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Guest 03-10-2012 12:04 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 465178)
Good grief, VillagerII, what are you smoking??? How are things better and how high do you want the gas to go? I seem to remember that Obama wanted it to be $8.00. Is that your goal, also?

How about a link to President Obama wanting gas to be $8.00 per gallon?

Guest 03-10-2012 12:04 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 465178)
Good grief, VillagerII, what are you smoking??? How are things better and how high do you want the gas to go? I seem to remember that Obama wanted it to be $8.00. Is that your goal, also?

How much gas per capita do Americans consume compared to the rest of the world. That is the problem, not the cost of gas. If gas is too high, get a more efficient car. That will help bring the price down.

Guest 03-10-2012 12:12 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 465185)
How much gas per capita do Americans consume compared to the rest of the world. That is the problem, not the cost of gas. If gas is too high, get a more efficient car. That will help bring the price down.

Have gas company stocks do you? Saying gas prices are right is wacked out.

Guest 03-10-2012 01:29 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 465184)
How about a link to President Obama wanting gas to be $8.00 per gallon?

NO.....I was informed that you do not need links....you can say anything you want with no justification....its ok...so I suppose I should apologize to you for asking you for links on your previous unfounded allegations on other folks.....sorry about that.

I feel so free that you do not need facts anymore...wow

Guest 03-10-2012 01:38 PM

To post that the President any president can have an effect on gas prices is ignorant period.

Guest 03-10-2012 01:50 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 465219)
To post that the President any president can have an effect on gas prices is ignorant period.

I would not call them "ignorant" but you are correct that what the President can do is limited (except for a release from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve) and for me right now, the impact of the middle east instability is huge, but I sure wish I understood his opposition to the pipeline to take a step to some kind of help with independence in the future.

Guest 03-10-2012 02:06 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 465226)
I would not call them "ignorant" but you are correct that what the President can do is limited (except for a release from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve) and for me right now, the impact of the middle east instability is huge, but I sure wish I understood his opposition to the pipeline to take a step to some kind of help with independence in the future.

It looks like he does want an election year to force his hand on the pipeline issue. http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...ine-amendment/

I would hope that they would do a lot of reserach on this pipeline plan for environmental reasons before committing themselves to it. That is something that needs a lot of vetting.

Guest 03-10-2012 02:09 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 465239)
It looks like he does want an election year to force his hand on the pipeline issue. Senate Narrowly Rejects the Keystone Oil Pipeline Amendment - ABC News

I would hope that they would do a lot of reserach on this pipeline plan for environmental reasons before committing themselves to it. That is something that needs a lot of vetting.

I THINK, and I do say THINK, that the latest proposal which he actively spent time shooting down gave time to do just that.....he had to twist even Democrat arms to vote it down...not sure why but getting the environmentalist vote

Guest 03-10-2012 02:22 PM

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To post that the President any president can have an effect on gas prices is ignorant period.

Sounds like lefty tree hugger propaganda. Open up more drill areas and stop buying from Arabs.

Guest 03-10-2012 02:23 PM

Janmcn--According to Investors.com it was future energy secretary Steven Chu who said, in 2008, "Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gas to the levels of Europe." At that time gas was $8.00 a gallon in Europe. I remember Obama echoing this statement, but I could be wrong.

Guest 03-10-2012 02:41 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 465136)
Richie, just admit that the blockbuster news event of Fox turned out to be a wet fizzle. No one cares. You can try and whip up a frenzy but all the energy you are expending on this piece of tripe could be put to so much better use.

Get a grasp on reality and focus on the future - not try and bring up something that meant nothing at all from over 20 years ago.

I'm not trying to whip up a frenzy. I'm just trying to add to the education of the dummies. Is it working? :)

I'm sorry if you would have liked the buried to stay buried.

Our president's formative years carousing with the communists and the racist professors and ministers.......Ah, the good old days.

Guest 03-10-2012 03:21 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 465275)
I'm not trying to whip up a frenzy. I'm just trying to add to the education of the dummies. Is it working? :)

I'm sorry if you would have liked the buried to stay buried.

Our president's formative years carousing with the communists and the racist professors and ministers.......Ah, the good old days.

This is a thread to "whip up a frenzy" ? The person who questioned you started a thread on farm subs that totally skipped over the inaction of those he supports....seems like THAT kind of thread is meant to "whip up..."

Guest 03-10-2012 05:20 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 465185)
How much gas per capita do Americans consume compared to the rest of the world. That is the problem, not the cost of gas. If gas is too high, get a more efficient car. That will help bring the price down.

As much as I'd like to have a more efficient car, I'm not about to spend $300-$500/mo so I can save $20/wk on gas. (I just finished paying off my Camry)

Guest 03-10-2012 05:28 PM

Richie: I'm about the same age as Obama.

You could find a LOT of stuff about me from when I was college-age that has NO bearing as far as my opinions now. (Except maybe for the fact that, having had those opinions and having them changed shows growth)

I was a Democrat until a many by the name of Roy Stone said to me "What makes you think the government owes you a living?"

I was ardently pro-life until I discovered how we treat women who give their kids up for adoption, before I learned of hidden agendas and before my own experiences showed it wasn't so simplistic an issue.

I used to think we should get back on the gold standard until I realized that there isn't enough mining on the planet to come up with enough gold to 'back' the increased economic output of a modern worldwide economy. So we DO need 'fiat money', as Ron Paul puts it.

I used to be against nuclear power until I got more facts (there was a lot of protesting here in NH when Seabrook Station was being built and the Clamshell Alliance was protesting)

I used to be totally against any kind of socialized medicine - until profiteering insurance companies and working in a hospital started disillusioning me - and then seeing what goes on in Canada and in Europe, followed by the statistics that show how far behind we've fallen. The idea still turns my stomach but I just can't argue with the results and hope for some sort of 'hybrid' system (like France and Switzerland have)

When I was 18, I was working, taking college courses at night and wondering if I'd ever find a good woman. I'm 49 now. I'm a VERY different person.

Guest 03-10-2012 05:47 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 465349)
Richie: I'm about the same age as Obama.

You could find a LOT of stuff about me from when I was college-age that has NO bearing as far as my opinions now. (Except maybe for the fact that, having had those opinions and having them changed shows growth)

I was a Democrat until a many by the name of Roy Stone said to me "What makes you think the government owes you a living?"

I was ardently pro-life until I discovered how we treat women who give their kids up for adoption, before I learned of hidden agendas and before my own experiences showed it wasn't so simplistic an issue.

I used to think we should get back on the gold standard until I realized that there isn't enough mining on the planet to come up with enough gold to 'back' the increased economic output of a modern worldwide economy. So we DO need 'fiat money', as Ron Paul puts it.

I used to be against nuclear power until I got more facts (there was a lot of protesting here in NH when Seabrook Station was being built and the Clamshell Alliance was protesting)

I used to be totally against any kind of socialized medicine - until profiteering insurance companies and working in a hospital started disillusioning me - and then seeing what goes on in Canada and in Europe, followed by the statistics that show how far behind we've fallen. The idea still turns my stomach but I just can't argue with the results and hope for some sort of 'hybrid' system (like France and Switzerland have)

When I was 18, I was working, taking college courses at night and wondering if I'd ever find a good woman. I'm 49 now. I'm a VERY different person.


Thanks for the bio, but there's no evidence that Obama is a different person and actually the opposite is true. The circumstantial evidence is that these formative communist underpinnings are most likely the basis for his socialist utopia ideas of today.

Guest 03-10-2012 05:48 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 465349)
Richie: I'm about the same age as Obama.

You could find a LOT of stuff about me from when I was college-age that has NO bearing as far as my opinions now. (Except maybe for the fact that, having had those opinions and having them changed shows growth)

I was a Democrat until a many by the name of Roy Stone said to me "What makes you think the government owes you a living?"

I was ardently pro-life until I discovered how we treat women who give their kids up for adoption, before I learned of hidden agendas and before my own experiences showed it wasn't so simplistic an issue.

I used to think we should get back on the gold standard until I realized that there isn't enough mining on the planet to come up with enough gold to 'back' the increased economic output of a modern worldwide economy. So we DO need 'fiat money', as Ron Paul puts it.

I used to be against nuclear power until I got more facts (there was a lot of protesting here in NH when Seabrook Station was being built and the Clamshell Alliance was protesting)

I used to be totally against any kind of socialized medicine - until profiteering insurance companies and working in a hospital started disillusioning me - and then seeing what goes on in Canada and in Europe, followed by the statistics that show how far behind we've fallen. The idea still turns my stomach but I just can't argue with the results and hope for some sort of 'hybrid' system (like France and Switzerland have)

When I was 18, I was working, taking college courses at night and wondering if I'd ever find a good woman. I'm 49 now. I'm a VERY different person.


Not sure that I, who was not asked, can respond in a respectful manner, but we all change...and that change when your life is reviewed is obvious for the most part.

To compare your life to Obamas is a bit of a stretch as he has been working in a political arena and NOTHING else. He has been aspiring for office all his life basically. He has been developing a political philosophy all his life and nothing much more.

To be associated with the people he has associated with CLOSELY and INTIMATELY while practicing politics is a bit different. He set up a core of beliefs that he has manifested publicly and privately and that core came from an interesting cast of characters.

I am trying to respect your life and I hope you get my point....and there has never been an attempt to hide any of your past...which is normal because there was no reason to.


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