First, the debate will be interesting but certainly without substance for sure.

But back on topic,......

"She has received her worst favorability rating ever. She has lost ground on Republicans' three strongest candidates. And she is perceived to be about as honest and trustworthy as Donald Trump."

Those are some of the troubling numbers for former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in a new poll released Thursday by Quinnipiac University.


Read more: Hillary Clinton poll: Bad general election news - Business Insider

And of course.....

"Hillary Clinton’s recent speech in which she decried “quarterly capitalism” has predictably generated a great deal of commentary. With good reason.

Not only is “quarterly capitalism” a myth of the highest order, Clinton’s solution to what is not a problem would bring great harm to the economy. Missed by Clinton is the basic economic truism learned the hard way by European countries that you can’t hire people easily if you can’t easily fire them. As readers will soon see, the hiring analogy is apt."


Memo To Hillary Clinton: You Can't Hire People If You Can't Fire Them - Forbes

Good post :thumbup::thumbup:

I believe that it is premature to count the polls regarding the general election, especially before any debates. Once we have debates, then the point spread will be greater, separating the GOP contenders. By that time, I am pretty sure that Clinton's popularity will have fallen substantially. Biden's poll numbers are already competitive with Clinton's so we don't yet know where this is going. Hilary seems to assume she already has the nomination and won the election. Her arrogance may be her undoing. I don't even think Sanders is going to be a factor in the primary IF Biden throws his hat in.
I still think that any of the GOP candidates could beat Hillary if she gets the nomination. I really think that Biden would be harder to beat, as ridiculous as that sounds right now. Personally, out of all the possibles, if any Democrat has to win the general election I would rather it be Biden than Hillary or Bernie. At least Biden has a reputation from congress at working across the aisle. Democrat party leaders may very well get to the point where they feel that Hillary is a liability and dump her. It will be a hard decision because she is female and they really would like to exploit that angle. Hillary really has a lot of bailing to do to keep her ship afloat. Wonder why she is waiting so long. Maybe she knows that she doesn't have any answers to the questions that the media wants to ask. Or, she is hoping that she can keep the evidence of her criminal activity hidden.

Not a good post.....A GREAT, WELL THOUGHT OUT, POST, and in my opinion accurate assessment

That's a big negatory, good buddy. At this point in time, way too early, Sec. Clinton would win against any Republican candidate.

Look at the Democrat demographics vs the Republican demographics and you will see it is a win for Democrats. The Republicans are to divided against themselves and also against the demographic of the Democrats. Like it or not, those Hispanics, blacks, other minorities, poor people, legal immigrants, young people, and women do count a lot. Pandering to them by Democrats creates a win for Democrats. Voting against their programs by Republicans creates more animosity toward Republicans by those demographic groups and thus almost guarantees a Democrat win for 2012 presidency - no matter who the Democrat nominee is.

Sadly some good points.

Sigh as I say those magic words this poster used and used accurately....

PANDERING

Sad to see that the good of the country comes AFTER THE POLITICS.

Big sigh again...so sad

Assuming you meant to say 2016, although the exact same thing could have been said in 2012. When your opponents are imploding, step out of their way.

Actually, you are mistaken. If the election was today (and it isn't) then ALL the Republicans would be voting for a single Republican candidate. And two important parts that you are not considering is that there will be a minute black turn out compared to what Obama drew. Second is, that you forget that she would not get the Independent vote she needs to win today. I also believe that Hillary would not get as many female voters to turn out for HER as she might have gotten a year or two or three ago. It seems that the closer we get to the elections, the less support she is getting. Her favorability is fading, fading, fading. It seems that you are already giving her the election, just as she arrogantly assumes that she has it in the bag. A lot of factors can change. Biden might enter the race. She might go to jail (not likely).

Predicting Hillary's win this early is way too premature. I will predict that in about two weeks, it will be predicted that she would ether tie or lose to one of the Republicans. Then her party leaders will do a reassessment and consider dropping her for another Democrat, possibly Biden. And that won't bother me at all. Not that I would welcome his winning the election, but he would be better than what we have in there now and much better than Hillary.

If you go back to my post, I was speaking of the demographics of both parties. The black vote has seen the unfavorable writings and actions taken to them by Republicans in Congress. They will turn out for a Democrat nominee. Same for the poor people, the legal immigrants, young voters, and a high percentage of women voters. These go Democrat. Not necessarily talking Hillary but Democrat!

These demographics do not want their government free stuff to stop. They will vote en masse and they vote Democrat. Be it Clinton, Sanders, Biden, or whomever the Democrat nominee is: they win.

I am still here. I read the guidelines before I started posting. "No personal attacks." "conduct unbecoming a TOTV poster".

Let's see. I been called a racist numerous times. I have also been called a troll, moron, idiot, cry baby, and I am sure many other names. Do you actually know what "no personal attacks" means? You probably do, but don't think that it applies to you.

I have no problem at all going to administrators of the board, and showing them exactly what I did, and WHY. I will go over with them the history of my posts, and what the responses were from other posters here. I asked what appeared to be two reasonable Republican posters, and asked them to put a lid on name callers, that add nothing to this forum. There wasn't a peep from these two.

As far as the name callers are concerned, you got what was coming to you. If the administrators are honest, and suspend me for my behavior, they will have to suspend 95% of the Republicans here for the same behavior. The easiest person in the world to fool is yourself. Denying what you did wasn't the cause of the backlash is fooling yourself into believing that you have done nothing wrong.

Do what you do best ignore this post, because it hits directly at home.

If you are iwning up to the pornographic iteration in an earlier post....you are working way too hard to justify what is just out and out wrong in a public forum.

We all understand why some have to do real name calling and making crude remarks about the person, their background, party, religion or anything else some of you spew all over. We tolerate/ignore that.

Bto stoop so low as to use the type language you did in that post is just plain crude behavior. If the administrations does not take such behavior to task then I will be shocked.

This is not what we opted in for and save the BS about getting what we get when we opt in. You know damn well you crossed the line and should man up and volunteer to get off the forum for unwarranted behavior.

Here is a partial list of what we (the collective we) are called regularly on this forum. I may have just scratched the surface and maybe it can be expanded on the Just For Fun section

Ignorant troll socialist libtard teabag idiot lunatic wingnut moron racist sexist stupid regressive .........

Perhaps a Communication 101 class is needed. Intelligent posts get dumbed down by this rhetoric and rendered ineffectual. What happens then is standards are lowered to the point that shock value is all that's left.

And of course you and whomever WE is that you refer to always post with links, facts to support your case etc.

And since yours is one whose name always show for a bit, let me tell you something. I know for a fact that the GUEST function has allowed "cover" for many left leaning folks to post their true feelings without the PM criticism, etc (not referring to you specifically, but think you might understands)

Of course both sides do it. I have been a racist, bigot, neo whatever, Tea ******, retard, nut job, etc and those are just aimed at me. In addition, most conservatives are really ripped on your (again using the collective as you did with WE) alternate site of Topix. Some names on there cannot, or should not be repeated.

This thread had some responsible posts, and then you and maybe a few others started with a series of simply name calling without even an attempt at discussion.

I share your concern with the name calling, but PLEASE SPARE me the "poor me" thing...it makes you look very silly. You KNOW for sure some who do it routinely thus your innocence and hurt feelings do not register. Fact is I have seen you simply jump on with a few little one liners. If I sound a bit peeved at your holier than thou post that is why....I know you do it.

It was hardly a "poor me" post. Just pontificating. Never been on Topix or know anything about it so your reference should have been the collective our. And I know that my name shows up but who cares? If I go to my Galaxy Note 4 running Lollipop 5.0.1 poster's names show up under my notifications screen. The Guest thing only works selectively. Once again, who cares? Some of the most adamant posters here are much more polite and contributory on the other side.

Post# 118 - I totally agree with most of the things that you said. The "poor me" doesn't apply. That seems to imply that I feel sorry for myself, which I don't. As far as silly is concerned, it would be silly to expect some people will ever change here. I guess, name calling is to divert attention away from a post that makes sense, but doesn't fit your way of thinking. You can't be wrong; therefore, the other person is a moron or in my world a right wing nut(lol).

As for obscenity, I didn't use any language that would get bleeped out on TV. There are obviously children on TV, which would probably laugh at the things I posted. Adults here are so thinned skinned that making a joke about the size of their canole offends them. That's funny.

I grew up in a racially balanced working class neighborhood. It was half Irish, and half Italian. Making fun of each other's nationality was a way of life from the age of 5 years on. Why would I get offended at the name calling?

I am a little upset at you, because you took the words right out of my mouth. "holier that thou". You can't even imagine how many times I almost threw that out there.

One liners! When in Rome do like the Romans.

So, there is no confusion here are my posts on this thread 13, 14, 22, 34, 37, 41, 44, 50, 57, 71 and 76. The ones that are out of line are 81, 89, 90, and 94. I made several after that starting with asking for the administrator's email address. I'll get the number, after I post this. If I go back, I am afraid I will have to type this post over again.