Well ColdNoMore I appreciate you referencing your sources. I'm big enough to admit I thought we were talking about the executive order banning Muslims not some ancient news from Dec 7th 2016. Me bad did not digest your first post. My best guess is that the executive order only references countries and not religions. If it did some court would have stopped it in a heartbeat. Now let's clarify that statement. The stop orders I that are being instituted pertains to people trapped in middle of travel not the entire executive order. At least not yet. Looks like the courts would need to prove racial discrimination based upon country of residence. That's a pretty tall order. Of course I put nothing past our system anymore. All it takes is to proclaim an action in the name of homeland security which in my book is synonymous with we can throw the rules out the window without input from we the people.

And ColdNoMore I also appreciate the moniker Ol'buddy. Truthfully I have SomeWarmingUp to do before reciprocation.

I'm not one of those who needs to feel part of a clique, or to have a group to help 'attack' those I don't like...so the reciprocation of a moniker (ie: Ol' Buddy) is not needed. :ho:

So far, you are one of the very few on the right that seems to be intent on being civil and since I 'only give what I get'...I too will try. :thumbup:

It would be appreciated however, if you could answer my questions and state plainly your view on Trump's attempt at banning an entire religion and then needing Giuliani to water it down...so that it doesn't look like what the intent really was. :wave:

Yea OK truce. It's funny to observe the conclusions people draw from these social media tools. Instant reward society. 160 word tweet and that becomes the entire bible, both testaments. Then we (me included) get to snippet that. So FYI I am not far right. Don't know what I am. Probably somewhere in the middle. Never been loyal to one political party. What did I learn from this last election? The two party system is dividing this country more than the candidates. What kind of democratic system would allow for the political party to make their own rules on how to elect the person we the people want. Really does America think the two candidates that we voted on were the best this country has to offer? I will confess I am a registered Republican that's because my wife is a registered Democrat and we were from a small rural area. My philosophy was why not both parties wouldn't want to miss a good party just in case. Also I am not a Trump lover nor am I a Trump hater. Now to answer your question about Trump banning an entire religion. I would not be for that. Trump does say some pretty stupid things like your video illustrates. I do believe he is a pretty vain individual however how much of it is firing for effect ? I don't know. One thing for sure if you want to lead you got to beat the other guys to get the position. Reminds me of the kids when they were small, "look at me, look at me". Again I don't think the executive order says no Muslims I think it probably says no travel from countries X Y Z. Also it is not forever - 90 days if I understand it correctly. My gut says a whole ban on the Muslim religion is not what is going on here but some intelligence is got a reason to pick spots of caution. Then there is the campaign promises made to save face aspect. I learned few things in life are black and white no matter how bad I want it to be that way.

One of the best advices ever given to me that I think suits this new adventure we are on is corny but cleaver "you can't drive the car looking out the rearview mirror".

EXACTLY...that is why the anchor babies are illegal too. "Under the jurisdiction" has been corrupted to include ANYONE. legal or illegal who drops a kid here.

The Constitution wasn't designed to be a "suicide pact". If a "religion" is shown to be detrimental to the nation, it SHOULD be banned along with its followers.

I could create a religion tomorrow called "Anarchy" with the religious doctrine that God wants us to bring down the government. Should it be allowed to practice freely?

You women and your emotions...it's why we don't let you play in games that matter.

Sure you can...IF...your desire is to go backwards. And that IS the direction the US has been going for the last 60 years...since the "civil rights" acts of the 60s. We've gone steadily down hill...from #1 to #25.

White MEN made this country...and made it great. As we leave, it gets worse...pure cause and effect.

Great work!
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I don't understand the problem. No one has banned Muslims from entering this country, unless they come from one of the seven countries that President Obama cited as training grounds for terrorists.
Just to be clear, people of other religious backgrounds from those countries are banned as well. But, Muslims from the other forty countries that have Muslim majority populations are not banned.
So please explain, how is this a ban on Muslims?

You just took the bait like I did. Read the original post. It references Dec 7 2016 not the executive order of Jan 28 2017. ColdNoMore did produce the evidence that Trump did make that statement on Dec7 and Pence followed up on Dec 8. Why we are talking about the old news Vs. the new news is not clear.

Correction the old news is really old news Dec 7 2015 per The Washington Post not 2016 as I stated.

Really? :oops:

I guess you choose to ignore my post #30, whereby Giuliani HIMSELF said that Trump wanted it the Executive Order to apply to just Muslims and Toady Rudy had to reword it...because even he knew it was unconstitutional. :ohdear:

Make no mistake, it WAS Chump's intention to ban all Muslims...as even Giulani stated such.

I'm sure Trump is livid at Giuliani letting this slip...but it's too late now. :D

The real question being, why are you and others going to such lengths to lie about what Trump's real intent was...and why you seem to be OK with it? :confused:

Because Islam is incompatible with western civilization? How's that? You HATE living under "white oppression"...yet you'd trade it for Islamic oppression? Which is orders of magnitude harsher? You WANT to wear a burka in Florida in the summer? It's hard to golf in one...or play tennis. Have you seen the stylish "burkini" Burkini - - Yahoo Image Search Results

Yes...I'm OK with keeping Muslims out. I'm also OK with kicking the 100 million Hispanics out. I'm OK with elimination of habitual welfare and ending affirmative action and quotas. I think women should be home teaching their children and not out pretending to have a "career" pushing papers around. While their kids are raised by Latwanda, the 3rd worlder from Somalis or Rosita who speaks no recognizable English.

How about you...you OK with that?

I would much rather kick out Un-American, flaming racists, bigots & white supremacists...who do not believe in American ideals. :thumbup:

Toodles. :wave:

WHAT are your "American ideals"...seriously, I want to know...when you think of "America" what do you envision it being?

Like a Norman Rockwell painting? My vision.

Or the border towns of Tijuana or Juarez? Our mathematically certain future IF the Hispanic invasion continues unabated. They ARE the majority below age 7 already. They WILL change the country.

Most everyone who thinks the exact opposite of you. :thumbup:

Toodles. :wave:

Always run away when asked a question. Good move....I am telling you that you should get out to these camps...they can help you not only to home your hate....but maybe to be able to converse better and respond to simple questions.

Your response here immediately brings back my elementary school years

Just for clarification (because you accidentally quoted the wrong post Rocky), yes...Baldwin DOES run away when anyone calls him on his putrid, racist, misogynistic and bile-filled beliefs. :thumbup:


ColdNoMore

Sorry for the mistake.

When I see that name, I instantly know I will get no answers, no responses and never any truth .