Originally Posted by Guest

I'm not saying the WWII vets didn't suffer...but they COULD function in society where a LOT of Vietnam vets and on...can't. They become drug addled, homeless...and fail.

I posit it's because of the helplessness they feel when their hands are tied behind their backs and they're sent out as targets.

By civilians in D.C. NOT by the Military leaders that should have been running the war.

The only way to deal with the enemy is HARSHLY. You try to negotiate, and then when that fails, you annihilate them. Do that with a couple of tyrants and you gain their respect and they settle down. Their civil rights are not our concern. Let the missionaries deal with that. Their laws are theirs and ours are ours.

Before deciding on war, the question to be asked and answered is "how do you want this to end"? If there is any hesitation for anything less than winning, well the we have some leaders that are not on board. Hint: "leading from behind" is not a good philosophy when it comes to waging war. War is nasty but subjugation by an enemy hell

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Originally Posted by Guest

You are confusing deficiet spending and making weapons. It is the deficiet spending that stimulates the economy, until it collapses of course. Increasing welfare does exact same thing. You are correct that war is not a good thing.

So we were in the worst depression in our history with the future not looking too good. We got into WWII and the economy turned around and we haven't had anything like the great depression since. We've had a few recessions that were short lived and mild compared to what happened in the 30's.

How is it that this deficit spending was so bad? How is it that it never really collapsed?

I'm not a fan of deficit spending but it can be made up for in future years, especially if it helps the overall economy to grow.

The problem that we have in this country is wasteful deficit spending year after year after year.

Originally Posted by Guest

So we were in the worst depression in our history with the future not looking too good. We got into WWII and the economy turned around and we haven't had anything like the great depression since. We've had a few recessions that were short lived and mild compared to what happened in the 30's.

How is it that this deficit spending was so bad? How is it that it never really collapsed?

I'm not a fan of deficit spending but it can be made up for in future years, especially if it helps the overall economy to grow.

The problem that we have in this country is wasteful deficit spending year after year after year.

As long as EVERYONE plays along...it could go on a long long time. Everyone thought owing $ millions was unsustainable...then we thought owing $ billions was unsustainable....now we think owing $ trillions is unsustainable. Where IS the limit? IS there a limit IF everyone keeps playing?

Am I to understand from some of the posts in this thread that a major purpose of sending our citizens off to fight and die, and take the lives of citizens elsewhere in doing so it to stimulate the economy? Frankly, I've always suspected that to be true, and count me out of supporting that.

Originally Posted by Guest

Am I to understand from some of the posts in this thread that a major purpose of sending our citizens off to fight and die, and take the lives of citizens elsewhere in doing so it to stimulate the economy? Frankly, I've always suspected that to be true, and count me out of supporting that.

NO, we don't do it FOR the economy. It just happens that war has stimulated the economy in the past.

Originally Posted by Guest

Am I to understand from some of the posts in this thread that a major purpose of sending our citizens off to fight and die, and take the lives of citizens elsewhere in doing so it to stimulate the economy? Frankly, I've always suspected that to be true, and count me out of supporting that.

Uh...yes. It's a QUICK way to bring unemployment down permanently...as tens of thousands march off to die. It also gives the bankers an opportunity to "lend"..."money"...to the government so it can buy stuff...which puts people to work.

Originally Posted by Guest

NO, we don't do it FOR the economy. It just happens that war has stimulated the economy in the past.

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Originally Posted by Guest

The concept on it's own is absurd. Military spending creates jobs.

World War II is what got us out of the depression. When weapons, parts, uniforms, food and equipment were needed millions of workers were suddenly employed to manufacture them. Civilian support employees were needed in communications and several other areas.

I'm not saying that war is a good thing, but it does have a positive effect on an economy.

Carl Marks in an essay said that a capitalistic economy needs a war every 20 years to keep the economy going.

The US currently spends more on our military then the entire rest of the world does.

Our own separation from England in the American Revolution can be viewed as a revolt against taxation.
That taxation was caused by the tremendous military expense of the English

Our military spending is MOSTLY domestic. I seem to recall reading the canon on our Abrams tank is made in germany.
We just sold a few billion to Saudi Arabia.

It is interesting that most every state in the union has military spending. That is not a coincidence. Any congress member voting against military spending is costing some potential voters.

It is not all waste as far as non-war use. The internet was originally for the military, gps was for the military, communication satellites are mostly paid for by the military,
digital photography was invented for the military.

Cyber attack scares us, or should scare us because we are vulnerable of a disabling of our entire military and economy by a cyber attack. An atomic bomb would disable all of our electronics. For back up, we have very little. We have paperless almost everything

I HAVE NO ANSWERS-ONLY QUESTIONS

Originally Posted by Guest

Carl Marks in an essay said that a capitalistic economy needs a war every 20 years to keep the economy going.

The US currently spends more on our military then the entire rest of the world does.

Our own separation from England in the American Revolution can be viewed as a revolt against taxation.
That taxation was caused by the tremendous military expense of the English

Our military spending is MOSTLY domestic. I seem to recall reading the canon on our Abrams tank is made in germany.
We just sold a few billion to Saudi Arabia.

It is interesting that most every state in the union has military spending. That is not a coincidence. Any congress member voting against military spending is costing some potential voters.

It is not all waste as far as non-war use. The internet was originally for the military, gps was for the military, communication satellites are mostly paid for by the military,
digital photography was invented for the military.

Cyber attack scares us, or should scare us because we are vulnerable of a disabling of our entire military and economy by a cyber attack. An atomic bomb would disable all of our electronics. For back up, we have very little. We have paperless almost everything

I HAVE NO ANSWERS-ONLY QUESTIONS

Your last para is interesting.

Our President refuses to even acknowledge the possibility of cyber threat if it might impede his political escapades, thus how can our country face the threat ?

He refuses to accept what Russia is doing world wide....why ?

Originally Posted by Guest

Your last para is interesting.

Our President refuses to even acknowledge the possibility of cyber threat if it might impede his political escapades, thus how can our country face the threat ?

He refuses to accept what Russia is doing world wide....why ?

Why would you suggest such an idiotic question? YOu are entitled to your opinion, even flawed, but to make blanket statements that you have no iota of knowledge about, is stupid. If you would read something other than your progressive news via Huffington Pravda, maybe you would get some of Trump's statements in their entirety instead of lies from the left. Never mind, I almost forgot who you are. I forgot about your wasted vote.

Originally Posted by suesiegel

Carl Marks in an essay said that a capitalistic economy needs a war every 20 years to keep the economy going.

The US currently spends more on our military then the entire rest of the world does.

Our own separation from England in the American Revolution can be viewed as a revolt against taxation.
That taxation was caused by the tremendous military expense of the English

Our military spending is MOSTLY domestic. I seem to recall reading the canon on our Abrams tank is made in germany.
We just sold a few billion to Saudi Arabia.

It is interesting that most every state in the union has military spending. That is not a coincidence. Any congress member voting against military spending is costing some potential voters.

It is not all waste as far as non-war use. The internet was originally for the military, gps was for the military, communication satellites are mostly paid for by the military,
digital photography was invented for the military.

Cyber attack scares us, or should scare us because we are vulnerable of a disabling of our entire military and economy by a cyber attack. An atomic bomb would disable all of our electronics. For back up, we have very little. We have paperless almost everything

I HAVE NO ANSWERS-ONLY QUESTIONS

Carl Marks?


And you really think anyone should take you seriously?



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Originally Posted by Guest

Carl Marks?


And you really think anyone should take you seriously?



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I would think that you libtards would take a fellow socialist, Marks seriously.

Seriously? You are asking someone that question? ....

Originally Posted by MOCPD

I would think that you libtards would take a fellow socialist, Marks seriously.

Seriously? You are asking someone that question?

Another idiot who hasn't figured it out yet.


Any more of you right-wing nutjobs...wanna try?



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