Paraphrasing.

What Pravda said "We're surprised this public official doesn't get more attention"

What Pravda didn't say "His allegations carry no weight because everything has been debunked"

I mean, come on, you expect a foreign news source to do something in-depth?

The only time in recent memory I've seen that was when it was *Al-Jazeera* that provided coverage of the fate of the 9/11 responders health bill. *Every* major news organization ignored it except for Jon Stewart (a *comedian* for crying out loud!) and Al-Jazeera English.

There's been no real investigative journalism into these allegations ever. The liberal lamestream media just accepts anything Obama's people put in front of them and say "duhhh, OK I guess that explains it.....duhhh". It's pathetic and journalistic malpractice.

At least this foreign news source is wondering why; and so am I.

Debunked???.......that's so much crap. Debunked by who?

Sheriff Arpaio's evidence should be investigated and lab tested, and his allegations based on what he found, vetted..

Richie - since I haven't had a chance to see the WHOLE thing, perhaps you can tell me..

Is there anything in that video that does NOT have something we haven't already heard? (Like the birth certificate is a forgery, etc)?

Is there actually anything new in this?

Pravda and Joe...are you kidding me?

You have not seen it ? You said in your earlier post all in that video had been debunked ??????/

I posted the vids, you tell me and then add the story where an real investigative lab looked carefully at the evidence and debunked it.

I'll save you the trouble, because no one looked into it, or evaluated it in any forensic way.

("Yes Mr. President; oh, thats a legal copy of your certificate, uh huh, uh huh, yep....that's good enough for us......sorry to bother you Mr. President......we've seen enough. Now if you'll excuse us, we're still sifting through Gov. Palin's garbage. We've found nothing but we're hopeful. Thanks for the good luck wishes, Mr. President)

OMG will the conspiracy theories ever end for you paranoid people? When I was in the military, I worked side by side with several members of the local Masons. They live and breath these conspiracy theories. You are wasting your life on this silliness. Get behind Romney with all this wasted energy and you will not have to worry about carbon dating Obamas birth certificate. chilout

Yes, I saw parts of it and the main thrust seemed to be the whole "the birth certificate is forged" argument that came out approximately 4 seconds after the President released it.

For these people, *no* answer will do. It reminds me of some of the stuff I saw on "Ancient Aliens" this weekend. The most preposterous proposals to questions presented as "facts" with every subsequent mention. The first mention is "what if" and *all* of the mentions after the first treat it as fact.

Ahhh, so it comes down to faith in Obama's honesty and the blind acceptance of document copies that were presented with no forensic investigation into the discrepancies, or even a look by an expert in document fraud, despite all the questions to the validity of the documents.

Pravda is correct in that the US Media is just giving this story a pass.

Unlike DJ and Villager II, apparently, I don't have blind faith in this administration's scrupulousness

I learned about WH scruples, or lack of them with that little ol Watergate thing. Never let my guard down since.

Not to sound snarky, but do you believe the birth announcement in the Honolulu papers at the time of his birth are also fake?

That's one reason I dismiss the birther's claims. There's just no way that such a conspiracy could have been either hatched nearly 50 years ago or implemented so quickly in 2007. The corroborating evidence goes beyond a "preponderance of the evidence".

I disagree emphatically. This whole thing is getting pushed under the rug, and I have no faith in the bureaucrats of Hawaii signing off on this Presidents birth certificate which is just a copy that had a lot of questions before, and now apparently fails preliminary forensic testing in Sheriff Arpaio's investigation.

There is absolutely no "preponderance of evidence". There is a copy of a paper that apparently has been compromised.

You can accept it, but don't pretend you know diddly about any authentication of these documents. You only have the word of bureaucrats whom you know nothing about.

You have blind faith and cannot claim more than that.

So.. Someone snuck into more than one Honolulu newspaper and altered the microfilm records from 1961 in addition to forging the birth certificate and the PDF of it?

Whatever........you have no proof to show the documents are authentic, and Sheriff Arpaio's investigation points toward fraud, indeed , being committed.

If we had a "Woodward and Bernstein" looking into this and investigating this with the same fervor they put into Nixon, they maybe we'd have answers.

You accept what you've been told and have faith in Obama and the bureaucrats?

Sorry, I cannot.

So why isn't Fox News, The Washington Examiner, The New York Post, The Boston Herald, and other conservative organizations, investigating Joe Arpaio's allegations? Certainly these news organizations have the resources to blow this thing wide open, as Woodward and Bernstein did 50 years ago.

Your guess is as good as mine. Just because a paper is editorially conservative leaning doesn't make it a conservative organization.

We just don't have that kind of journalism anymore. They all just investigate from the chair in front of their computer, like you and me.

Hopefully they are, and would suppose they are. Have no idea how it might end up but it should have been done in 2008, and I know there are other shoes to drop that were not in 2008. Not into conspiracy and dont think there really is one EXCEPT that we do not know all we should about the man in the WH. Maybe it would not have mattered...maybe it does not matter now....THE POINT IS AND IS VERY IMPORTANT, things were withheld in 2008 and the vetting process was poor

The pivotal issue for me has to do what Obama & Staff and their very defensive position concerning Obama's eligibility. It seems that Obama's background is shrouded in secrecy and /or denials as respects affiliations with certain people and organizations. And in fact his wife's scholastics records are also heavily guarded.

Clearly Obama had a close relationship with Ayers, Rev Wright, a radical professor recently revealed, a radical rabbi, etc. Just based on associations one could draw some logical and factual conclusions. Of course the liberal media will not. As for conservative media they will ignore it because they do not want the distraction.

Simply stated "methinks Obama protests too much"

Again the country can't withstand the reality that Obama was not or improperly vetted and those are the reasons two of the reasons this issue won't go away.

Regardless of a news organization's political persuasion, the media should be swarming all over Joe Arpaio's evidence for the good of the country. This could be the biggest story of the century, just as Watergate was the biggest story of the last century. I'll stay tuned.

What size story was a candidate attending church at a church that taught Black Liberation and whose pastor preached hate FOR TWENTY years and having that pastor being called by the candidate his mentor and advisor ?

What size story was/is a candidate who was friend with Bill Ayers, a radical from the 60's who has killed people (this is denied by Obama, although he admits to knowing him) ?

What size story is it to know that a candidate while a community organizer was closely affliated with ACORN ?

What size story is it that a presidential candidate is a fan and actually TAUGHT the teachings of Saul Alinsky ?

ALL were just passed off by the media....and now add the recent video and a picture begins to emerge, to me anyway. None of that makes the President a criminal or anything but allow me after you answer those questions you add his youth and TOTAL AND COMPLETE lack of doing anything other than teach for a bit...community organize and then politics....what kind of philosophy do you think he brings with him ?

These are not from many many years ago..he is still a young man and I have not even mentioned all the secrecy that surrounds his past, like the grades that have been sealed...all of it together paints a picture.


So why were they all not followed up on or made to be an issue


Sorry RICHIE...will now shut up and go away

The Washington Examiner, FOX News, New York Post are just waiting for more evidence of Cowboy Joe's to be further authenticated by PRAVDA, North Yemen News, North Korean Herald, and Hugo Chavez Press.

I am still laughing at how one poster sucked in so many intelligencia from the far right with his antics.

You can surely laugh at anyone you want, but MOST readers appear to understand that this thread has NOTHING to do with whether anything is real or not, BUT the lack of media attention to it.

I have not seen many folks, you being one exception, who has not understood what it is about

RICHIE....if Buggy is correct and you are simply playing with everyone, let us know PLEASE.

why would any media pay attention to any of this garbage?

I suppose the same reason the attention paid to Romney money...Romney's past business dealings. Santorium losing by a lot years ago.a speech he made years ago. Gingerich's past political problems, etc.

I am curious to ask WHICH of what I typed is "garbage" or untrue ????

Cain's "affair", Palin's pregnant, unwed daughter, Rush Limbaugh's lack of descretion, etc,etc,etc....While "comedians" like Bill Maher get free rein to slander anyone he wants to. I also doubt that Mr. Maher will be getting sued by anyone for his comments regarding the virtue of any women.

Of course I'm not playing with this, and I'm 100% in your corner here in commenting how the media has given "The One" a complete pass on anything that could hurt him.

Buggy, and the rest of the Obama sycophants are just using the tried and true leftist tactic of "diversion and ridicule" which I've brought up time and again. When they know they have no cogent argument, that's their fall back plan. It's supposed to shut us up.

Buggy and all the other shameless leftists know that there's been no investigation, and like Buggy told me tonight, "C'mon it's been 4 years already"; so I guess the search for the truth on all these revelations slowing grinding out is beyond the leftist's statute of limitations.

I won't shut up about it. I'm not easily buffaloed.

to say this hasn't been investigated if pure selective nonsense. Joe and his boys found nothing,Trumpie found nothing,I'm sure McCain and Clinton found nothing. I think some of you don't like the results so it must be a conspiracy by everyone else to hide the truth.

Everything you wrote above is bogus, but don't let that stop you.

Richie,I beg to disagree.

Beg all you want.

In my opinion, it is time to move on to a new topic of conversation. This one keeps whipping that dead horse and it is not going anywhere.

Do you always announce your exit? Move along then Buggy, as you've run out of false points anyway. See you on another thread. I posted one today you'll love :)

Hahahaha, I was just looking at that. Not many bites YET on it. Just a matter of time. :BigApplause:

please,please,please