Notre Dame graduates walk out on Mike Pence commencement speech

 
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Old 05-22-2017, 06:25 AM
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I am an unapologetic liberal. This kind of post does not help our side although I understand where the motivation to says these things comes from. And if enough Trump administration representatives get booed and walked out on, then perhaps college administrators will stop inviting such persons to give commencement speeches.

Those decrying the actions of the students are failing to understand what the graduation ceremony represents. It is a celebration of the students' accomplishment. The speaker is there to add to the celebration, not detract from it. He, or she, is a guest of the institution but should be someone who is a pleasant addition. The graduation ceremony is not a learning experience. It is not to get another view of our culture or our politics. It is for fun. And being forced to listen to someone who represents the policies of the Trump administration is the opposite of celebratory for most young people and most college educated people.

You pick your best friend to toast you at your wedding, reminding you of past fun times and giving you encouragement for your bright future, not someone who bullied you in high school.
Nicely put. I do not believe that these kids should have to listen to some politician of the week talk abut some subject or another when these should me memories of a lifetime.
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Exactly. You speak to the problem. Once the politicians fit nicely into a bell curve. We had blue dog democrats liberal republicans but they all had one thing in common they were more patriotic and overall had sight of the bigger picture.

In today's political world the Democratic Party is dominated by fascist progressives whose only agenda is total federal/state government control

these fascist progressive are succeeding because they control the public unions and our educational institution from Kindergarten to post grad work. Just look at the public unions platform and look at the curriculum in schools, colleges and universities across the country.

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You forgot to mention....all assisted, amplified and promoted by the main stream media.
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I absolutely would never want to hear obama or hillary speak either.
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good for them! Tomorrow 5/21 sunday.
they are pigs with no damn manners
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I absolutely would never want to hear obama or hillary speak either.
Obama reads...Clinton shrieks.....agree not wanting to hear either.
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That's how "government" works..."government" is a facade the wealthy/powerful set up to benefit themselves and the corporations they run. Many...all?...high level positions in government are either bought or assigned...depending on their importance to "the system". High ups in government become high ups in business and vice versa. Even the "elected" positions are a fraud, are fixed from the start. Whom did you "elect"? Those who were PLACED in front of you. To the "system", for those in charge who owned them all...it didn't matter WHICH of "their guys" we chose...they ALL work for them.

Why do you think Trump is backpedaling now? He's TOLD what to do.

We did a horrible thing...we created a gender who collectively suffer from delusion...the delusion that they are equals to men. We created a race/races who suffer from the same delusion...the delusion that they are equal to white people. THAT is where we failed...everyone should NOT get a trophy...maybe next time they'll try just a little harder...and IMPROVE. That's what affirmative action and quotas did...it DESTROYED the motivation to improve. America has languished, it's gone from #1 to #25. We are literally devolving socially as we devolve into a 3rd world majority. White people keep/kept thing afloat...we are sinking because too many minorities are trying to climb aboard...when the number reaches a tipping point...the ship WILL founder...taking us all with it. Times WILL get very ugly. This time ISN'T different...it's how it ALWAYS ends.

You're "progressive"...meaning socialist, communist, we ALL share and share alike, everyone has equal worth...because you're a woman. MOST liberals are women and MOST "conservatives" are men. It's our brains...we DO have different wiring...we DO think VERY differently.
your wired differently all right, I won't say which body part does the thinking!!!!
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your wired differently all right, I won't say which body part does the thinking!!!!
And once again we get a "I know you are but what am I" response.
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What the behavior represents is poor breeding. I recall my mother's comments about behavior and she said even if you do not like the person as they enter your home offer them a cup of coffee.

What these students have shown is their smallness, pettiness and the benefit derived from open nd honest communication.

Mike Pence is n honorable man and he would have welcomed their comments and concerns. They lost that opportunity and because they lost that opportunit we all lost

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I applaud those students for walking out on pence. He is NOT an honorable man at all. Small and petty? Hardly. THEY DID NOT INVITE HIM TO THEIR GRADUATION! Why should they be subjected to him? Do you really believe he wanted to hear what they had to say? Did he invite those students after the fact for dialogue?

Those students were making their voices heard by peacefully walking out on a man they have no respect for. Respect is something that is earned. pence has not earned the respect due the Office of Vice President. They were exercising their First Amendment rights. It is still America and we still have laws in place, despite what Comrade trump would like.
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That's how "government" works..."government" is a facade the wealthy/powerful set up to benefit themselves and the corporations they run. Many...all?...high level positions in government are either bought or assigned...depending on their importance to "the system". High ups in government become high ups in business and vice versa. Even the "elected" positions are a fraud, are fixed from the start. Whom did you "elect"? Those who were PLACED in front of you. To the "system", for those in charge who owned them all...it didn't matter WHICH of "their guys" we chose...they ALL work for them.

Why do you think Trump is backpedaling now? He's TOLD what to do.

We did a horrible thing...we created a gender who collectively suffer from delusion...the delusion that they are equals to men. We created a race/races who suffer from the same delusion...the delusion that they are equal to white people. THAT is where we failed...everyone should NOT get a trophy...maybe next time they'll try just a little harder...and IMPROVE. That's what affirmative action and quotas did...it DESTROYED the motivation to improve. America has languished, it's gone from #1 to #25. We are literally devolving socially as we devolve into a 3rd world majority. White people keep/kept thing afloat...we are sinking because too many minorities are trying to climb aboard...when the number reaches a tipping point...the ship WILL founder...taking us all with it. Times WILL get very ugly. This time ISN'T different...it's how it ALWAYS ends.

You're "progressive"...meaning socialist, communist, we ALL share and share alike, everyone has equal worth...because you're a woman. MOST liberals are women and MOST "conservatives" are men. It's our brains...we DO have different wiring...we DO think VERY differently.
Guest - is your name David Duke or donald trump? In either case, your post reveals you to be a racist pig.
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Guest - is your name David Duke or donald trump? In either case, your post reveals you to be a racist pig.
You definitely nailed our resident Racist Boy (Don Baldwin).



BTW - A quick way to identify these people is to hit the 'quote' button in any post, scroll way down...and the last 10 or so posts will have their user name next to their post.

You'll soon get to the point, where you could almost make the posts for some of these simpletons...before they even post.
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Bravo! Well what a nice way to get around to saying simply that " students have a right to say they support speech repression or "shut up" to the ideas of others.

I thought the purpose of a college education is to send students into the world with minds open and questioning, not closed and self righteous? I would believe that the objective would include speakers with varying points of view on the world.

Essentially what students are doing to people like Mike Pence, Ann Coulter, Donald Trump, Heather Mac Donald is what experts term "linguistic constructivism, which holds that we don't merely describe or represent the world in language , language creates the world and ourselves ( i.e. I identify as)...if reality is nothing more than a mere narrative then we can control what people say or are forbidden to say.

Speech repression comes in many forms such as trigger warnings, microagressions, claims of cultural appropriations, claims of non-binary sex ,safe spaces Gosh with lingusitic constructivism , specious claims can be endless.

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The students have heard the words of pence, coulter and trump before. They don't like what those people have to say. They should not be subjected to them at THEIR GRADUATION.

The students also have something to say and have clearly demonstrated that by walking out on the devos, pence, trump, coulter, etc. It is their First Amendment right.

It is clear that trump does not support the First Amendment. He makes it quite evident every time he pouts and calls the news "fake" because he does not like what has been reported about him.
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The students have heard the words of pence, coulter and trump before. They don't like what those people have to say. They should not be subjected to them at THEIR GRADUATION.

The students also have something to say and have clearly demonstrated that by walking out on the devos, pence, trump, coulter, etc. It is their First Amendment right.

It is clear that trump does not support the First Amendment. He makes it quite evident every time he pouts and calls the news "fake" because he does not like what has been reported about him.
It's about to get a whole lot worse for Trump, as a breaking story has Trump trying to get a couple of his Intel Chiefs...to publicly dispute FBI probe on Russia.


Does this idiot Trump really believe, that he can bully and threaten people in government...like he was notorious for doing in private business?


More importantly, why are so many of his cultists...deaf & dumb to his sociopathic behavior?


Chump's resignation (as many predict)...seems to be getting closer.
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It's about to get a whole lot worse for Trump, as a breaking story has Trump trying to get a couple of his Intel Chiefs...to publicly dispute FBI probe on Russia.


Does this idiot Trump really believe, that he can bully and threaten people in government...like he was notorious for doing in private business?


More importantly, why are so many of his cultists...deaf & dumb to his sociopathic behavior?


Chump's resignation (as many predict)...seems to be getting closer.
If even half these reports are true, he has a problem. These are factual reports, most uncontested by him or the White House that do not show he was in collusion with Russia, but certainly shows his fear of allowing this to continue.

And we do not know what else the investigators have in addition.

I get a kick out of folks blaming the media for always reporting negative articles on him. What the hell else is there ? How do you blame the media when NOTHING has been disproved.
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If even half these reports are true, he has a problem. These are factual reports, most uncontested by him or the White House that do not show he was in collusion with Russia, but certainly shows his fear of allowing this to continue.

And we do not know what else the investigators have in addition.

I get a kick out of folks blaming the media for always reporting negative articles on him. What the hell else is there ? How do you blame the media when NOTHING has been disproved.
Yep.

And the only defense so far, is trying to blame those who leaked...for Trump's own actions.

I mean really, how desperate, pathetic and stupid is that?

My favorite quote, that still sums it up best is... "The house is on fire, Trump is running around with a box of matches, and the GOP demands to know who called the fire department."
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I attended my nephew's college graduation yesterday and was pleasantly surprised by the commencement speech given by CNN host, Dr. Fareed Zakaria. I was bracing myself for the usual liberal talking points and anti-Trump rhetoric, but instead thoroughly enjoyed his speech as he attempted to bring both sides together. He denounced the protests and walk-outs on other campuses as being just the opposite of how he hoped that students would react when confronted with someone with an opposing viewpoint. Instead, he encouraged the graduates to listen to those viewpoints with respect and an expectancy of learning something by listening to those who think differently. I found myself, instead of looking for the closest exit, actually glued to my seat. By the crowd response, I would say it was a very well received speech.
 

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