Up usually does rhyme with Up. Just joking!:laugh::laugh:

The conservative right will probably bitch for 8 years the same way that the liberal left bitched for the past 8. The rest of us will just get on with our lives.

The whole petition thing is so stupid. They're trying to claim he isn't a citizen so he isn't eligible to be President. The Fourteenth Amendment states that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States." Since Hawaii is part of the United States, even if Barack Obama's parents were both non-U.S. citizens who hadn't even set foot in the country until just before he was born, he'd still qualify as a natural-born citizen.Some have claimed that Barack Obama's Hawaiian birthplace doesn't qualify him as a natural-born citizen because Hawaii was not yet a state when he was born. This claim is wrong: Hawaii was admitted as the 50th state almost two years before Barack Obama's birth there. So basically, these people who are claiming he's not a legitimate citizen don't have a leg to stand on. Just another conspiracy theory. I'm suprised people can be duped into signing a petition like that.

For clarification only: Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution covers the Office of the President. Within that section it states: "No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

The "at the time of the Adoption of the Constitution" and "fourteen Years a Resident" was concerned with the fact that all of the initial candidates for President were British citizens prior to the ratification of the Constitution and thus not "natural born Citizens. "

Since the Constitution did not have a "pre-date" for when someone could be considered natural born, there could be no "natural born" except persons born after the ratification date of the Constitution. Hence, the or a Citizen of... , at the time of...and the fourteen Years.. language.

It's sort of a pain in the
 

:cus: to have to listen to all the ragging on about ones candidate. Although it sorta reminds me of those who ragged about Palin's clothes et al.

Ooopps I didn't mean to infer fair play....I forgot the rules of engagement for partisan politics.

BTK:laugh:

The US Supreme Court is looking into this.
 

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...4212358AAxsLzv

There is a Conference at the US Supreme Court on December 5, 2008, to consider a challenge made about Senator Obama's qualifications to be President. This comes from New Jersey in a case by Leo C. Donofrio against Nina Wells the NJ Secretary of State.

I guess I just don't get the point. Let's say for the sake of argument that for some reason Obama were disqualified. Then Biden would be President. Is that what they are aiming for? Doesn't make sense.

I would think the other alternative is
 

....hypothesizing only.....let's say he is disqualified....I would think the election would be would go back to the "qualified" candidate and McCain wins.

The election is not that the party that wins gets to keep it....I really don't know, but in ANY other event where a contender is disqualified the win goes to the opponent.....like it or not!!!

Anyway if there was even a prayer of a case it would have been pushed very hard prior to the election.

On one of my favorite aspects...it surely must not be an issue.....BECAUSE...if it was the media would have been all over it.....yeah right:1rotfl: The subject being absent from the media is conspiquous(? spelling) by it's absence...eh?

Sorry I could not resist!

BTK

I’m afraid there are a great number of dupes... I mean dopes, in this country.:cryin2:

Well, I wasn't going to weigh into this, but....

The case before the Supreme Court challenges the eligibility of both Mr. Obama and Mr. McCain. Mr. Obama's eligibility is questioned on the content of the Hawaiian birth record which has, under Hawaiian law, been kept access-restricted. Mr. McCain's eligibility is questioned as to whether he is a "native born citizen" (there is no question about him being a "citizen) by virtue of not having been born within any State, but born in a trust territory of US citizens stationed in that territory by government orders.

These are interesting legal challenges. SCOTUS could toss the case, agree to hear all or part, or summarily rule.

Hold it guys, This is being investigated and if there's anything to it we could have a hellava mess..... There is precedence for this kind of scrutiny and it has created havoc twice before in history..............

Now as far as adding your name to a petition on the INTERNET goes ,,,Its a waste of time because an e-mail petition is not acceptable by any governmental organization........

Now if anything does surface about Obama's true origin the democrats have enough money to squash it and bury it....It will never see the light of day..and I'm not so sure that thats a bad thing..
I'm a republican but Obama has done everything right so far , so let give him a fair shot at this ...If he turns out to be another FDR , then we all win..

A prior poster made a remark about her IQ . I have a minor DEGREE in anthropology and by the looks of her forehead I don't think comparing IQ'S is such a good idea, especially if you are sensitive........

rock collector fumar ..............:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Geez Fumar I was getting ready to pull out the I agree sign. Can you imagine The Great Fumar and I agreeing on anything? Then came the comment about my forehead....LOL

I agree with everything above the forehead comment!

It's been picked up by the MSM!
 

It's been picked up by the MSM!
 

On one of my favorite aspects...it surely must not be an issue.....BECAUSE...if it was the media would have been all over it.....yeah right The subject being absent from the media is conspiquous(? spelling) by it's absence...eh?

Sorry I could not resist!

BTK


http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archi...6/1689515.aspx

A Non-Event
 

I'm not a lawyer, but even if the Supreme Court agrees to hear the case--which I think is highly doubtful--they almost certainly wouldn't consider the evidence, hear the arguments, make their decisions and write their briefs before December 15, when the Electoral College votes. And I don't think they're going to permit the U.S. to proceed leaderless, even for a short time, given the critical problems we currently face.

I predict that the Court simply declines to hear the case and it's all over. We'll have a new President in time for a cocktail on the afternoon of December 15!

In a few weeks he has demonstrated remarkable leadership. The Country does not need such devisive (and absolutely insane) distraction. As a Republican I am embarrassed to think that any reasonable member of the GOP would raise this issue at this point. I prefer to believe that this foolish notion surfacing again is likely due to subversive hate groups who have other agendas.