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Guest 10-02-2015 01:15 PM

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Wow!

Advocating for immediate execution for ANY type of crime is rather stiff, isn't it?

Purse snatching, shoplifting, tax cheating, speeding in your golf cart, sex on the square all get a bullet to the back of the head in Conservative's viewpoint?

Hmmm, you read a lot more into that post than I did. Do you always jump to extremes?

Guest 10-02-2015 01:18 PM

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If this shooter in oregon made his choices to kill, shoot in the head, based on whether or not the killed were "Christian" why is this not called a terror attack?

Does it matter? Maybe if he shouted "Praise God!" we could label it terrorism. It's much easier to take advantage of this while it is still hot and call it a need for gun control. Hurry, jump on the wagon before it slows down.

Guest 10-02-2015 01:27 PM

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and as usual he had absolutely nothing of any substance to say (SOP) except push on the gun issue....AGAIN.

It is a good thing the networks suck up to the office which he certainly has no idea about at all. All talk waste of time in chief!!!

I am anything but a fan of President Obama on just about anything and have expressed that loud and clear on this forum for years,

HOWEVER

I understand his anger and his frustration; I really do.

I am not a gun owner; never have been. BUT.....

USA leads the world in shootings like this ? Why ?

Ok....in no logical order at all...

1. Why does anyone need so many guns ? Why does not a collector need to declare himself a collector and be on record.

2. Why do so many multiple magazine guns need to be held personally ?

3. Why do we not ever look at what has happened in this country that has all these hateful shooting ? The law has NO respect. The family has NO respect. We seem to obey only laws that we want and make light of it. THIS IS THE UNDERLYING PROBLEM, NOT THE GUNS THEMSELVES.

4. Why do we tolerate the constant killing of people under the guise of gangs ? Are we so sensitive to race issues that we allow this kind of violence, where illegal guns are used to kill one race basically while we turn all our attention on media and elsewhere on on misguided policeman ?

5. Why are we not magnifying the family issues that seem to always be behind these shooters ?

Ok...did my venting but as a country we just ignore what I think are the problems. I agree with those who say guns dont kill, but that is not enough.
I am also mad and angry and I join the President in that emotion.

Guest 10-02-2015 02:13 PM

If you don't like guns, then don't buy one.

"USA leads the world in shootings like this ? Why ?"
Because we lead the world in mental cases like this.

"1. Why does anyone need so many guns ?"
Is having a bunch of guns the problem? Are the killers, gun collectors? I haven't seen any evidence of this.

I think that some of you are just frustrated at the amount of mental illness, not at the instrument used to kill others. Do you really think that getting rid of guns is going to hide or alleviate the problem?

The problem is not guns. It's mental illness. What's related to mental illness? Morals, ethics, conscience, environment, responsibility, etc. Take away the moral standards, making respect for others a non-issue then you are bound to have problems with the law.

Less church attendance
No respect for the flag and country
violent TV and movies
Violent video games
Sexual deviancy in TV, Movies and news
Acceptable PUBLIC sexual deviancy
Public vulgar language
Unacceptable public behavior, allowed under supposed constitutional venue.
Acceptable violation of ethics (ie, improper handling of classified material, lying, etc)
Slackening of law enforcement
Adultery

Need I go on? These are indicators of a sliding of American standards and civility.

Guns are an instrument of self defense and hunting. If it was safe enough to leave our homes unlocked and vehicles unlocked, then there would be no need for self defense.

If there is no longer a belief in God then there is no longer any fear of repercussion for doing evil. If our high American standards are no longer valid, then America will degenerate into chaos and criminality.

Guest 10-02-2015 03:33 PM

Liberals say it is impossible to control a few million illegals aliens so they want to legalize them, but they say they can control a billion legally owned guns.

Guest 10-02-2015 06:42 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1123247)
If you don't like guns, then don't buy one.

"USA leads the world in shootings like this ? Why ?"
Because we lead the world in mental cases like this.

"1. Why does anyone need so many guns ?"
Is having a bunch of guns the problem? Are the killers, gun collectors? I haven't seen any evidence of this.

I think that some of you are just frustrated at the amount of mental illness, not at the instrument used to kill others. Do you really think that getting rid of guns is going to hide or alleviate the problem?

The problem is not guns. It's mental illness. What's related to mental illness? Morals, ethics, conscience, environment, responsibility, etc. Take away the moral standards, making respect for others a non-issue then you are bound to have problems with the law.

Less church attendance
No respect for the flag and country
violent TV and movies
Violent video games
Sexual deviancy in TV, Movies and news
Acceptable PUBLIC sexual deviancy
Public vulgar language
Unacceptable public behavior, allowed under supposed constitutional venue.
Acceptable violation of ethics (ie, improper handling of classified material, lying, etc)
Slackening of law enforcement
Adultery

Need I go on? These are indicators of a sliding of American standards and civility.

Guns are an instrument of self defense and hunting. If it was safe enough to leave our homes unlocked and vehicles unlocked, then there would be no need for self defense.

If there is no longer a belief in God then there is no longer any fear of repercussion for doing evil. If our high American standards are no longer valid, then America will degenerate into chaos and criminality.

Thank you. This message needs to be repeated often as possible. I do and have been here and in the regular forum.

I do not understand why more Americans do not see or comprehend the degeneration of morals and America complimented by the permissive anything goes and by all means don't say something when you see something for fear of offending someone.

If nothing changes morally, in law enforcement and more doing what is right then....today may well be as good as we will ever see it in the foreseeable future.

All one has to do is look back from whence we have come and what is fully acceptable today that not too long ago was either taboo, or just common sense not done or condoned.

We are living the saying....going to hell in a handbasket.

Guest 10-02-2015 06:52 PM

Try to not discredit the author or the source, but read the entire article.
Set aside the ones you don't believe or doubt.
No matter what it is an ugly picture that is closer to the truth than most of us want to acknowledge.
We just never get to see it all in one list like this.

Absolutely confirms....IT AIN'T THE GUNS:

100 Facts About The Moral Collapse Of America That Are Almost Too Crazy To Believe

Guest 10-03-2015 09:43 AM

...and now we have Jeb Bush saying "stuff happens" when speaking about the Oregon college killings. Good going, Jebbie. That is a sure way to show Americans how you feel about gun violence. Just quit now and throw your support to Buckwheat.

Guest 10-03-2015 10:00 AM

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...and now we have Jeb Bush saying "stuff happens" when speaking about the Oregon college killings. Good going, Jebbie. That is a sure way to show Americans how you feel about gun violence. Just quit now and throw your support to Buckwheat.

Nice try again attempting to ignore what the intent of the comments were and going after the semantics and as usual ignoring the point of the comment.

So predictable. So :censored: shallow.

Guest 10-03-2015 10:09 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1123542)
...and now we have Jeb Bush saying "stuff happens" when speaking about the Oregon college killings. Good going, Jebbie. That is a sure way to show Americans how you feel about gun violence. Just quit now and throw your support to Buckwheat.

I can see why liberals are stupid enough to support Hilary, after reading your comment. I dare you to post his complete statement, instead of two words of it.

When Hilary was questioned about the deaths in Benghazi, she replied "what difference does it make?"

Of course, you probably didn't eve read or listen to Bush's complete statement. I am sure that you got your information from Huffington Post or some other teenager from your on-line video game.

Guest 10-03-2015 11:17 AM

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This is all time low for president again. We didn't even know names of victims and he's politically blaming NRA. He is a disgrace. He didn't say a word about the 49 shot in Chicago last weekend.

When this man was first elected, I actually thought he should be given a chance. Immediately during discussions on health care....he called them discussions; I found them to be lectures....he copped this attitude and it has remained

not just the fourth quarter. It’s trash talk time.
President Barack Obama’s never done a good job hiding his disdain for the people he doesn’t like—a long list that includes reporters, Republicans, pretty much every member of Congress, the foreign leaders he considers petty and childish (Vladimir Putin and Benjamin Netanyanu most of all). Everyone would see things his way, he tends to project, if only they were a little smarter and thought it through as thoroughly as he has.
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Usually when he’s explaining why the world’s wrong and he’s right, he’s looking down his nose and drily lecturing, getting deep into wonky policy explications that leave even his staff yawning and too confused or bored to explain.
On Friday afternoon in the State Dining Room, at a wide-ranging press conference, he was just having a good time.
He showed up ready to mock, with an unimpressed, exaggerated upside down smile just one right cheek mole short of a Robert DeNiro impression. The smile popped up again and again, as he swept his hand to dismiss questions, cutting off one reporter reciting criticism of him versus Putin with a wrap-it-up finger motion and saying, “I get it,” then sneering through a takedown that ended with him taking a beat like he’d been training at the Friar’s Club: “So – what was the question again?”
On Jeb Bush's dismissal of a school shooting in Oregon as “stuff happens": “I don’t even think I need to react to that one.''
On the upcoming fight with Congress over the debt ceiling, with a laugh: “I’m sure the speaker’s race complicates these negotiations.''
The most pronounced smirk came as he brushed off people who don’t agree with him on guns: “There are all sort of crackpot theories floating around,” Obama said, “some of which are sometimes ratified by elected officials in the other party.”


Read more: Obama’s trash talk - POLITICO

Guest 10-03-2015 03:26 PM

Obama is nothing more than a ghetto baby, that has had everything given to him and yet believes everything is owed to him. His disdain for tradition and establishment is reminiscent of a two year liberal arts student that has a petulant tantrum when made to rise from bed before noon. He believes he knows everything when the fact is that he knows nothing. He is a disgrace and failure when lined up with ALL previous presidents. A clown in the White House is funny in a TV comedy for barely one season. But, a persistent rerun of yesteryear SNL episodes in the White House gets old fast. In his last days of office, he will have to be watched especially close so that he doesn't destroy the office before vacating the position.

Guest 10-03-2015 03:27 PM

Worst 8 years in the 21 century.

Guest 10-03-2015 05:21 PM

There were 61 gun homicides in the City Of Chicago in the month of September. Did you hear anything from Mr. O'Bonehead on that? Hell no. These are his former constituents in a city with some of the toughest gun laws in the country. O'Bama is nothing more than a demagogue. These mass shootings are a society issue, not a gun issue. Our society produces these people who watch TV violence, movie violence, video game shootings, no limitations on anything I do because I am me. WTF? Why aren't the democrats attacking their Hollywood friends? They're accessories before the fact. It's not a constitutional issue. When a drunk gets in a car a kills someone, do they shout get rid of the cars? A heck of a lot more people are killed by drunk drivers every year. I don't like liberal reporters or the liberal press. Should we get rid of the first amendment? I don't like criminals hiding behind the law. Should we get rid of the fourth and fifth amendments? Some people just don't like guns. Too bad. If guns were banned on the whole earth, there would be people who build them and sell them. Heroine and cocaine are illegal aren't they? No junkies around are there? Maybe we should work harder at making better people and better citizens. Stop attacking constitutional rights and leave the constitution alone. Far as I know, none of the first 10 amendments take priority over the other.

Guest 10-03-2015 05:31 PM

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There were 61 gun homicides in the City Of Chicago in the month of September. Did you hear anything from Mr. O'Bonehead on that? Hell no. These are his former constituents in a city with some of the toughest gun laws in the country. O'Bama is nothing more than a demagogue. These mass shootings are a society issue, not a gun issue. Our society produces these people who watch TV violence, movie violence, video game shootings, no limitations on anything I do because I am me. WTF? Why aren't the democrats attacking their Hollywood friends? They're accessories before the fact. It's not a constitutional issue. When a drunk gets in a car a kills someone, do they shout get rid of the cars? A heck of a lot more people are killed by drunk drivers every year. I don't like liberal reporters or the liberal press. Should we get rid of the first amendment? I don't like criminals hiding behind the law. Should we get rid of the fourth and fifth amendments? Some people just don't like guns. Too bad. If guns were banned on the whole earth, there would be people who build them and sell them. Heroine and cocaine are illegal aren't they? No junkies around are there? Maybe we should work harder at making better people and better citizens. Stop attacking constitutional rights and leave the constitution alone. Far as I know, none of the first 10 amendments take priority over the other.

:agree:

Guest 10-03-2015 06:26 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1123771)
There were 61 gun homicides in the City Of Chicago in the month of September. Did you hear anything from Mr. O'Bonehead on that? Hell no. These are his former constituents in a city with some of the toughest gun laws in the country. O'Bama is nothing more than a demagogue. These mass shootings are a society issue, not a gun issue. Our society produces these people who watch TV violence, movie violence, video game shootings, no limitations on anything I do because I am me. WTF? Why aren't the democrats attacking their Hollywood friends? They're accessories before the fact. It's not a constitutional issue. When a drunk gets in a car a kills someone, do they shout get rid of the cars? A heck of a lot more people are killed by drunk drivers every year. I don't like liberal reporters or the liberal press. Should we get rid of the first amendment? I don't like criminals hiding behind the law. Should we get rid of the fourth and fifth amendments? Some people just don't like guns. Too bad. If guns were banned on the whole earth, there would be people who build them and sell them. Heroine and cocaine are illegal aren't they? No junkies around are there? Maybe we should work harder at making better people and better citizens. Stop attacking constitutional rights and leave the constitution alone. Far as I know, none of the first 10 amendments take priority over the other.

Liberals thrive on "feel good" legislation. Pass something, anything, and they will feel better. The ineffectiveness of any new legislation will make no difference to them as long as they feel that they have done something to solve the problem.

Guest 10-03-2015 10:29 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1123792)
Liberals thrive on "feel good" legislation. Pass something, anything, and they will feel better. The ineffectiveness of any new legislation will make no difference to them as long as they feel that they have done something to solve the problem.

And of corse we have the Obama approach which is talk about the problem (only the ones he wants to talk about)........he then feels good that he has addressed the issue. No action, no follow up, no enforcement, no commitment........no nothing.......just talk!

Guest 10-03-2015 11:26 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1123224)
It's legal to carry concealed into a restaurant that has a bar in it, if the primary purpose of the restaurant is to sell food, not alcohol. The law states that you cannot enter an establishment that has the primary function of selling alcohol.

If I see you or any of your John Wayne (the coward) buddies sitting in the bar part of a restaurant with a concealed weapon, I will call 911 and have your sorry butt perp-walked out in cuffs.

Personal Best Regards:

Guest 10-04-2015 04:57 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1123899)
If I see you or any of your John Wayne (the coward) buddies sitting in the bar part of a restaurant with a concealed weapon, I will call 911 and have your sorry butt perp-walked out in cuffs.

Personal Best Regards:

You won't see me sitting in a bar. I don't drink. But, even if I was in a bar, if you sight my CCW then feel free to do what you believe is right. You may be a bit mistaken as to the definition of coward, if you are the one that calls 911. By the way, I am the one that "perp-walked" the bad guy in the past. I've never been "perp-walked" anywhere at any time.
And you might want to get your priorities straight. It's the bad guys you need to be afraid of, not the good citizen. And remember where the mass killings take place, in gun free zones like schools, theaters and anyplace where guns are not allowed....maybe a bar?
John Wayne "the coward?" Where did that come from?
I doubt anyone would call me a coward, especially to my face, but that is your prerogative as an anonymous blogger. Just be careful in real life when you get overconfident and publicly name call. This coward might just be the one that saves your butt by being in the right place at the right time, carrying his CCW.

Guest 10-05-2015 09:22 AM

OhioBuckeye
 
We have to many people that don't know squat about guns & they're trying to tell us all about guns. Obama, is blaming the NRA & the NRA hasn't got nothing to do with someone killing someone. If Obama is trying to shove guns laws down our throats, he ought to use his own city of Chicago as a model role & pass a gun law their first & then we'll see how the gun laws works before he screws up the whole country. Believe me if he can't do it there how will he get the guns from the criminals over the rest of the country!

Guest 10-05-2015 09:57 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1124572)
We have to many people that don't know squat about guns & they're trying to tell us all about guns. Obama, is blaming the NRA & the NRA hasn't got nothing to do with someone killing someone. If Obama is trying to shove guns laws down our throats, he ought to use his own city of Chicago as a model role & pass a gun law their first & then we'll see how the gun laws works before he screws up the whole country. Believe me if he can't do it there how will he get the guns from the criminals over the rest of the country!

He's against the NRA because they won't support him. And he is against anyone that won't laugh at his jokes. As a matter of fact, he is derisive and UN-presidential against anyone that doesn't agree with him. He gives the prefect example of the term "petulant." The more he speaks the more stupid he appears. His motto is "leading from behind." He will be known in history as the "rear end." He should have a sign put on his desk that says "the rear end stops here."

Guest 10-05-2015 10:03 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1124572)
We have to many people that don't know squat about guns & they're trying to tell us all about guns. Obama, is blaming the NRA & the NRA hasn't got nothing to do with someone killing someone. If Obama is trying to shove guns laws down our throats, he ought to use his own city of Chicago as a model role & pass a gun law their first & then we'll see how the gun laws works before he screws up the whole country. Believe me if he can't do it there how will he get the guns from the criminals over the rest of the country!

There is one reason and one reason only that Obama and most democrats keep yakking about gotta do something about guns is the voting block.

Believe me if he thought for one minute that joining the NRA and owning a gun would get them the majority vote they would be first in line to join and preach the virtues of gun ownership.

I was amused in one of many gotta do something speeches last week when he said the American people have spoken and they want something done about the mass shootings. And it was Washington's job to do the will of the people.

How in the hell can even Obama keep a straight face when mouthing the bold lie of touting being in the job to serve the will of the people.

ACA was overwhelmingly not wanted by we the people....wonder how that got passed?

Iran getting a bomb deal? Again most Americans overwhelmingly against the agreement.....how did our lawmakers pass that one?

He is a full blooded, 100%, two faced, lying, incompetent that's how.....along with the spineless lemmings in congress (that totally and completely ignored the will of the people).

Guest 10-05-2015 10:05 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1124599)
There is one reason and one reason only that Obama and most democrats keep yakking about gotta do something about guns is the voting block.

Believe me if he thought for one minute that joining the NRA and owning a gun would get them the majority vote they would be first in line to join and preach the virtues of gun ownership.

I was amused in one of many gotta do something speeches last week when he said the American people have spoken and they want something done about the mass shootings. And it was Washington's job to do the will of the people.

How in the hell can even Obama keep a straight face when mouthing the bold lie of touting being in the job to serve the will of the people.

ACA was overwhelmingly not wanted by we the people....wonder how that got passed?

Iran getting a bomb deal? Again most Americans overwhelmingly against the agreement.....how did our lawmakers pass that one?

He is a full blooded, 100%, two faced, lying, incompetent that's how.....along with the spineless lemmings in congress (that totally and completely ignored the will of the people).

Totally agree......:thumbup:

Guest 10-05-2015 10:36 AM

Amen. I have a friend who's daughter was mugged in Chicago last week. Came up beside her out of nowhere and stuck a gun in her side. All she had was her cell phone and he took it and told her to run or he would shoot. Now if that was your daughter do you wish she had a gun and even time to maybe pull it out. Not me. Chances are the mugger would have another gun and maybe shot her in her attempt to defend herself.
Another situation. Shots ring out in the school. Your son (or daughter) take out their gun and looks around the corner to see the guy with a gun. Your child shoots and kills that person. EXCEPT is another student (good guy) who also is looking for the real bad guy. No, I don't want my son or daughter having a gun in college.


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