Posted by Guest (Post 1247192)

That WAS the purpose. Now it's a way to beg for money when you probably have no business being there.

The tuition goes up when the government makes $trillions available via easy money. Yes, too many "students" with money to spend makes tuition go up.

But it shouldn't a Harvard who gets just 1% of it's income from tuition.

Athletics is where the money and prestige is.

Isn't a football coach the highest paid in "academia"?



That was the only way to fight quotas and affirmative action. How to keep from having to carry all that dead wood. Make all the jobs require advanced degrees. Even WITH quotas and affirmative action on;y a VERY small percent of minorities can complete them, and those who do, are the cream of the crop and can usually handle the work.

Posted by Guest (Post 1247189)

Officially the Servicemen’s Readjustment Act of 1944, the G.I. Bill was created to help veterans of World War II. It established hospitals, made low-interest mortgages available and granted stipends covering tuition and expenses for veterans attending college or trade schools. From 1944 to 1949, nearly 9 million veterans received close to $4 billion from the bill’s unemployment compensation program. The education and training provisions existed until 1956, while the Veterans’ Administration offered insured loans until 1962. The Readjustment Benefits Act of 1966 extended these benefits to all veterans of the armed forces, including those who had served during peacetime. G.I. Bill - World War II - HISTORY.com


That's affirmative action too. God Bless America. These men didn't do it on their own. That's the teamwork Obama is talking about.


How much was your tuition and what year did you graduate? What college did you attend and I'll tell you what the tuition is today. Let's compare apples to apples.

The government [that's us] steadily lowered their contribution to colleges. It's a downward cycle that started 35 years ago. What makes it even more difficult for young people is that now 1 out of 3 have a BA or BS. That's what's needed for an entry level position.

My modest salary the first year out of college was enough to pay for the previous 4 years in college if I had to. Who can say that today?

Posted by Guest (Post 1247232)

Sorry to put it to you like this after all that writing you just did, but none of that pertains to me. I really DID pay my own way. I went to night school to get my college education and paid cash for my tuition and books. I also put three of my four children through private school. No, I never had a new car in 20+ years, but it was worth it.
If you want to compare costs for an education then with now, you also need to consider inflation, etc.

No, the government did not do it for me. Some of us r4eally did build it ourselves. Unfortunately, liberals will never understand because they do not appreciate self-reliance. They need the government

Posted by Guest (Post 1247189)

Officially the Servicemen’s Readjustment Act of 1944, the G.I. Bill was created to help veterans of World War II. It established hospitals, made low-interest mortgages available and granted stipends covering tuition and expenses for veterans attending college or trade schools. From 1944 to 1949, nearly 9 million veterans received close to $4 billion from the bill’s unemployment compensation program. The education and training provisions existed until 1956, while the Veterans’ Administration offered insured loans until 1962. The Readjustment Benefits Act of 1966 extended these benefits to all veterans of the armed forces, including those who had served during peacetime. G.I. Bill - World War II - HISTORY.com


That's affirmative action too. God Bless America. These men didn't do it on their own. That's the teamwork Obama is talking about.


How much was your tuition and what year did you graduate? What college did you attend and I'll tell you what the tuition is today. Let's compare apples to apples.

The government [that's us] steadily lowered their contribution to colleges. It's a downward cycle that started 35 years ago. What makes it even more difficult for young people is that now 1 out of 3 have a BA or BS. That's what's needed for an entry level position.

My modest salary the first year out of college was enough to pay for the previous 4 years in college if I had to. Who can say that today?

Posted by Guest (Post 1247307)

Your comparing the G.I. Bill to Affirmative Action is ludicrous. One group put their lives on the line to defend their country and the other group risked NOTHING. And to you, both groups deserve equal consideration? Only in a fool's world. But, what would you know about putting you life on the line for your country?

Oh, and your statement about Obama's "teamwork" is just a more of the typical "feel good", "take the credit" for someone else's success liberal speak your ilk is known for!

Posted by Guest (Post 1247317)

OK--I'll take what you said into consideration. You're a self made man with no one to thank but yourself.

Posted by Guest (Post 1247321)

And, you are just another condescending liberal that feels entitled to take the credit for everyone else's success. If you think that you (liberals) are somehow responsible for the success of others, why do you not feel responsible for the failure of others as well?

Posted by Guest (Post 1247321)

And, you are just another condescending liberal that feels entitled to take the credit for everyone else's success. If you think that you (liberals) are somehow responsible for the success of others, why do you not feel responsible for the failure of others as well?

Posted by Guest (Post 1247317)

OK--I'll take what you said into consideration. You're a self made man with no one to thank but yourself.

Posted by Guest (Post 1247317)

OK--I'll take what you said into consideration. You're a self made man with no one to thank but yourself.

Posted by Guest (Post 1247338)

The reason the kids today need a BA/BS degree for entry level is because their degree is equivalent to one of our High School diplomas. When today's college graduate can't even write a coherent sentence or do simple math, there is something radically wrong with the education system. Today's basic liberal arts degree does nothing that a decent HS education should be able to give you. And the jobs they perform do not need it anyway.

Posted by Guest (Post 1247359)

That's the problem, isn't it? What do middle class jobs look like?

I told my kids in high school to prepare for college but also take the Cisco Networking Courses the high school offered and pass the CNA exam. This way you have options. They did not pass the exam but took the courses, became engineers and they are the gurus at work.

Maybe Trump is overlooking his best idea to make America Great Again, The Apprentice Concept.

After the eighth grade kids should shadow an adult for 1 year. It could be an adult with bedpan duty or a surgeon, a HVAC helper or the librarian's assistant. And when they start high school they will not waste so much time. They would see the light at the end of the tunnel and know the clock is ticking.

You couldn't do that in our society. There would be all kinds of liabilities. That really requires an open mind and less government regulations.

But isn't that how children used to learn? And if you go in a lot of mom and pop shops it still goes on. Losing the mom and pop shops is the hurt that keeps on hurting.

Posted by Guest (Post 1247365)

Not such a bad idea. On the other hand, you will be called a Regressive for that kind of thinking. :eclipsee_gold_cup:

Posted by Guest (Post 1247357)

In my case, I am a self made man that thanks my wife for her support and GOD for giving me the ability. I also thank the Constitution for allowing me the Freedom and Liberty to be what I can, within my physical and mental limits. I don't thank our government because they are supposed to be working for me and I am supposed to be their boss. They are public servants, like it or not. It's a shame that they have allowed some self-perceived status to make them think that they deserve to be in control of our lives.

And I do NOT approve of Obama's job performance and he is not a good example of what America should have as a president. And our country has survived for the past seven years in spite of his efforts to thwart it.