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Guest 08-20-2011 02:50 PM

1, President Obama was never and still is not qualified by ability to be President. He was not qualified to be a senator by ability either. This says nothing about the man personally...he seems to be a good man and a family man, but he is in and has been in so far over his head. Anyone who reads his 2 auto biographies (can you believe he wrote two book about himself in that short time) and note even the descrepencies in the books, reads the archives of the Chicago newspapers, reads about WHO and WHAT his training was, realizes that he NEVER EVER ONCE managed anything would know this kind of presidency was coming.

2. Those who feel somehow compelled to throw stones at all the females who fnd them selves in headlines worry me. I know of no females who I would endorse either as President of Vice President but having said that...lets be fair.....any gaffe by a woman seems to be treated 125% more serious than any man's gaffes...and we have a President and Vice President who certanly have made their share. We critque Bachmann on farm susidies, yet if you read even a little about our Vice President or the Senate leader, and I pick them ONLY as an example as they surely are not in an exclusive club,and you will have lots of reading on the same stuff YET NEVER A WORD.
NOT MANY came on here and went after Charlie Rangel...a tax cheat who was working on our tax code but we do to this woman who is not even running for office. I dont see how you can justify that !!!

Guest 08-20-2011 03:43 PM

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And there you go again... Calling names. "no-nothing president" And... I think you mean... Know nothing.


If Obama discovered the cure for cancer, your thread would read, "Obama puts doctors out of business" - If he walked on water, your thread would read "Obama can't swim". :D


If, if, if...................just one positive accomplishment that actually benefitted the state of the union would be nice. Sorry, I can't think of one. Oh, and to offset some responses...........I want proof of the action, not just words.

Guest 08-20-2011 04:24 PM

Speaking Of Hillary...
 
Does anyone think she'll re-up for Secretary of State if Obama is re-elected?

Better yet, will she hang around until the end of the first term? If she bailed during the "election season", that might be more than even a $1 billion campaign fund could overcome.

Guest 08-20-2011 06:18 PM

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If, if, if...................just one positive accomplishment that actually benefitted the state of the union would be nice. Sorry, I can't think of one. Oh, and to offset some responses...........I want proof of the action, not just words.


*laughing* Richie... I tried to mess with you on another thread when you said you liked to mess with the Dems... And this is the one that got you??? :D

OK.. That was really meant as a joke... But.... to answer your question. I don't know how he can do anything when the republicans refuse to pas anything he tries to do and continue to walk out on their own bills and policies... What's that about????

Just makes me want to put more Dems in to see what He can do....:D

Guest 08-20-2011 06:29 PM

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*laughing* Richie... I tried to mess with you on another thread when you said you liked to mess with the Dems... And this is the one that got you??? :D

OK.. That was really meant as a joke... But.... to answer your question. I don't know how he can do anything when the republicans refuse to pas anything he tries to do and continue to walk out on their own bills and policies... What's that about????

Just makes me want to put more Dems in to see what He can do....:D

I'm not upset at all Angie, just continuing the conversation. Obama had 2 years with unassailable dominance with a Democrat controlled House and Senate. The Republicans could hardly get a word in edgewise. Obama did get things accomplished, just nothing to advance "the state of the union", which was my premise.

Obama has accomplished things in service to his vision of the new progressive socialist state he is working to create and shove down the throat of the American people in direct violation of our Constitutional protections; and in effect, that is how he is damaging the state of the union.

You want more Democrats?; you don't think the country has been damaged enough?

Guest 08-20-2011 06:39 PM

The democrats have done enough damage, thank you. It will take many years and many bill reversals to set us on course again, if it isn't too late.

Guest 08-20-2011 07:10 PM

If you keep saying that he has done nothing then why will it take years for your boys to erase his agenda and many years and many bill reversals?

Guest 08-20-2011 07:11 PM

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This current regime does nothing but blame and throw people under the bus. He apologizes for the greatest Nation in history and claims we are not exceptional. Tell that to the older people in Europe whom we saved in WWII.

Angiefox10~ Get past the "name calling"! Can you not respond to the most valuable point in the post by Villagegolfer?

Guest 08-20-2011 07:18 PM

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If you keep saying that he has done nothing then why will it take years for your boys to erase his agenda and many years and many bill reversals?

He has done nothing to contain spending. He has not even put a budget into action, including the first 2 years when there were no Republicans to stop him from doing what is required of him, the Senate and the House!
What he has done is run up the debt. He and his party have spent like drunken sailors!! I believe that is what will take years to reverse...for starts.

Guest 08-20-2011 07:43 PM

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I'm not upset at all Angie, just continuing the conversation. Obama had 2 years with unassailable dominance with a Democrat controlled House and Senate. The Republicans could hardly get a word in edgewise. Obama did get things accomplished, just nothing to advance "the state of the union", which was my premise.

Obama has accomplished things in service to his vision of the new progressive socialist state he is working to create and shove down the throat of the American people in direct violation of our Constitutional protections; and in effect, that is how he is damaging the state of the union.

You want more Democrats?; you don't think the country has been damaged enough?


Naw... I didn't think you would be... That's why I was messing with you. I wouldn't do it if I really thought it would upset you.

As to your concerns. The way I see it is the debt came from previous wars from Bush. When Mr. Bush took office, we had a surplus. After two wars we were in debt. I didn't think Mr. Obama would be able to get us out of debt in the short amount of time that he was in. I don't think he is trying to get us to become a "socialist state" but I do think he went about the Health Care issue all wrong. I also think his time was miss directed, he should have spent that time on jobs. In that I agree....

As to our problems now... I am very upset with the republicans. When they walk out on job plans that they created because Mr. Obama says they are good. I'm sorry... I take issue with that! And then to top it off with the last debacle concerning the Debt Ceiling. It was a dangerous game they played that isn't playing out well.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Stocks...&asset=&ccode=

"Since July 21, the market has gone from one crisis to another, and the weakening U.S. economy has been at the heart of the selling. In late July, the concern was the debt debate going on in Washington. In early August, it was the downgrade of the U.S. debt rating by Standard & Poor's. Since then, worries about the impact of the downgrade have faded, and growing evidence that the economy is slowing has driven stocks down."

It really seems to me that the Republicans are trying to sabotage Mr. Obama and they don't care who they hurt to do it. It doesn't make me want to vote for any one of them. You see... That's my 401 K they are messing with and as I've said over and over again.. I'm not a party person... I'm in this for me.

Does that answer your question?

Guest 08-20-2011 07:44 PM

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Angiefox10~ Get past the "name calling"! Can you not respond to the most valuable point in the post by Villagegolfer?

Did he ask me a question?

Guest 08-20-2011 07:45 PM

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If you keep saying that he has done nothing then why will it take years for your boys to erase his agenda and many years and many bill reversals?

I stand corrected. He has done nothing good. Okay?

Guest 08-20-2011 07:48 PM

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Did he ask me a question?

Oh, I thought this was an intelligent discussion, where each person responds to important points that the other makes. Did he ask you to comment on his know nothing adjective?

Guest 08-20-2011 07:56 PM

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He has done nothing to contain spending. He has not even put a budget into action, including the first 2 years when there were no Republicans to stop him from doing what is required of him, the Senate and the House!
What he has done is run up the debt. He and his party have spent like drunken sailors!! I believe that is what will take years to reverse...for starts.

I'm not sure where the idea that Mr. Obama didn't submit a budget came from but that is not true.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Un...federal_budget

As to spending... Would much of our spending be going to wars?

http://www.federalbudget.com/

I realize you weren't talking to me and my apologies to the poster you were speaking to. I just had the answers to this and I'm sure you would want to know the truth so you don't make statements that aren't true in the future. I know I would....:D

Guest 08-20-2011 07:58 PM

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Oh, I thought this was an intelligent discussion, where each person responds to important points that the other makes. Did he ask you to comment on his know nothing adjective?

Was everyone supposed to respond to EVERY point?

Clearly there is a point YOU would like to make... Why don't YOU make it.

Guest 08-20-2011 08:03 PM

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I'm not sure where the idea that Mr. Obama didn't submit a budget came from but that is not true.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Un...federal_budget

As to spending... Would much of our spending be going to wars?

http://www.federalbudget.com/

I realize you weren't talking to me and my apologies to the poster you were speaking to. I just had the answers to this and I'm sure you would want to know the truth so you don't make statements that aren't true in the future. I know I would....:D


I did not say that he did not submit a budget..."He has not even put a budget into action, including the first 2 years when there were no Republicans to stop him from doing what is required of him, the Senate and the House!"

As far as spending going to wars...Obama not only didn't get us out of Iraq (as he promised in his campaign), but he took us into an additional war in Libya!

Guest 08-20-2011 08:07 PM

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Was everyone supposed to respond to EVERY point?

Clearly there is a point YOU would like to make... Why don't YOU make it.


No, I don't know of any rules that requires everyone to respond to EVERY point. I think my point is, I am just surprised that a person who uses so many empassioned font sizes and styles, went for the easy point...

Guest 08-20-2011 08:09 PM

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I did not say that he did not submit a budget..."He has not even put a budget into action, including the first 2 years when there were no Republicans to stop him from doing what is required of him, the Senate and the House!"

As far as spending going to wars...Obama not only didn't get us out of Iraq (as he promised in his campaign), but he took us into an additional war in Libya!


And THERE we agree.... He said he would and he didn't!

Guest 08-20-2011 08:14 PM

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And THERE we agree.... He said he would and he didn't!

:beer3:

Guest 08-20-2011 08:21 PM

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As to your concerns. The way I see it is the debt came from previous wars from Bush. When Mr. Bush took office, we had a surplus. After two wars we were in debt. I didn't think Mr. Obama would be able to get us out of debt in the short amount of time that he was in.

"The way you see it" is way wrong Angie. Obama racked up more debt in one year than Bush did in 5 years. Numbers.......the bane of the leftist.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY2ntAF6j0c[/ame]

Guest 08-20-2011 08:29 PM

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"The way you see it" is way wrong Angie. Obama racked up more debt in one year than Bush did in 5 years. Numbers.......the bane of the leftist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY2ntAF6j0c

Thanks for the link!!! That was an eye opener and I got it!! I ask for links and not opinions and that's what you gave me! I thank you!! I clearly didn't know what I was talking about!

:bowdown:

Guest 08-20-2011 09:41 PM

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If you keep saying that he has done nothing then why will it take years for your boys to erase his agenda and many years and many bill reversals?

The US is teetering on the brink of economic disaster. Oh yes, President Obama has done a whole lot.

Guest 08-20-2011 09:49 PM

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The US is teetering on the brink of economic disaster. Oh yes, President Obama has done a whole lot.

To your point Barefoot...

I remember when Mr. Bush was leaving office.... Corporations were on the edge of closing... People were being laid off and losing their homes... Building and construction had stopped...

In my office, we had no work and were waiting to see if GM would get a bail out as it would affect us as well as most other corporations in the US if they went under. I know people didn't like the bail outs. I don't think they realized how many people would have lost their jobs had it NOT happened.

Scary times.

I haven't felt like that since Obama got into office.... Oh wait... Until the Debt Ceiling Debacle. The stock market is going down.... We are losing work and there may be lay offs.... My husband said his company who was going great guns said they are losing orders and may haveto start laying off.

Guest 08-20-2011 10:03 PM

Back to O'Donnell ... I find her absolutely fascinating, and not in a good way.
Her interview with Piers Morgan was classic O'Donnell. She has an uncanny ability to spin and twist everything that happens to her. I think she actually believes her own spin! Scary lady.

Guest 08-20-2011 10:07 PM

Barefoot, you are 100% correct. I think it would be hilarious if no one showed up Tuesday at Barnes & Noble to buy her book.

Guest 08-20-2011 10:09 PM

May I ask a serious question? I have been very busy lately and I haven't followed the news like I normally do. Why are we discussing Christine O'Donnell in political? Is she running for office again? Is there something I've missed?

Guest 08-20-2011 10:58 PM

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May I ask a serious question? I have been very busy lately and I haven't followed the news like I normally do. Why are we discussing Christine O'Donnell in political? Is she running for office again? Is there something I've missed?

She wrote a book. Agreed to be interviewed by the dreadful (IMHO) Piers Morgan on his show to promote the book, and all he wanted to talk about were her views on sex; especially masturbation. She tried to steer the conversation off his sex obsessed questions; he got snarky; she walked off. End of story. She's going to be signing books at B & N in TV.

Guest 08-20-2011 11:00 PM

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She wrote a book. Agreed to be interviewed by the dreadful (IMHO) Piers Morgan on his show to promote the book, and all he wanted to talk about were her views on sex; especially masturbation. She tried to steer the conversation off his sex obsessed questions; he got snarky; she walked off. End of story. She's going to be signing books at B & N in TV.

And that is political? Seems more suited to Talk About Books. Just MHO. Oh, and thank you Richie for answering.

Guest 08-20-2011 11:04 PM

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Barefoot, you are 100% correct. I think it would be hilarious if no one showed up Tuesday at Barnes & Noble to buy her book.

I don't even know her but after reading some posts here, I hope she sells a million books.:thumbup:

Guest 08-21-2011 07:35 AM

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OK, it's time for more bashing of Republican women. Let's have at it.

Generally "Republican Women" should not be bashed. However for some of them it is well earned. In fact some of them are an insult to the many very competent and informed female Republican politicians, but the right wingers like Michelle Bachman and Christine O'Donnell champion the adage of if the shoe fits then wear it. Dumb and Dumber are coming to The Villages, surprise surprise

Guest 08-21-2011 08:25 AM

Why do you call them dumb, because you don't like their politics? I do not like Barack Hussein Obama's politics but I would not call him dumb. He knows what he is doing by destroying the USA within.

Guest 08-21-2011 09:41 AM

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Why do you call them dumb, because you don't like their politics? I do not like Barack Hussein Obama's politics but I would not call him dumb. He knows what he is doing by destroying the USA within.

"Had Americans been able to stop obsessing over the color of Barack Obama's skin and instead paid more attention to his cultural identity, maybe he would not be in the White House today. The key to understanding him lies with his identification with his father, and his adoption of a cultural and political mindset rooted in postcolonial Africa.

Like many educated intellectuals in postcolonial Africa, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. was enraged at the transformation of his native land by its colonial conqueror. But instead of embracing the traditional values of his own tribal cultural past, he embraced an imported Western ideology, Marxism.
I call such frustrated and angry modern Africans who embrace various foreign "isms", instead of looking homeward for repair of societies that are broken, African Colonials. They are Africans who serve foreign ideas.

The tropes of America's racial history as a way of understanding all things black are useless in understanding the man who got his dreams from his father, a Kenyan exemplar of the African Colonial.

Before I continue, I need to say this: I am a first generation born West African-American woman whose parents emigrated to the U.S. in the 1970's from the country now called Nigeria. I travel to Nigeria frequently. I see myself as both a proud American and as a proud Igbo (the tribe that we come from -- also sometimes spelled Ibo). Politically, I have always been conservative (though it took this past election for me to commit to this once and for all!); my conservative values come from my Igbo heritage and my place of birth. Of course, none of this qualifies me to say what I am about to -- but at the same time it does.

My friends, despite what CNN and the rest are telling you, Barack Obama is nothing more than an old school African Colonial who is on his way to turning this country into one of the developing nations that you learn about on the National Geographic Channel. Many conservative (East, West, South, North) African-Americans like myself -- those of us who know our history -- have seen this movie before. Here are two main reasons why many Americans allowed Obama to slip through the cracks despite all of his glaring inconsistencies:..."

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/..._colonial.html

Guest 08-21-2011 12:26 PM

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Generally "Republican Women" should not be bashed. However for some of them it is well earned. In fact some of them are an insult to the many very competent and informed female Republican politicians

:agree:

Guest 08-21-2011 01:51 PM

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OMG....What the heck is wrong with learning and admitting from your life experience that you were wrong on a particular stance????

And if somebody realizes they were wrong about a stance, why would you not want them to be authentic and admit that publicly?? Do you prefer that Megyn Kelly hide the fact that she learned by life experience--not in law school--that a new mother needs time to heal and bond, and time to get thru the months (not weeks) of sleep deprivation????

A lot of us happen to respect people who are mature enough to admit we were wrong previously!!

And by the way, those of us who have given birth now look back and sometimes say to ourselves, "OMG......I actually thought I knew everything there was to know about parenting and child care, before I had kids. Looking back, I didn't know ANYTHING!!"

Honest people admit they were brought to their knees by new motherhood, and that surviving the relentless 24/7 work at home as a new mother is when you truly "get your degrees".

Except she never came out and said "I've changed my opinion". She hasn't exactly gone out of her way to try and talk other conservatives over to her new side. In fact, she makes no mention of her former stance at all when defending maternity leave. At no point does she even admit that she used to have a stance contrary to her current one. It's like a MILD form of 1984 Newspeak.

If Megan came out and said those thing, I *would* respect her. If she DOES feel that way (that she should say something) I can understand one reason why she wouldn't - she'd then be a "flip-flopper" in the eyes of many. Heck, look at the way they treat Romney.

Guest 08-21-2011 03:02 PM

Yes, it is 2011 and so many people have a problem with woman leaders, and the sad part is alot of them that have the problem are so-called women and insecure men.

Guest 08-21-2011 09:14 PM

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"Had Americans been able to stop obsessing over the color of Barack Obama's skin and instead paid more attention to his cultural identity, maybe he would not be in the White House today. The key to understanding him lies with his identification with his father, and his adoption of a cultural and political mindset rooted in postcolonial Africa.

Like many educated intellectuals in postcolonial Africa, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. was enraged at the transformation of his native land by its colonial conqueror. But instead of embracing the traditional values of his own tribal cultural past, he embraced an imported Western ideology, Marxism.
I call such frustrated and angry modern Africans who embrace various foreign "isms", instead of looking homeward for repair of societies that are broken, African Colonials. They are Africans who serve foreign ideas.

The tropes of America's racial history as a way of understanding all things black are useless in understanding the man who got his dreams from his father, a Kenyan exemplar of the African Colonial.

Before I continue, I need to say this: I am a first generation born West African-American woman whose parents emigrated to the U.S. in the 1970's from the country now called Nigeria. I travel to Nigeria frequently. I see myself as both a proud American and as a proud Igbo (the tribe that we come from -- also sometimes spelled Ibo). Politically, I have always been conservative (though it took this past election for me to commit to this once and for all!); my conservative values come from my Igbo heritage and my place of birth. Of course, none of this qualifies me to say what I am about to -- but at the same time it does.

My friends, despite what CNN and the rest are telling you, Barack Obama is nothing more than an old school African Colonial who is on his way to turning this country into one of the developing nations that you learn about on the National Geographic Channel. Many conservative (East, West, South, North) African-Americans like myself -- those of us who know our history -- have seen this movie before. Here are two main reasons why many Americans allowed Obama to slip through the cracks despite all of his glaring inconsistencies:..."

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/..._colonial.html


:agree:

Guest 08-22-2011 07:46 AM

Please stick to the topic of the thread. The question is "Why would you buy a book from Christine O'Connell"?
I understand her book is now on Amazon.com and is listed at around 3,875th in popularity on their listing.

She (and her handlers) must think the uber-conservatives in The Villages are really desparate if they want to buy her book.

Guest 08-22-2011 08:10 AM

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Please stick to the topic of the thread. The question is "Why would you buy a book from Christine O'Connell"?
I understand her book is now on Amazon.com and is listed at around 3,875th in popularity on their listing.

She (and her handlers) must think the uber-conservatives in The Villages are really desparate if they want to buy her book.

In actually Bugs, I dont recall that question at all.

This is the first post of the thread.....

"I read in the Daily Sun that Christine O'Donnell is going to be in The Villages to sell her new book. Amazing that people who make statements like the following actually get others to buy their books. I cannot say for sure the book is ghost-written but I would bet on it - and uber-conservatives will buy the book and O'Donnell will laugh all the way to the bank. It's your money, guys."

You then allowed us a few quotes (with no links but assume they are accurate)

That, to me had NO question attached, simply a statement voicing your opinion. Did I miss something !!

Guest 08-22-2011 09:45 AM

The longer the conversation goes on, the more the usual speciousness of the liberal's argument becomes apparent. This is why the liberal is so quick to anger and then to try to steer the discussion or argument into an alternate direction to put their adversary on the defensive and thus gain some intellectual cover.

Guest 08-22-2011 11:36 AM

Did you miss something, Richie, when you did not see my question? Yes, you did!!

You missed the fact I had not had my second cup of coffee this morning and was not functioning on all cylinders.

As Agent 86 used to say, "Sorry about that, Chief".


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