Well, obama bows to the muslims, why would he want to cut off their funds?

1 - they're drilling in THEIR territorial waters. It just happens that Cuba is 90 miles from Key West so the boundaries are a lot closer to shore than in, say, the Atlantic Ocean. And no, I'm not happy with it AT ALL but I don't see what we can do about it from a legal or practical point.

2 - We had the disasters despite the regulations we already have. LOOSENING those regulations would seem to invite more frequent disasters. I don't think we need that right now. However - if you want to talk about overturning POLICIES concerning what offshore areas would be opened up, I think that's a perfectly valid debate. I guess what I'm saying is that I'm drawing a line between "regulation" and "policy".

3 - "Drill baby drill" does nothing for the long-term. We keep hearing of how new oil leases would take 10 years to get into production. Fine, I can accept that. But I also hear about how it would take FAR less time to build Fischer-Tropsch refineries that turn coal into gasoline, avgas and other liquid fuels. Back around 2006 or so, the governor of Montana said THEIR STATE ALONE had enough coal to supply ALL gas/kerosene/jet fuel needs of our country for the next *150* years. Why hasn't this gotten much traction? The coal->oil process was invented *in the 1920s* (and used by countries who had little or no access to oil like Nazi Germany and South Africa when apartheid had them embargoed by everyone) but the politics are all about oil so that's what we hear about.

As far as "our" natural resources being siphoned off - I would imagine that the US Navy and affiliated contractors will be keeping a close eye on everything that happens in the waters between Cuba and Florida.

Anyone who thinks the price of oil is a supply and demand pricing -WRONG
Oh i remember the price rising because we dont have enough refineries !!!
The big oil companies raise the price at will. when there is pipe line break in some small afican country that supplies .0000001% of the world oil, the price raises 2 dollars a barrel
If we found a cheep reliable sauce of energy tomorrow the world economy would collapse - just like a house of cards

the simple fact(s) of the matter the need and urgency is well known by anybody with a pulse. The ongoing negative effects of our current dependency is a state of the nation level risk. The fixes are known to be long term. The resource availability is known, again to anybody with a pulse.

The oil magnates and investors and politicians want it to stay as-is.....business as usual.

And we the people are content as usual as long as we can get gas for $3 a gallon (remember when we used to say for $1 per gallon?).

The politicians are doing/risking nothing and we are allowing it.....just that simple.

btk

So true BTK :cry: Let's hope that in ten years we aren't saying "hind sight is 20/20"...:cry:

proud dem (moonbat)
 

vg...I'm dyin to hear what party you represent (TP?)..I have trouble understanding some of the rhetoric..Now a reference to MUSLINS...Of course I'm sure there is no racial intent there..lolo

OK Arabs? The Oil Cartel? OPEC? What do you call the people who hold us hostage to oil, in that part of the country? I wonder what they call us?
VOTE NOBAMA 2012.:pepper2:

Open your eyes a bit.

Depending on how you define "oil imports", the following are the top 7 countries we buy oil from and how many thousands of barrels per day (June 2011):

Canada - 2534
Mexico - 1222
Saudi Arabia - 1169
Venezuela - 1077
Nigeria - 853
Iraq - 559
Columbia - 309

Wow - look at all those Arab countries like Canada and Mexico leading the way.

..and by "how you define oil imports", I mean that if you look at JUST crude, the numbers are slightly different. These were numbers for "total petroleum imports"

proud dem (moonbat)
 

vg...too late...you showed the colors guiding your thinking...

proud dem (moonbat)
 

vg...PS. my fine tea party friend

These countries ARE ISLAMIC countries, operating under Sharia law. I guess that makes them Muslims! It's not a nice happy group like USA where Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, etc are all afforded the same respect...


An Arabic word only has one root. The root word for Islam is “al-Silm,” which means “submission” or “surrender.” There is no disagreement about this among Islamic scholars. al-Silm (submission) does not mean the same thing as al-Salaam (peace), otherwise they would be the same word.

Submission and peace can be very different concepts, even if a form of peace is often brought about through forcing others into submission. As the modern-day Islamic scholar, Ibrahim Sulaiman, puts it, "Jihad is not inhumane, despite its necessary violence and bloodshed, its ultimate desire is peace which is protected and enhanced by the rule of law."

isn't the issue/the thread energy independence based? And the myriad of benefits that will come with it...many jobs...lower energy costs...self sufficiency...GOOD FOR AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

btk