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Guest 07-09-2009 02:36 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 213685)
Bucco....

You cannot, with a straight face, tell me that you are not pro-republican. :shrug:

Are you smoking some funny weed maybe?

This is the laugh of the day. Or maybe the week, month or year.

There have been many laughs of the year but their not from Bucco. I am a conservative but I only voted for Bush because I abhorred Gore and Kerry. You democrats never take responsibility. By that, I mean that you never come up with a good candidate and then you bitch because yours got defeated. The real people in America could not relate to the Dukakis's, Gore's and Kerry's you guys put up there to run.
Don't you think that people would be protesting if Bush decided he wanted to re-shape the USA into some kind socialist France?
As for your remark about Bush not using his veto pen...you have not been listening. True conservatives have been livid about him not using the veto pen. Also, conservatives didn't like the idea of utilizing our military protecting Iraq's borders while ignoring the illegals crossing our own borders.
There...I feel much better now, thank-you.:o

Guest 07-09-2009 02:37 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 213691)
Is this your idea or either an intelligent or factual response? As I have said repeatedly in the forum, I believe that so-called anthropogenic global warming is a hoax. You choose to believe in anthropogenic global warming - that is your right. You may also choose to believe in The Easter Bunny - that is also your right. You have shown equal factual support for both of these beliefs. Again, your right.

What is not your right is to help yourself to my money without demonstrating clear factual need for me to give up what is mine. It remains your right to support the so call 'global warming initiatives.' The easiest and most effective means to do so is to turn off your electricity. If you are unwilling to go this far than at least turn off you AC, unplug your televisions and cancel all your subscriptions. Do a reverse Al Gore and back your beliefs with actions that demonstrate commitment and conviction. Until you choose action, then you remain all talk.

I haven't taken any of your money....you don't believe in global warming and that is your right.

Coal plants put out soot you can see it. Soot harms the lungs.

Guest 07-09-2009 02:43 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 213690)
TODAY, AT THIS MOMENT....yep you are correct !!! BUT...NO MATTER...

My country is first...just so happens that since this political forum has existed we have had THIS congress and THIS President either in the primary or general election.

And as to your smart#$% sarcasm...dont smoke !

Brownies?

Guest 07-09-2009 02:48 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 213696)
Brownies?

OMG I cannot believe you, of all people, are accusing other people of taking drugs.:loco: :a20:

Guest 07-09-2009 03:16 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 213698)
OMG I cannot believe you, of all people, are accusing other people of taking drugs.:loco: :a20:

You got to laugh sometimes....just having fun.:girlneener:

Guest 07-09-2009 04:44 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 213688)
Ok lets talk turkey....My representative, from Colorado Springs, is a Republican. God himself could run but if he had a D behind is name he would lose. This guy doesn't have to run, debate anything to get elected. He has a job for life. The funny thing is even the Repubs didn't want him but he won the primary and there you have it.

My issue is with the hypocritical nature of politics...not you...politics. Eight years ago my people were stunned with the turn of events. Whenever, and this is personal experience, we said anything about Bush we got. But he is the President and Commander and Chief he deserves respect. It only got worse after Iraq. Protesting against the war was a blood sport....

Now look at what people say here in this forum? All kinds of claims...this thread is how Obama is killing the American Dream. Where is the respect for the President now? So someone will reply....you all hated Bush so its ok.

Hypocrites....it will never end.

My distaste for 15-20-30-40-year congresspersons holds true for all of them, party irrespective.

As far as commentary for/against any administration, my thanks to the Founding Fathers and the First Amendment. In my lifetime I can't remember any president not getting verbally slammed to some degree. It seems to go with the office, and every candidate knows that today's giant is tomorrow's gnat. And since no president (at least in my lifetime) has sainthood nomination in his future, sometimes there's actually fire where there is smoke.

Guest 07-09-2009 05:01 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 213688)
Ok lets talk turkey....My representative, from Colorado Springs, is a Republican. God himself could run but if he had a D behind is name he would lose. This guy doesn't have to run, debate anything to get elected. He has a job for life. The funny thing is even the Repubs didn't want him but he won the primary and there you have it.

My issue is with the hypocritical nature of politics...not you...politics. Eight years ago my people were stunned with the turn of events. Whenever, and this is personal experience, we said anything about Bush we got. But he is the President and Commander and Chief he deserves respect. It only got worse after Iraq. Protesting against the war was a blood sport....

Now look at what people say here in this forum? All kinds of claims...this thread is how Obama is killing the American Dream. Where is the respect for the President now? So someone will reply....you all hated Bush so its ok.

Hypocrites....it will never end.

This part of your post....

"Eight years ago my people were stunned with the turn of events."


YOUR PEOPLE....I do not believe I hear folks talk like that and almost every post you make is dripping with this attitude. YOUR PEOPLE....you do know that party is simply a matter of registration and not some kind of birthright ?

YOUR PEOPLE....I cannot even imagine saying something like that about any political party or movement !

On behalf of THOSE PEOPLE..thank you for taking the time to join us !

Guest 07-09-2009 05:08 PM

:beer3: Like a nice big family....:beer3: lol

Guest 07-09-2009 07:23 PM

Well, at least this family talks with each other..... :beer3:

Guest 07-09-2009 07:28 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 213755)
Well, at least this family talks with each other..... :beer3:

LOL Here is a little entertainment


http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?v=Gd4zuznzkU

I loved the part of hunting for Tina Fey.

Guest 07-09-2009 10:14 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 213727)
My distaste for 15-20-30-40-year congresspersons holds true for all of them, party irrespective...

Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out how a young President in office for only 170 days has been able to overturn or reverse the well-run, admired and respected system of governance put in place by all those multiple term members of Congress who have been serving us in some cases for decades.

If Obama is that good, we picked the right guy!

Guest 07-09-2009 10:22 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 213777)
Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out how a young President in office for only 170 days has been able to overturn or reverse the well-run, admired and respected system of governance put in place by all those multiple term members of Congress who have been serving us in some cases for decades.

If Obama is that good, we picked the right guy!

Who is WE? His popularity is going south real fast and there will be deniers everywhere saying that they never voted for the guy. Just like Carter. How the heck did Carter become president when no one voted for him? Must be some kind of voo doo magic.

Guest 07-09-2009 10:44 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 213777)
Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out how a young President in office for only 170 days has been able to overturn or reverse the well-run, admired and respected system of governance put in place by all those multiple term members of Congress who have been serving us in some cases for decades.

If Obama is that good, we picked the right guy!

You didn't need 170 minutes to see where this socialist was coming from. I guess our congress is no smarter the the millions who blindly voted for him. Of course alot of the fools were only voting against Bush . Somebody forgot to tell them that Bush didn't run. I guess all them advertising ads that said McCain=Bush worked. Subliminal....like in the movie theaters they would put popcorn between the frames on the screen and your mind would have you go buy some popcorn. Yes....vote Obama...change...

Guest 07-10-2009 06:52 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 213734)
This part of your post....

"Eight years ago my people were stunned with the turn of events."


YOUR PEOPLE....I do not believe I hear folks talk like that and almost every post you make is dripping with this attitude. YOUR PEOPLE....you do know that party is simply a matter of registration and not some kind of birthright ?

YOUR PEOPLE....I cannot even imagine saying something like that about any political party or movement !

On behalf of THOSE PEOPLE..thank you for taking the time to join us !

Give it up....we all know who your people are and you admitted it in a previous post.

Guest 07-10-2009 07:11 AM

I changed my mind and decided not to go there - need to stay out of politcal - it is just out of control.

Guest 07-10-2009 07:21 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 213800)
Give it up....we all know who your people are and you admitted it in a previous post.

DOUBLE WOW !! simply amazing

Guest 07-10-2009 07:36 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 213803)
I changed my mind and decided not to go there - need to stay out of politcal - it is just out of control.

Good move. Click on ANY thread in the political chit chat forum and they ALL turn out the same very quickly.

Guest 07-10-2009 08:00 AM

Methinks some of ye have too short a memory. Do you also remember
 
the Bush whackers who could turn a bad weather weather day discussion into a diatribe on why it was Bush's fault???? And they still do.....no matter the subject.
In addition, since some have their choice now in the WH, the very same who had a comment on every aspect of the then reigning administration, and went to Bush whacking daily like a religion....are conspicuous by their absence and lack of commentary about today's affairs.

The excuse of the the tone and attitude of the thread keep one away is pure unadulterated BS....it didn't bother any of them during the Bush administration or the BHO campaign. And just like all the other forums, when you see something that is not to one's liking....just git along to the next one....you are certain to find something ye likes.

btk

Guest 07-10-2009 08:06 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 213811)
the Bush whackers who could turn a bad weather weather day discussion into a diatribe on why it was Bush's fault???? And they still do.....no matter the subject.
In addition, since some have their choice now in the WH, the very same who had a comment on every aspect of the then reigning administration, and went to Bush whacking daily like a religion....are conspicuous by their absence and lack of commentary about today's affairs.

The excuse of the the tone and attitude of the thread keep one away is pure unadulterated BS....it didn't bother any of them during the Bush administration or the BHO campaign. And just like all the other forums, when you see something that is not to one's liking....just git along to the next one....you are certain to find something ye likes.

btk

I would add to your great comments BTK, that if you take the time AND WANT TO KNOW THINGS, read some of the threads on health care and the stimulus and perhaps you will learn something or have the time to read some of the links that will provide new horizons on issues that face this country.

Dont be one that only posts if the subject is Sarah Palin....read the threads....discard what youdont like but maybe, just maybe you will learn something. I learn or get links to learn from this forum each and every day !

Guest 07-10-2009 08:48 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 213803)
I changed my mind and decided not to go there - need to stay out of politcal - it is just out of control.

I have been dipping into the archives here and was reading a few this morning from September. What a contrast. The Obama is great...McCain-Palin are fools posts are everywhere. There was one woman, in particular, that was gleefully mocking Palin and praising Obama as the second coming on a daily basis. Most of them are surprisingly absent lately.

Interesting reading....
Another great thread about USA hated around the world...Some real great insights with only one person...well...read it and see ....

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...ad.php?t=12825 Great post by Steve Z.

Guest 07-10-2009 01:48 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 213805)
DOUBLE WOW !! simply amazing

So in your mind being pro-republican is ok but being pro-democrat is not.

If you can find a Republican who is for:

National Healthcare Insurance
Equal Rights for all citizens
Protects the Environment
Balances Business needs with the needs of the worker bees


Then I will vote for them....

Guest 07-10-2009 02:12 PM

It is fun every now and then to dip in here and read the post. There are a few posters that know more than anyone in office. Kinda makes you wonder why they are not in office fixing the problem they know so much about.

Instead of Political, need to rename and call the Bear Pit

Guest 07-10-2009 02:19 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 213877)
It is fun every now and then to dip in here and read the post. There are a few posters that know more than anyone in office. Kinda makes you wonder why they are not in office fixing the problem they know so much about.

Instead of Political, need to rename and call the Bear Pit

Seems rather tame as compared to a few months ago. I wasn't here but it is interesting to go back and read the older threads.

Guest 07-10-2009 02:51 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 213873)
So in your mind being pro-republican is ok but being pro-democrat is not.

If you can find a Republican who is for:

National Healthcare Insurance
Equal Rights for all citizens
Protects the Environment
Balances Business needs with the needs of the worker bees


Then I will vote for them....



In my mind being pro USA is ok and being pro ANYPARTY is not !!!


You are so entrenched with YOUR feelings, you ignore everyone elses.

I am opposed to Obama...HAVE BEEN SINCE DAY ONE. I have been critical of this congress and the ENTIRE CONGRESS..not one party.

YOU read my posts with your party hat on.....my posts are just what they say they are. This congress (BOTH PARTIES..do I need to make that clear each time) in concert with this President are what I am against.

This political forum just became available at primary time (or that is when I discovered it) thus you read only SINCE THEN and those I oppose are the guys in the news in case you had not noticed.

I strongly object to people who use expressions like YOUR PEOPLE, or MY PEOPLE...I cannot relate to someone who thinks like that and that kind of attitude actually scares me !!

I hope that is clearer to you now...I was against MUCH of what President Bush did but guess what...HE IS NOT THE PRESIDENT ANY MORE and HE IS NOT THE BIRTH OF EVERY SINGLE PROBLEM THAT EXISTS IN THE WORLD thus your constant hammering of BUSH this and BUSH that gets old rather fast ! You can say what you want about Clinton....but you sure didnt hear any of that from me and your barbed comments have been aimed at ME !

Guest 07-10-2009 08:53 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 213893)
In my mind being pro USA is ok and being pro ANYPARTY is not !!!


You are so entrenched with YOUR feelings, you ignore everyone elses.

I am opposed to Obama...HAVE BEEN SINCE DAY ONE. I have been critical of this congress and the ENTIRE CONGRESS..not one party.

YOU read my posts with your party hat on.....my posts are just what they say they are. This congress (BOTH PARTIES..do I need to make that clear each time) in concert with this President are what I am against.

This political forum just became available at primary time (or that is when I discovered it) thus you read only SINCE THEN and those I oppose are the guys in the news in case you had not noticed.

I strongly object to people who use expressions like YOUR PEOPLE, or MY PEOPLE...I cannot relate to someone who thinks like that and that kind of attitude actually scares me !!

I hope that is clearer to you now...I was against MUCH of what President Bush did but guess what...HE IS NOT THE PRESIDENT ANY MORE and HE IS NOT THE BIRTH OF EVERY SINGLE PROBLEM THAT EXISTS IN THE WORLD thus your constant hammering of BUSH this and BUSH that gets old rather fast ! You can say what you want about Clinton....but you sure didnt hear any of that from me and your barbed comments have been aimed at ME !


You may object to the phrase Your people and my people..perhaps you prefer peeps. But I have the right to express myself using those terms if I like.

As for this:

your barbed comments have been aimed at ME....

I might remind you of the nasty's you have aimed at me or have you forgotten.

Guest 07-11-2009 12:21 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 213803)
I changed my mind and decided not to go there - need to stay out of politcal - it is just out of control.

I feel the same way too.

Guest 07-11-2009 12:35 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 213507)
Give me a break...healthcare in the US is in sad shape. Something needs to be done. The Cap and Trade only reverses the damage that was done by the Bush administration.

And how many of you who complain are receiving Social Security and are covered by Medicare? Both are socialistic programs....


YOU GO GIRL :agree:

Guest 07-11-2009 01:12 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 213893)
In my mind being pro USA is ok and being pro ANYPARTY is not !!!


You are so entrenched with YOUR feelings, you ignore everyone elses.

I am opposed to Obama...HAVE BEEN SINCE DAY ONE. I have been critical of this congress and the ENTIRE CONGRESS..not one party.

YOU read my posts with your party hat on.....my posts are just what they say they are. This congress (BOTH PARTIES..do I need to make that clear each time) in concert with this President are what I am against.

This political forum just became available at primary time (or that is when I discovered it) thus you read only SINCE THEN and those I oppose are the guys in the news in case you had not noticed.

I strongly object to people who use expressions like YOUR PEOPLE, or MY PEOPLE...I cannot relate to someone who thinks like that and that kind of attitude actually scares me !!

I hope that is clearer to you now...I was against MUCH of what President Bush did but guess what...HE IS NOT THE PRESIDENT ANY MORE and HE IS NOT THE BIRTH OF EVERY SINGLE PROBLEM THAT EXISTS IN THE WORLD thus your constant hammering of BUSH this and BUSH that gets old rather fast ! You can say what you want about Clinton....but you sure didnt hear any of that from me and your barbed comments have been aimed at ME !

Bucco, you are absolutely right. You know the left...when there is no facts to back up their propaganda...they revert to name calling. Typical.

Guest 07-11-2009 02:45 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 214094)
Bucco, you are absolutely right. You know the left...when there is no facts to back up their propaganda...they revert to name calling. Typical.

OK, I got it about the left's tactics - So then the right's tactics are then to make sweeping generalizations? How about the middle?

Guest 07-11-2009 02:48 PM

Middle in America....sadly...just plain uninvolved : (
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1214507/


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