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Guest 02-11-2015 10:27 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1010351)
The most recent data from the CDC stops with data from 2011 and 2012. The immigration border blitz did not get hot and heavy until after the CDC data was reported. Seems that the CDC just might not 'contravene' Dr. Carson if he is addressing the latest border breach.

Ok, I'll bite on your bait. The hot and heavy border blitz? The latest border breach? Are you referring to the children who were mostly coming from small central American countries? They were voluntarily turning themselves in to border agents and were confined to resettlement camps. Were there disease outbreaks of vaccine preventable illnesses in these camps? Was the "border blitz" shown in fact, in reality, in the real world to have imported any illnesses? There has been plenty of time for those reports. The CDC promptly investigates outbreaks of reports of illnesses and certainly these camps were watched. So what exactly are you talking about?

Carson was wrong. If you want to stop the importation of measles, the topic of this thread, then you would need to tighten the rules on visitors from the 1st and 2nd world economies, not the 3rd world. Carson was just being inflammatory and playing to the prejudice of the right wing.

Guest 02-11-2015 12:20 PM

"“Many Unaccompanied Alien Children (UAC) and family units” overwhelming US Border Patrol in the Rio Grande Valley (RGV) of Texas “require treatment for communicable diseases, including respiratory illnesses, tuberculosis, chicken pox and scabies,” stated a Thursday memorandum from Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Inspector General (IG) John Roth to DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson confirming rumors and allegations of transmissible diseases from the flood of illegal aliens who been entering the United States through the RGV border with Mexico. "......"including" = not limited to.
Homeland Security Today: UPDATED - DHS IG Confirms Infectious Diseases Among

and another:
Undocumented Immigrants bringing diseases across border? - ABC15 Arizona

Guest 02-11-2015 12:33 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1010580)
"“Many Unaccompanied Alien Children (UAC) and family units” overwhelming US Border Patrol in the Rio Grande Valley (RGV) of Texas “require treatment for communicable diseases, including respiratory illnesses, tuberculosis, chicken pox and scabies,” stated a Thursday memorandum from Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Inspector General (IG) John Roth to DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson confirming rumors and allegations of transmissible diseases from the flood of illegal aliens who been entering the United States through the RGV border with Mexico. "......"including" = not limited to.
Homeland Security Today: UPDATED - DHS IG Confirms Infectious Diseases Among

and another:
Undocumented Immigrants bringing diseases across border? - ABC15 Arizona

And by Thursday memorandum, you mean August 1, 2014. That is the date on the report.

Guest 02-11-2015 01:34 PM

Why is it in some people's world neither illegal immigrants or terrorists can do wrong? They are always bashing America and taking up for the law breakers. Why don't you focus your energy on the legal citizens of this country that need help and fight for them?

Guest 02-11-2015 01:51 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1010622)
Why is it in some people's world neither illegal immigrants or terrorists can do wrong? They are always bashing America and taking up for the law breakers. Why don't you focus your energy on the legal citizens of this country that need help and fight for them?

I don

Guest 02-11-2015 04:35 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1010588)
And by Thursday memorandum, you mean August 1, 2014. That is the date on the report.

More current that 2011 and 2012, eh?

Guest 02-11-2015 04:51 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1010622)
Why is it in some people's world neither illegal immigrants or terrorists can do wrong? They are always bashing America and taking up for the law breakers. Why don't you focus your energy on the legal citizens of this country that need help and fight for them?

Having read all the posts in this thread, I have seen NONE that imply illegal immigrants or terrorists can do no wrong, nor have I heard or read of anyone implying that in any venue. The problem with politics and political discourse these days is exaggeration or twisting of the oppositions point of view.

Guest 02-11-2015 09:11 PM

I read the reports you linked regarding children importing communicable illnesses and you have missed the important part of the link so I will provide it for you:

"According to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Public Affairs Officer Bryan D. Cox, however, "reports of an 80-person tuberculosis and 300-person chicken pox outbreak at the Artesia, New Mexico facility are categorically false. Those stats were not in the Department of Homeland Security Office of Inspector General report ... I can tell you those stats are patently false information."



"In reality," Cox said, only "two people at Artesia have been diagnosed with chicken pox – two. And to my knowledge, we haven’t had any confirmed tuberculosis cases. These cases do not pose a health risk to the local community. "

No measles no ebola no serious illness. If chicken pox is the worst they could find, well we have chicken pox every day in every state.

Guest 02-13-2015 04:06 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1010622)
Why is it in some people's world neither illegal immigrants or terrorists can do wrong? They are always bashing America and taking up for the law breakers. Why don't you focus your energy on the legal citizens of this country that need help and fight for them?

That's what I've always wondered ... it's pretty much always blame America first or argue against the obvious ... illegal aliens, Islamic terrorists etc. It's like the pitch is ... don't believe your lyin' eyes. I guess it stems from a major case of liberal guilt. In any case it's pathological.

Fact is ... prior to the influx of illegals, we essentially had no measles. Vaccine prevents the spread ... the introduction of the disease requires someone who has it to transmit it. Obama's crew covertly dispatched illegals all over the country and now we have outbreaks all over the country.

But wait ... it CAN'T possibly be that. Blame the rubes in flyover country ... that always works for the lefties. If only we could see an outflow of liberals who so hate this place. I'll chip in to buy them a one way ticket.

Guest 02-13-2015 05:21 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1011877)
Fact is ... prior to the influx of illegals, we essentially had no measles. Vaccine prevents the spread ... the introduction of the disease requires someone who has it to transmit it. Obama's crew covertly dispatched illegals all over the country and now we have outbreaks all over the country.

Ok Mr. Moderator. We obviously have an Obama fan posting this to make people who don't like him seem pathologically ignorant. No one can be so clueless as to believe that drivel.

Guest 02-13-2015 06:17 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1011918)
Ok Mr. Moderator. We obviously have an Obama fan posting this to make people who don't like him seem pathologically ignorant. No one can be so clueless as to believe that drivel.

Wah Wah ... crying out for Mr. Moderator etc. Try not to be so sensitive and delicate will you? By the way, no one is calling Obama supporters ignorant except apparently you by saying what you did.

Guest 02-14-2015 10:38 AM

“When a stranger sojourns with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong. You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God."
Leviticus 19:33-34


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