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Guest 08-02-2012 11:58 AM

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eweissenbach: Coach I was raised with a father that had a John Wayne mentality so you can see what my expectations would be. This sniping, artful dodging, disinformation campaign and outright lying by Obama and his long list of syncophants (liberal media and Hollywood types, etc) is as "Popeye" says "all's I can stand".

I have enough Obama's definition of hope and his change is well "destructive" demoralizing and dishonest.

We are three years post recession and we have the worse record of an unrecovery in the history of this country. to further exacerbate the situation we have Obama telling us with a straight face that his plans are working. We have a guy who is trying to be Mr. Cool with the young set issuing popular directives that mean nothing and in many ways hurt this country just so he can get re-elected. a young set who voted for him in 2008 but now 4 years later are without jobs, hope and change that has left them poor. Obama owns the economy but he won't admit it. He will blame George W for an eternity. You know why? Because he was not reared with a father that had a John Wayne mentality.

Your father had a John Wayne mentality? That may not be what you really want to say. John Wayne was married 3 times and divorced twice. He had a penchant for the leading ladies.

John Wayne is always depicted as an American hero in the war movies. In fact, he got a deferment so he did not serve in WWII. The deferment was for being 34 years old. Heck, lots of guys enlisted over the age of 34. Other actors were in WWII like Jimmy Stewart and Clark Gable. Yes, John Wayne movies did get guys to enlist but he never served.[/QUOTE]

I think he meant John Wayne's CHARACTERS mentality.

Guest 08-02-2012 12:08 PM

Were Those Gaffes Made Now Or Then By Obama, Clinton And Kerry?
 
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QUOTE=Guest;532773]Do you care to post a link to support your claims?[/QUOTE]

Hi janmcn: Obama has criticized and continues to do so in his campaign concerning Mitt Romney so called faux pas of , "it is a deeply moving experience to be in Jerusalem , the capital of Israel".

Let's exam the facts. When addressing the American Israel Public Affairs Committee on June 4, 2008 as Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama said that "Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel and it must remain undivided."

Bill Clinton during his 1992 campaign said that he would "recognize Jerusalem as an undivided city , the eternal capital of Israel, and I believe in principle of moving our embassy to Jerusalem."

John Kerry during his 2004 campaign stated, "he has long advocted moving the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem, Israel's undisputed capital. And in 1999 he( John Kerry) signed a letter taking President Clinton to task for not moving the embassy."

Reporter David Harsanyi blogging at Human Events July 30 republished in WSJ
Notable & Quotable August 2

Guest 08-02-2012 12:36 PM

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Do you care to post a link to support your claims?

Hi janmcn: Obama has criticized and continues to do so in his campaign concerning Mitt Romney so called faux pas of , "it is a deeply moving experience to be in Jerusalem , the capital of Israel".

Let's exam the facts. When addressing the American Israel Public Affairs Committee on June 4, 2008 as Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama said that "Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel and it must remain undivided."

Bill Clinton during his 1992 campaign said that he would "recognize Jerusalem as an undivided city , the eternal capital of Israel, and I believe in principle of moving our embassy to Jerusalem."

John Kerry during his 2004 campaign stated, "he has long advocted moving the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem, Israel's undisputed capital. And in 1999 he( John Kerry) signed a letter taking President Clinton to task for not moving the embassy."

Reporter David Harsanyi blogging at Human Events July 30 republished in WSJ
Notable & Quotable August 2

These are campaign promises meant to get the Jewish vote. Never kept though because of how complex the Jerusalem issue is. Presidents Ronald Reagan, Johnson, Kennedy, Eisenhower, Nixon and both Bushs made the same decision to keep the diplomatic capital in Tel Aviv. I wonder why?

If you are looking for something other than a politician in Romney, I sincerely doubt if you will find anything. Unless, that is, the POTUS wants to start another war in the Mideast to go along with those of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Guest 08-02-2012 12:44 PM

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thank you, janmcn - i really enjoyed that today!

Guest 08-02-2012 01:05 PM

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President Obama visited Irael as candidate Obama in 2008. When he returns next year after winning reelection, Obama will not criticize the culture of the Palestinians because he knows it takes two to negotiate peace in the middle east.....something Mitt Romney never considered.

awe gee! i can't agree with your prediction. in order to go back - someone would have to invite him! and i can't even come up with a short list of who might do that!

here's a little history from the days before the senator became president [and there are lots of similar articles if you want to search out obama israel 2008]:

Barack Obama visits Israel - Telegraph
Barack Obama visits Israel
Senator Barack Obama has flown into Israel vowing that if he wins the presidential election he will work towards ending the Israeli-Palestinian conflict "from the minute I'm sworn into office".
...this sure makes it look like another campaign promise was broken! do you think it might be the reason that he has not been back there as president. and if he did get re-elected and went back, would it be to apologize? i think NOT!

Candidate Obama Also Called Jerusalem Israel
Candidate Obama Also Called Jerusalem Israel’s Capital, Then Backtracked
from the article:
1] "Any negotiated agreement between Israel and the Palestinian Authority, he [obama] said, “must preserve Israel’s identity as a Jewish state with secure, recognized, defensible borders. And Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel and it must remain undivided.”"
...he said, not knowing or disregarding the diplomatic relations dilemma this issue has been for years...or...spoken just like a candidate!
2] "“The whole world knows that holy Jerusalem was occupied in 1967 and we will not accept a Palestinian state without having Jerusalem as the capital of a Palestinian state,” P.A. chairman Mahmoud Abbas told reporters in Ramallah."
...the candidate sure didn't make mahmoud abbas happy - did he!
3] "Hours later, the senator for Illinois[obama] told CNN, “Well, obviously, it’s going to be up to the parties to negotiate a range of these issues. And Jerusalem will be part of those negotiations.” A spokesman for his campaign sought to explain that what Obama opposed was a return to a city divided by “barbed wire and checkpoints as it was in 1948-67.”"
...obama needed a spokesman way back then to tell us what the candidate REALLY meant! years later such backtracking would be referred to as a 'corey booker'!

Guest 08-02-2012 02:04 PM

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Your father had a John Wayne mentality? That may not be what you really want to say. John Wayne was married 3 times and divorced twice. He had a penchant for the leading ladies.

John Wayne is always depicted as an American hero in the war movies. In fact, he got a deferment so he did not serve in WWII. The deferment was for being 34 years old. Heck, lots of guys enlisted over the age of 34. Other actors were in WWII like Jimmy Stewart and Clark Gable. Yes, John Wayne movies did get guys to enlist but he never served.

I think he meant John Wayne's CHARACTERS mentality.[/QUOTE]

I am sure he meant the characters that Wayne played, too. I always enjoy a John Wayne movie. In fact, yesterday, TCM had 24 hours of John Wayne movies in their 31 days of Oscar winners. Today, it is Myrna Loy. Way before my time.

Guest 08-02-2012 02:31 PM

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Do you care to post a link to support your claims?

Do not need links...fairly common knowledge about all the promises made relative to health care which simply disappeared to the drug lobby.

unemployment was promised to be a major thrust of his administration; He is now talking about it for reelection benefits. I suppose it simply skipped his mind for three years.

His beautiful talk on reaching across the aisle, etc

His promises on tax fixes and he basically fired his own group to advise him on that.

His promises on transparency which have sort of been forgotten.

These do not need links and there are more if you are interested. He is spewing the same nonsense again.


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