Notre Dame graduates walk out on Mike Pence commencement speech

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Old 05-21-2017, 07:45 AM
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No, well trained little puppets would just go long with anything set before them.

These students obviously went to college in order to think for themselves.

Having a lap dog like Pence or an uneducated person like DeVos give commencement addresses is ridiculous. Graduating students should not be subject to these political flunkies.
Sandy - It appears it has been a while since you have been on a campus...I have spent the last 7 years visiting 2 different campuses, in 2 different regions, for the parent events and have heard first hand of the environment on campus...

The colleges are liberal heavens, the professors are attempting to brainwash the students at every chance they get in class. If the student displays agreement with the ideas presented, all is good. If the student disagrees or challenges the ideas presented, they are warned to not be disruptive. The kids are paying for the class, the teacher is spending more time brainwashing than educating, if they complain about the lack of focus on studies they are silenced. Think about the abuse of power!

The majority of millennials are not motivated enough to think for themselves. Most of the male millennials have their mother doing everything for them, or they are getting an allowance so they can pay people to do everything for them. Most of the female millennials are too busy posting selfies and / or attending social events (where they can be seen) to think for themselves.

"Lap dog" and "uneducated", are you sure?? Did you consider Joe Biden a lap dog? No, he was part of an administration and he had the same goals as Obamma (Pence is part of an administration)...Do you think DeVos is "uneducated" because she attended Calvin College? Did she need to play basketball at the University of Chicago to be considered "educated"?

"Political Flunkies"? Vice President and Secretary of Education are fairly high political achievements. Did you have an issue with Obamma and his administration giving commencement speeches?? It seems you are unable to look past their party affiliation to give them the credit they have earned...the liberal armies on campus booed someone because their political beliefs are not the same as their professors and it brought them media ATTENTION.

You are just another "Negative Nancy" on here. Nothing positive to say, just bitch whine bitch.

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Good for them! TOMORROW 5/21 Sunday.
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Sandy - It appears it has been a while since you have been on a campus...I have spent the last 7 years visiting 2 different campuses, in 2 different regions, for the parent events and have heard first hand of the environment on campus...

The colleges are liberal heavens, the professors are attempting to brainwash the students at every chance they get in class. If the student displays agreement with the ideas presented, all is good. If the student disagrees or challenges the ideas presented, they are warned to not be disruptive. The kids are paying for the class, the teacher is spending more time brainwashing than educating, if they complain about the lack of focus on studies they are silenced. Think about the abuse of power!

The majority of millennials are not motivated enough to think for themselves. Most of the male millennials have their mother doing everything for them, or they are getting an allowance so they can pay people to do everything for them. Most of the female millennials are too busy posting selfies and / or attending social events (where they can be seen) to think for themselves.

"Lap dog" and "uneducated", are you sure?? Did you consider Joe Biden a lap dog? No, he was part of an administration and he had the same goals as Obamma (Pence is part of an administration)...Do you think DeVos is "uneducated" because she attended Calvin College? Did she need to play basketball at the University of Chicago to be considered "educated"?

"Political Flunkies"? Vice President and Secretary of Education are fairly high political achievements. Did you have an issue with Obamma and his administration giving commencement speeches?? It seems you are unable to look past their party affiliation to give them the credit they have earned...the liberal armies on campus booed someone because their political beliefs are not the same as their professors and it brought them media ATTENTION.

You are just another "Negative Nancy" on here. Nothing positive to say, just bitch whine bitch.
Dirtbanker, you are wrong, as usual. Betsy DeVos is totally unqualified for Sec of Education. She got that because of political donations.

The professors you are bashing are the offspring of our generation. Didn't you teach them right? I went to college to learn to think for myself. The kids in college think for themselves and get challenged by professors. That is good.

Negative Nancy? I don't think so. Combat disabled Vietnam vet. Progressive thinking also.
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Old 05-21-2017, 08:59 AM
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No, well trained little puppets would just go long with anything set before them.

These students obviously went to college in order to think for themselves.

Having a lap dog like Pence or an uneducated person like DeVos give commencement addresses is ridiculous. Graduating students should not be subject to these political flunkies.
I am an unapologetic liberal. This kind of post does not help our side although I understand where the motivation to says these things comes from. And if enough Trump administration representatives get booed and walked out on, then perhaps college administrators will stop inviting such persons to give commencement speeches.

Those decrying the actions of the students are failing to understand what the graduation ceremony represents. It is a celebration of the students' accomplishment. The speaker is there to add to the celebration, not detract from it. He, or she, is a guest of the institution but should be someone who is a pleasant addition. The graduation ceremony is not a learning experience. It is not to get another view of our culture or our politics. It is for fun. And being forced to listen to someone who represents the policies of the Trump administration is the opposite of celebratory for most young people and most college educated people.

You pick your best friend to toast you at your wedding, reminding you of past fun times and giving you encouragement for your bright future, not someone who bullied you in high school.
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Old 05-21-2017, 09:04 AM
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Dirtbanker, you are wrong, as usual. Betsy DeVos is totally unqualified for Sec of Education. She got that because of political donations.

The professors you are bashing are the offspring of our generation. Didn't you teach them right? I went to college to learn to think for myself. The kids in college think for themselves and get challenged by professors. That is good.

Negative Nancy? I don't think so. Combat disabled Vietnam vet. Progressive thinking also.
That's how "government" works..."government" is a facade the wealthy/powerful set up to benefit themselves and the corporations they run. Many...all?...high level positions in government are either bought or assigned...depending on their importance to "the system". High ups in government become high ups in business and vice versa. Even the "elected" positions are a fraud, are fixed from the start. Whom did you "elect"? Those who were PLACED in front of you. To the "system", for those in charge who owned them all...it didn't matter WHICH of "their guys" we chose...they ALL work for them.

Why do you think Trump is backpedaling now? He's TOLD what to do.

We did a horrible thing...we created a gender who collectively suffer from delusion...the delusion that they are equals to men. We created a race/races who suffer from the same delusion...the delusion that they are equal to white people. THAT is where we failed...everyone should NOT get a trophy...maybe next time they'll try just a little harder...and IMPROVE. That's what affirmative action and quotas did...it DESTROYED the motivation to improve. America has languished, it's gone from #1 to #25. We are literally devolving socially as we devolve into a 3rd world majority. White people keep/kept thing afloat...we are sinking because too many minorities are trying to climb aboard...when the number reaches a tipping point...the ship WILL founder...taking us all with it. Times WILL get very ugly. This time ISN'T different...it's how it ALWAYS ends.

You're "progressive"...meaning socialist, communist, we ALL share and share alike, everyone has equal worth...because you're a woman. MOST liberals are women and MOST "conservatives" are men. It's our brains...we DO have different wiring...we DO think VERY differently.
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I am an unapologetic liberal. This kind of post does not help our side although I understand where the motivation to says these things comes from. And if enough Trump administration representatives get booed and walked out on, then perhaps college administrators will stop inviting such persons to give commencement speeches.

Those decrying the actions of the students are failing to understand what the graduation ceremony represents. It is a celebration of the students' accomplishment. The speaker is there to add to the celebration, not detract from it. He, or she, is a guest of the institution but should be someone who is a pleasant addition. The graduation ceremony is not a learning experience. It is not to get another view of our culture or our politics. It is for fun. And being forced to listen to someone who represents the policies of the Trump administration is the opposite of celebratory for most young people and most college educated people.

You pick your best friend to toast you at your wedding, reminding you of past fun times and giving you encouragement for your bright future, not someone who bullied you in high school.
The students want "yes men" in EVERY aspect of their lives now...if you disagree...you're a "hater"...and shunned.
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Dirtbanker, you are wrong, as usual. Betsy DeVos is totally unqualified for Sec of Education. She got that because of political donations.

The professors you are bashing are the offspring of our generation. Didn't you teach them right? I went to college to learn to think for myself. The kids in college think for themselves and get challenged by professors. That is good.

Negative Nancy? I don't think so. Combat disabled Vietnam vet. Progressive thinking also.
Sandy - I have thanked you for your service a few times already, but THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE! I truly appreciate it!!

I am not wrong. You are bashing someone who is accomplished, only due to her political leanings. She is educated, but you are saying her education is not good enough for you. Do you believe basketball star Arnie got the position due to his performance running the failed Chicago school system??

I am not bashing professors, I am telling you what is happening on campus today, not 1960. The professors are not challenging students, they are ruling and silencing students that due not agree with their political message. You are out of touch with the college environment and I did not educate the professors of today, I am not a liberal.

Ever wonder why an applicant is required to fill out a FAFSA, even if they are not looking for financial assistance...Don't question the demographics cited on the college websites...College is boot camp for the liberal army.

I challenge you to present one positive post you have made on this forum.
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Good for them! TOMORROW 5/21 Sunday.

Your view is simply DISGUSTING.

I did not vote for Obama yet he was my president.

Clearly, YOU did not vote for Trump WAKE UP FROM YOUR OBAMA HYPNOSIS. Trump is OUR president. BE THANKFUL FOR OUR FORM OF GOVERNMENT. IF, YOU THINK-YOU WOULD CHOOSE A DICTATORSHIP.
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More accurately mindless minions of the party.
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Old 05-21-2017, 10:24 AM
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I am an unapologetic liberal. This kind of post does not help our side although I understand where the motivation to says these things comes from. And if enough Trump administration representatives get booed and walked out on, then perhaps college administrators will stop inviting such persons to give commencement speeches.

Those decrying the actions of the students are failing to understand what the graduation ceremony represents. It is a celebration of the students' accomplishment. The speaker is there to add to the celebration, not detract from it. He, or she, is a guest of the institution but should be someone who is a pleasant addition. The graduation ceremony is not a learning experience. It is not to get another view of our culture or our politics. It is for fun. And being forced to listen to someone who represents the policies of the Trump administration is the opposite of celebratory for most young people and most college educated people.

You pick your best friend to toast you at your wedding, reminding you of past fun times and giving you encouragement for your bright future, not someone who bullied you in high school.
Bravo! Well what a nice way to get around to saying simply that " students have a right to say they support speech repression or "shut up" to the ideas of others.

I thought the purpose of a college education is to send students into the world with minds open and questioning, not closed and self righteous? I would believe that the objective would include speakers with varying points of view on the world.

Essentially what students are doing to people like Mike Pence, Ann Coulter, Donald Trump, Heather Mac Donald is what experts term "linguistic constructivism, which holds that we don't merely describe or represent the world in language , language creates the world and ourselves ( i.e. I identify as)...if reality is nothing more than a mere narrative then we can control what people say or are forbidden to say.

Speech repression comes in many forms such as trigger warnings, microagressions, claims of cultural appropriations, claims of non-binary sex ,safe spaces Gosh with lingusitic constructivism , specious claims can be endless.

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