Re: Moratorium on the Political Thread
 

No "poking fun" was intended in the concept of preserving free speech, including opinions expressed on this thread.* I was dead serious.* Let me be more clear, omitting any semblance of levity... Don't screww around with free speech. *

We already have too many folks running around complaining about being offended by this or that as their excuse to shut up anyone they don't agree with.* I hope that doesn't happen here.

Re: Moratorium on the Political Thread
 

The TOTV Political Forum is a free speech forum regarding any and all political banter. It does not give posters the right to abuse another, spew hatred and border on total unacceptability within the confines of decent behavior. In other words, say anything you want but keep it civil. Is that too hard to ask of adults. Is that screwing around with free speech as you so eloquently put it? Read the first 8 or 9 posts of this thread and tell me MEMBERS aren't concerned.

Re: Moratorium on the Political Thread
 

Johnny, please forgive me if I am putting my own meaning into your words, but I interpreted your call for a moritorium in this way.

By suggesting a moritorium on a Forum that had gotten so mean spirited, I felt you were requesting a return to civility among the posters, not calling for a suppression of the 1st Amendment, for which you fought. And I agreed with you.

Sort of like when a parent tells its children to play nice or the toy will be taken away. I've done that myself and my objective was never to take away the toy, but to remind the kids that playing nice was important.

I think sometimes we adults can get carried away in our passions just like kids.

Anyway, knowing what a patriot Johnny is I can't imagine his intention was to suppress freedom of speech.

Just my opinion, which thank goodness I have the right to express.

Re: Moratorium on the Political Thread
 

Thanks Susan, my meaning of a moratorium is the same as a "time out" for kids.
VK, I don't think we are wasting our time as our own Cassie states the forum helped her and gave her the incentive to vote. It is important to debate and get a further insight into the political process. You are right when you say minds have been made up for the most part and will not be changed. That is all part of the forum and the process. My intent is to stop the mean spiritness and baiting that goes on by a few.

Re: Moratorium on the Political Thread
 

Johnny, this is why the King Fu post is here. The Repub/Demo "debate????" has gotten so out of hand that we have selected King Fu to combat the ugliness. Childlike? Maybe..but it sure beats ugly.

Re: Moratorium on the Political Thread
 

Wow!* I certainly hope our Community Development Districts, local, county, state, and federal governments don't embrace the same paternalistic approach.* "Be quiet until we learn to say what other people want to hear."** :bow: :bow: :bow:* And make sure no one - not even the "tyranny of the majority" - is ever offended by either the form or substance of the comment.

By that standard, THIS thread needs to be deleted.

Re: Moratorium on the Political Thread
 

Little Woofer, It just never stays nice on the political thread. Further, as many of us have stated, you won't change anyone's mind. It then becomes a contest of my opinion is better than yours. Yuck.

Re: Moratorium on the Political Thread
 

Mucci you are out of bounds. All I and other members want to hear is civility. If you can't be civil to us, give up your membership.

Re: Moratorium on the Political Thread
 

JohnnyM and mucci, calm down , boys,
it's just *^%%$$ politics!!!!

Johnny, really not right, nor your place, to be advising folks to pass in their membership, is it? aren't you being a little tempermental, though you started this thread in good faith??

This is almost like the political threads, maybe it should be in that forum.

Relax , guys, life is short

Re: Moratorium on the Political Thread
 

Is "contemptuously eviserated" better?

Sam: I agree with civility, but not stifling the fee exchange of ideas under the banner of excessive sensitivity. woof

Re: Moratorium on the Political Thread
 

John, if a person is telling you he or she does not care about being civil then in my eyes they do no belong in a forum where everyone else does. I'm sorry if I offended anyone. Better yet I'll pass in mine. Personally, this forum has changed so much since I became a member, it's just not the same. If trying to be civil stymies someones freedom of speech, I don't belong here. I'm sorry Mucci.

Re: Moratorium on the Political Thread
 

JohnnyM

bud, I just don't read the political threads - period

My blood pressure has improved about 50 points since then.
It's just not worth it.

Re: Moratorium on the Political Thread
 

I think you should take this to the "political" forum.

Re: Moratorium on the Political Thread
 

Yipppeee!!!

I've noted that some forums have a topic called "Take It Outside." I guess our political forum is that place. :agree:

Re: Moratorium on the Political Thread
 

I am confused. So many say I never go there....or never read it....etc....yet this is where I am reading yours posts???? :dontknow: :dontknow:

Anyway, I do not agree will censorship or moratorium. Why should a perfectly good venue be discontinued because of a few? For the most part.....most give and take...agree to disagree....and that is as it should be. To penalize the many for the sake of the few is not a very democratic stance.

By it's very nature a political forum has built into it a bias. One should expect give and take on the threads/issues. When I spot a urinating contest I just breeze through or by it.

It's sorta one of those if you can't stand the heat don't go near the fire or the kitchen or how ever it is stated.

There will always be adversity in a political or religious discussion. But don't suppress the first amendment for the few that take it to an unacceptable level.

IMHO.

BTK

Re: Moratorium on the Political Thread
 

I think we should have a moratorium on the restaurant thread. I am trying to loose weight.