

If you have accidents, do they stop you from driving? Yes, but not after the first 1XXX accidents.

As for safety, yes TV is safe and we feel safe. So did those 8 people sitting in a beauty salon in Calf. What about the people killed sitting in a McDonalds? Did they think it could happen to them? Bottom line is, it can happen anywhere. My two cents.

Well, Jim - you have kind of answered a few of your own questions regarding a National Carry Permit.

1. If you have accidents, do they stop you from driving? Jim, do you think that accidents with firearms should be treated the same way as car accidents? Wow, I hope not - and I am sure you do not feel that way.

2. Just because someone has a driver's license doesn't mean they can drive or should drive. Do you feel that way about a permit to carry pistols? I am sure you do not feel that way, either.

3. The Villages is safe but let's not forget a shooting in a McDonald's or a beauty parlor. Jim, do you honestly feel that is a possibility here? Another poster was telling the forum he believes home invasion is a good possibility here in The Villages and he answers the door with a drawn pistol every time. Personally, I feel that is ridiculous - but each to their own, I guess.

I was at Lake Sumter Landing this evening enjoying the crowds of people, the golf carts, the cars, Rocky and the Rollers, and there was not a speck of trouble anywhere I could see. No reason to be scared, Jim, no one is out to hurt you. Come out and enjoy life in The Villages.

don't forget to leave room for the "war" story aspect to what some would have us believe....answering the door with gun drawn....now that is impressive either way i.e. true or false...but hardly believable...but then again......

btk

buggyone, cars kill way more people than guns do.

Food for thought:

Myth: Guns are not a good deterrent to crime

Fact: Guns prevent an estimated 2.5 million crimes a year, or 6,849 every day. Often the gun is never fired and no blood (including the criminal’s) is shed.

Fact: It seems to be slowing down property crime (especially burglaries).

Fact: Every day, 550 rapes, 1,100 murders, and 5,200 other violent crimes are prevented just by showing a gun. In less than 0.9% of these instances is the gun ever actually fired.

http://www.GunFacts.info will give you lots of information on media myths of firearm ownership.

WOW Figmo Bohica! Those are impressive statistics. While I support the right to bears arms, I have never really looked into this kind of information. Thanks for your post. :coolsmiley:

the statement that guns kill people is as credible as saying the eraser on a pencil is responsible for misspelled words!

btk

billethkid, right you are. People kill people no matter what means they use, but guns seem to have become an object that most are concerned about.

If you really want to see what gun control (people control) does check the crime levels in Austrailia and the UK. Up, Up and Away they go.

This posting was not about gun control. It was asking why a non-resident of Florida should be able to receive a Florida concealed carry permit - and by mail order, too.

My point was only to say that a CCW permit from Florida should only be for Florida residents.

Requalification firing and stressful situation firing should be included as well for obtaining and renewing the CCW permit.