Re: Moratorium on the Political Thread
 

I don't agree with a moratorium.

Like it's been said it would probably just go somewhere else.

And what would be the fun in that.

Just keep all the JUNK in 1 place. That way we will know what to avoid or jump into.

I personally have not commented on the race one way or another but I HAVE HAD SOME FUN READING IT.

This morning I was listening to Senator's Bill Dodd & Fred Thompson on CNN.

I said to my wife, It's like reading the posts on TOTV.

So what I'm saying is what is being said is going to be said anyway.

This is why we have a secret ballot....... THANK GOD......... oops I probably offended an atheist

Re: Moratorium on the Political Thread
 

Just say....God or whatever or whoever....works well with everyone....

Re: Moratorium on the Political Thread
 

I have been gone for the last few days and even though the laptop ended up going along, I peeked in only a couple of times. But when that big announcement was made last week, I know that I flipped on the laptop when I returned to the hotel to see what was going on around here.

Ruckus? Donnybrook? Knock-Down-Drag-Out?

I really do not know and I did not read much of any of it. I just skimmed through a few things. But I wanted to know what the lay of the land was around here. Even though I already knew. I admit. And I admit that sometimes I just plain old gotta look. But if there was a memo saying that I had to look, I somehow missed it.

And maybe I did miss something really vile. I don't know.

But what I do know is that I think those of you who want the forum pulled have the very kindest of intentions. I really do think that. Really.

But I also think that pulling it points us toward a slippery slope. A really, really slippery slope.

And I also think that our admins are pretty darned savvy about pulling individual posts that go over the top. And I have noticed that this place tends to self correct overall.

This election will go down in history more than the rest. More people than ever will remember the losing candidates' names forever. More people than ever want and need to talk about it. As uncomfotable as that may get sometimes, it really is a good thing.

I also think that we know here at TOTV that we enter the Political Forum at our own risk. I know manners should be relatively minded, but that is far different from pulling an entire forum.

Remember those teachers who used that whole group punishment method. How did you like that?

Choosing whether or not to enter the Political Forum is a lot like choosing whether or not to bring up certain topics at an extended family dinner table. I know I make rules for myself where that's concerned. Thanksgiving Dinner comes to mind. I prefer to keep it the Hallmark version. But that's my choice. "Choice" is the operative word.

So my vote is cast for letting the admins do what they know so well how to do. And for taking a step back from the slippery slope of pulling political controversy all together. Even temporarily.

Ruckus? Donnybrook? Knock-Down-Drag-Out?

Hah!

Just wait until they start a Sports Forum.

And just so you know. Tomorrow when I am out and about, I will stop by the bookstore. It is the release date for "American Wife." I will buy it. Read it. And I will post in the Book Forum. Not the Political Forum. That is the right place for it. Really. That I do know. And that one is going to stir some real controversy from what I understand from the pre-pub stuff.

Boomer

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THEY DID.....I COULD PROBABLY POST ON THERE...I KNOW AS MUCH ABOUT SPORTS AS I DID ABOUT POLITICS A FEW MONTHS AGO....MAYBE I COULD LEARN ABOUT SPORTS NEXT!! ALTHOUGH I HAVE LOOKED AT A FEW THREADS AND IT SCARED ME ON THE FORUM....THE SPORTS THAT IS!!

;D

Re: Moratorium on the Political Thread
 

I'd rather have a moratorium on politics ,

maybe have a king for awhile,

King Fumar??

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I think Fumar has a campaign manager.... SAM! 040

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I will be accepting funds for his election to this post. Cash only please. You can give it to me at Crispers. Like most pols, I will be lining my pockets..Oops, I meant using this money for a good cause. crap :a20:

Uhoh :cop: :cop: :cop: :cop: :cop:
Therefore I vote not to put a moratorium on the political thread. Fu and I need the money.

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You are right as always CincyBoomerino. It was too much for me. I am toooooo thin skinned for all that drama. (Boomer there was gross exaggeration and shouting) But I am for the first amendment. YUP.

Re: Moratorium on the Political Thread
 

Well, well.* Once again, Chels, I agree wholeheartedly with you. :o ;D

As one who posts to the political thread and, quite frankly, am entertained by it, I support its' continued existence.* Putting a "moratorium" on it is like putting a moratorium on free speech.* Hey, Obama, you are prohibited from expressing yourself, oh, let's see, for 60 days!* Oh, McCain, you too.* But don't worry, it's only a "moratorium."

We are America because we don't do these sorts of things.* If there is no political thread, the opinions will pop out somewhere else on this forum.* At least now we can tell such commentators where to go* :cop: --- the "political thread."

See how the political thread has brought folks together? Chelsea and Little Woofer.

Re: Moratorium on the Political Thread
 

You can poke fun at the idea of a moratorium mucci, but at least I tried to do something. If posters to the Political Forum acted like adults in the first place, there would be no need to discuss a moratorium. There were plenty of members who have posted their negative feelings towards the operation of the Political thread. There is a lot of baiting going on within the posts, and by who knows who, meaning outsiders. Members feel it has cast a sour light on TOTV. I think their feelings should also be respected.

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No "poking fun" was intended in the concept of preserving free speech, including opinions expressed on this thread.* I was dead serious.* Let me be more clear, omitting any semblance of levity... Don't screww around with free speech. *

We already have too many folks running around complaining about being offended by this or that as their excuse to shut up anyone they don't agree with.* I hope that doesn't happen here.

Re: Moratorium on the Political Thread
 

The TOTV Political Forum is a free speech forum regarding any and all political banter. It does not give posters the right to abuse another, spew hatred and border on total unacceptability within the confines of decent behavior. In other words, say anything you want but keep it civil. Is that too hard to ask of adults. Is that screwing around with free speech as you so eloquently put it? Read the first 8 or 9 posts of this thread and tell me MEMBERS aren't concerned.

Re: Moratorium on the Political Thread
 

Johnny, please forgive me if I am putting my own meaning into your words, but I interpreted your call for a moritorium in this way.

By suggesting a moritorium on a Forum that had gotten so mean spirited, I felt you were requesting a return to civility among the posters, not calling for a suppression of the 1st Amendment, for which you fought. And I agreed with you.

Sort of like when a parent tells its children to play nice or the toy will be taken away. I've done that myself and my objective was never to take away the toy, but to remind the kids that playing nice was important.

I think sometimes we adults can get carried away in our passions just like kids.

Anyway, knowing what a patriot Johnny is I can't imagine his intention was to suppress freedom of speech.

Just my opinion, which thank goodness I have the right to express.

Re: Moratorium on the Political Thread
 

Thanks Susan, my meaning of a moratorium is the same as a "time out" for kids.
VK, I don't think we are wasting our time as our own Cassie states the forum helped her and gave her the incentive to vote. It is important to debate and get a further insight into the political process. You are right when you say minds have been made up for the most part and will not be changed. That is all part of the forum and the process. My intent is to stop the mean spiritness and baiting that goes on by a few.

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Johnny, this is why the King Fu post is here. The Repub/Demo "debate????" has gotten so out of hand that we have selected King Fu to combat the ugliness. Childlike? Maybe..but it sure beats ugly.