The last six years must feel like you are serving a sentence.

Not sure what context you want...very simply using Wiki, and of course that will not work for you so I strongly suggest reading one of the number of books about here, or just read history.


First, she was an anarchist.....

" Sanger, collaborating with anarchist friends, popularized the term "birth control" as a more candid alternative to euphemisms such as "family limitation"[ as "family limitation"[

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Sanger

I have no doubt her heart was true and her purpose well intended but to deny her politics is silly.

Then I suggest you do more reading and I think you will find her attitude to minorities and those she considered second class citizens, like aborigines, was demeaning. This is not made up.

I then remind you that she was greatly admired and idolized by one Hillary Clinton. Ms Clinton does make a habit of admiring anarchists (see Sanger, Alinsky a a number of others)

Actually, the last six years have been quite an education for me, and a warning as to "what can happen"

When our President was elected, I worried not that much. I had confidence in what our founding fathers had put together. Three branches of government with mant checks and balances.

I never in my wildest dreams considered how a President and a leader of the senate could take over the country. See how the Affordable Care Act was ramrod dead through, manipulating the congress to pass costly and far reaching legislation without consultation, not only with the opposition, but with his own party and to pass it without reading.

I never even considered his race to be a factor, nor felt he would use the bully pulpit to support criminal activity in the name of racial justice. To ignore the law and make Herod of criminals, along with diminishing respect for those who are sworn to uphold the law he ignores.

These are two huge social impacts I could not imagine, but am certainly aware of now.

I read of his training and background but worried not, until he and Harry Reid showed us how to manipulate the congress in unintended ways.

I never felt any President would simply ignore the law of the land. I felt he would need to at least speak to congress on laws, but it appears that you do not need to do that.

While I knew he was a great politician, so many great politicians before him, left that part behind them and became statesman. He has shown that in your face pure politics can be done,at a severe price but it can be done.

No, the last six years have shown me that perhaps the background is important and that trusting someone who "sells"hope can turn out so wrong.

Good post

Excellent

Nope, I'm doing great, in spite of liberal tyranny. And I can honestly say that not one thing this administration has done in the past 5+ years is responsible for it. How about you? :popcorn:

I made it through Carter, and I made it through W. So I guess I could say that I'm feelin alright. Thanks.

At the age of most posters on here, I can see that,

It is your children and grandchildren that are and have been "thrown under the bus" both in terms of law and economics.

Carter and Bush made mistakes that Presidents make, albeit depending on how you feel, relatively worse.

President Obama has struck at the very fiber of the country, the very thing that ALL parties should honor....the rule of law....the rule of advise and consent.

THAT is not going to go away quickly......

Adding to that, he has sadly, NOT helped the racial divide nor the economic divide. He has, in fact, set both of those problems back many many years.

Making it through or surviving one president or another is poetic commentary (not intended to be negative).

To me the issue is the state of the country as a result of a given president. And for that Obama has done more harm to this country than any president in modern times.

Ignores the law of the land and the constitution to further his agenda.
Has created racial havoc and set back the gains against racism many, many years.
He has emasulated the US military.
He has made the USA a laughing matter in the rest of the world.
He has allowed the immigration sunami to grow and severly burden our economy.
He has made deals with the enemies of the USA to further his agenda.
He has no concept of leadership and has abandoned the frontline leadership of the military.

He is a phony in your face, egomaniac racist of the highest order.

Margaret Sanger died in 1966. Does anyone on this forum believe that attitudes toward birth control have changed in the past 50 years.

Of course it has changed, but to hold up Planned Parenthood as the goodness of all goodness is just plain silly when it was founded, yes..I agree to help many women, but founded in racism and belittling of those less forunate.

To then after all the platitudes thrown their way when those videos show clearly and I am speaking of the unvarnished videos, that the organization feels, as so many seem to feel, above the law. How callous and uncaring for human life they have become.

To know the statistics and to know that one of Sanger's goals was to PREVENT unwanted pregnancies and not kill unborn for the reason it is being done today. She was an anarchist with racial attitude but I think she seriously wanted to help those who find themselves in this situation.

I DO NOT THINK her intent was to foster free sex, in fact she wanted to have a rule for the number of babies you could have when married, nor was it to make some cash on the part of those killed.

BUT then to hear the hypocrisy of those who "fight" for civil rights, who fight against those who feel our society is flawed and this surge in abortions is a result of it, talk as if the killing of black babies was not overwhelming, talk as if Sanger was some kind of saint (see Hilary Clinton comments). For those same folks who bring up PAST AND GONE eras of severe racism and ignore or pretend this organization is not implicit in the same things TODAY, is just sheer hypocrisy.

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When 93% of the abortions are due to inconvenience, not necessity then that's immoral by anyone's standards. Less than 1% are done because of medical, rape or incest. Maybe we need to readdress the difficulty of adoption procedures and we could give the lazy mothers-to-be another option.

But, the issue today is the abhorrent issue of selling human body parts. By law we can't do anything about stopping the abortions, but we can stop the disgusting selling of body parts. Next thing you know, women will be getting paid to get pregnant in order to abort so that someone can have their baby for body parts. That saves the lazy ones that sell their newly born babies, the time of the pregnancy.

There are 10 pages with 93 posts concerning this topic it should be clear to anyone by now that those defending Planned Parenthood are doing so primarily because if they are truthful about Planned Parenthood's major breach of medical ethics then they know it will be the beginning of the end to abortion...and that frightens liberals a lot. what Planned Parenthood did and are probably still doing should be investigated for its criminality but it won't because liberals with assist from the liberal media circle their wagons to protect bad actors, and bad behavior not only continues but is encouraged...and so America's march toward total moral anarchy continues.

Personal Best Regards:

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And in those 10 pages and 93 posts, those bashing Planned Parenthood are just 4 neo-conservative posters talking back and forth while gathering as many lies and half truths from Breibart, Live Action, and other wackos.

If you would like to go back to the rat poison, coat hanger, and motel rooms before legal abortions in clean safe clinics, there is something wrong with you.

1. Please allow us how you know who posters are in order to make your accusation

2. Please copy and paste or reference by post numbers the lies being told.

Thank you.

Serious allegations and accusations.

Hope you are able to back them up as challenged.

I'm pretty sure that you are wrong about your assumption of only 4.

What Planned Parenthood is doing is allowed by a law passed by the senate in 1993 by an overwhelming majority of 97-3. It will be interesting to see tomorrow how Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell condemns this law which he voted for in 1993 and puts a stand-alone bill on the floor of the senate which will strip almost three million people of their healthcare. Stay tuned.

We will see when the accuser backs up both of his accusations and hopefully he/she will do that.

Not cool to simply make serious charges.

First point...

"In 1993, a law pertaining to federally funded NIH research was enacted that allows donation of fetal tissue from induced abortions if certain criteria are met. These include that the woman donating is not aware of the recipients of the tissue, and that the abortion timing, procedures or method itself would not be altered for the sole purpose of obtaining the tissue."

I am not a doctor nor any kind of expert but after reviewing the law and then the videos hearing how they will adjust the operation when doing the abortion to maintain certain tissues...how do you resolve that with "and that the abortion timing, procedures or method itself would not be altered for the sole purpose of obtaining the tissue."[/B]

THAT alone seems to be a violation.

and secondly.....

I am not hearing, but can stand corrected, ANY MOVEMENT TO REMOVE HEALTHCARE from anyone. Only that the law be upheld reading abortions and that funding be stopped until something is done.

Serious charges??? Get real. If you can prove that it is not 4, do so. If you cannot prove it - you are wrong. I see no sense in trying to satisfy a neo-conservative.

Now, as the real issue - do you want to see abortions made illegal in the US so that they would be done like in the pre-legal times in unsanitary conditions where the mother was likely to have massive infections, etc?

That is the real issue and not the number of posters talking among themselves. Grow up and make the forum what it is supposed to be.

Senate to Vote as Soon as Monday on Defunding Planned Parenthood - WSJ

The vote tomorrow is to defund Planned Parenthood. If PP is forced to close because of lack of funding, millions of people will lost their health care.

First, I then assume that the accusation, not supported, of lying is ok with you ?

And I heard nothing from anyone to support your statement about the pre legal times...like with Iran...it is this deal or war.....no, theire is a law...why should they not be called to obey it ? and remember this is not this organizations first rodeo.

Slavery was backed up by constitutional law also, until someone changed it. I bet a change will be easier to make once it is revealed how many black unborn children are murdered every year. Would you like to put a wager on it?

Not according to PP. According to them, the gov subsidy is only a portion of their funding. Millions people lost their health insurance due to Obamacare also. But, supposedly EVERYONE has insurance now, or they have to pay a fine.
Do I sympathize with the PP criminals? I don't think so. They refuse to quit doing abortions in order to keep gov funding. On top of that they sell the body parts!! Sick. UN-American! Disgusting! Criminal!

Exactly. With liberals it is always one extreme or another. And yet, they always scream about compromise. It is obvious that they don't know the definition of the word. We can thank the Pelosi, Reid and Obama radicals for that. Too bad they weren't aborted.

You make an accusation that there are only four(4) posters on here and then when someone disagrees, you tell them to prove it? Are you kidding? That is juvenile. That's like saying "the sky is green, prove it's not." You do realize how silly that is, right?

The real issue is that the new law has allowed the abortion business to grow way, WAY beyond the intended safe abortion for the few who pursued it.

It is a matter of fact matter of convenience including the discrimination of aborting depending whether the fetus is male or female.

It has become the back stop birth control method that Planned Parenthood, federally funded has exploited to being not only unlawful but immoral.

So go stick up for those who prior to the law now be treated safely and for the other 80% that are using that same law for convenience and butchering.....you should be as outraged as the rest of us......you can only make that distinction if you are capable of setting your politics aside and search your moral ethical side.

What's that got to do with selling body parts? How about I counter that with saying you hate children because you want to murder them? That is the same extreme talk that comes from stupid loonie like Pelosi and Reid, not mention the liar-in-chief. Defunding PP would not ban abortions. Do you think they are the only baby killers in the market?

Would you mind referencing that law that was passed in 1993 that legalized selling aborted baby parts. I would like to read it before contacting my representatives. Thank you.

Stupid loonie and liar- in chief. Too much talk radio.

ne·o·con·serv·a·tive
ˌnēōkənˈsərvədiv/
adjective
adjective: neoconservative; adjective: neo-conservative

1. relating to or denoting a return to a modified form of a traditional viewpoint, in particular a political ideology characterized by an emphasis on free-market capitalism and an interventionist foreign policy.

noun
noun: neoconservative; plural noun: neoconservatives; noun: neo-conservative; plural noun: neo-conservatives

1. a person with neoconservative views.

Did you intend the label as a slur?

Your smart and infantile remark means that you agree with allowing them to break the law ? You agree that people on here are lying about Planned Parenthood but cannot or will not bring any validation to that accusation ? You agree that the claim of only 4 people posting on here but disavow anyway you could know that ?

Not sure how adults revert back to that grade school talk but guess it is in lieu of having NOTHING else to offer that even gets close to the subject matter.

WOW,,,,

LIAR....4 POSING AS ?....NEO CONSERVATIVE....LOONIE...LIAR IN CHIEF...

Conversation is certainly high brow

Never listen to talk radio. Don't listen to radio, period.

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