Very well put Sam.:agree:

If that Trooper did to our family what he did to her's....we would do the same if not more.
The guy is a nut job, and should have been fired. The Alaskan state Troopers should be ashamed of themselves for protecting that wild, drunk, kid tazering, sorry excuse of a lawman.

He was simply a terrorist.....they could make a movie from it and easily show it on Lifetime or the Oxygen channel.

Frank D.

Good post sam. :agree:

Ha... Yeh, Kerry was ahead in the polls 4 years ago too. Look where it go that loser! Don't put a lot of weight in polls... for either side.

Sour Grapes????
 

You are obviously a Liberal Democrat and are totally out of touch with reality. Did you just make this stuff up or are you repeating what some other tax loving Democrat said????

Sarah has the Liberals heading for the proverbial hills doesn't she?????? McCain may not have been my first choice for a Republican candidate, BUT...he showed phenomenal brilliance in picking Sarah Palin for his running mate. Did you ever think that he is cognizant of his own shortcomings and therefore got someone to stand with him who could really be a source of help and inspiration to him??? I still say she is an answer to the prayers of millions of Americans. She will make a very intelligent, beautiful, fresh, down to earth V.P.

I do have a ticket for tomorrow's event, but really don't like crowds so I think I'll watch it on TV.

Twisted!
 

Wow! We all have the right to our opinions. So here's mine. This is one of the most twisted statements I've heard in a long time. If you are a man, well I believe that NO men should have a vote or a say on what a woman does with her body. And if you are a woman, shame on you! :swear:

It's just wrong on so many levels, I wouldn't know where to start.

I agree... sometimes I just sit here and shake my head over what some people say!

Are you having a "Senior Moment"???? Don't you think Bush inherited a LOT of problems from his Democratic Predeceasor...a DEMOCRAT???!!!

Come on over to the good guys side and help keep us from a Muslim president with a wife that will go down in history and making Hillary Clinton look like Minnie Mouse.

No Sour Grapes Here!
 

Sarah has liberals heading for the hills? Don't make me laugh! She's a flash in the pan and she's dimming already. I'm not worried at all. I'm eagerly awaiting the VP debates. She won't be able to deliver her semi-remembered repeated speech. McCain and brilliance don't even belong in the same sentence. Thanks, but no thanks!

Dismissed!
 

OK, just saying Obama is Muslim completely dismisses anything more you have to say, in my opinion. I'm out of touch with reality? Oh Sweetie! Read the papers. :1rotfl:

Funny how there was NO deficit when Bush took over! Now you, your children and grandchildren will pay the price of the botches of the Bush lies and unregulated administration. Even the governor of McCains home state is supporting OBAMA! HA!! I also agree with Chels, HOW DARE YOU say Obama is muslim!!!! BTW, I am sure Obama has big plans for Hillary. Hillary will most likely be appointed to head the house finance committee!!! Change is coming!!

I find the reaction to Palin, especially among women, to be very interesting. Many disagree with her position on abortion, some vehemently so. Surprisingly, many seem more incensed by her views than McCain's, which as far as I know are about the same. All I can attribute this to is a perceived betrayal of the "sisterhood." And it almost seems beyond politics in that a lot of theoretical conservatives have taken this view.

And the reaction to Palin among democrats is almost comical. Many seem to have forgotten entirely about McCain and are focusing all their attacks on her. And among the posters here on TOTV, the reaction of the lunatic fringe :rant-rave:is downright inane. There have been literally scores of attack posts from the same cadre, generally with little or no substance. (I really can't swear to all their content as I've quit reading certain people.)

Personally I'm not sure about the wisdom of choosing Palin. Unlike a lot of people (including an insulting number of women), I have no problem with a female Veep or Prez. I have no problem with her being a mother, even of a special needs child. I'm not sure about her views as I've not heard them all and they do (and should) get subjugated to McCain's. I'm not wild about her experience, but then none of the four have the CV I'd prefer. I'll undoubtedly vote for McCain, primarily due to the alternative, but regardless, I'll withhold judgment on Palin for a bit.

Lets see, Obama was a community organizer. Palin is a state Governor. Palin has a real job governing and Obama has spent most of his term voting present and running for President.

When comparing qualifications between Obama and Palin it is obvious that Palin has more experience to be the President than Obama does.

GNU, :duck: Isn't McCain running for president? :1rotfl: Don't compare apples to oranges or prudes, or do I mean prunes??
Bring on the debates! Sept. 26th we will see who is better qualified and who can fix the mistakes of the BUSH administration.

Four more years of the same OLD,same OLD, is not what this YOUNG country needs.
Remember, it is Obama vs. McCain !!!!!!

GNU, Isn't McCain running for president? Don't compare apples to oranges or prudes, or do I mean prunes??
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Let me understand this...Rockinronda starts a thread about Gov Palin and then reminds a poster, Gnu, who is posting about the subject of the thread that the election is about McCain and Obama. Of course there has to be the required sarcasm and fun poking,...I mean, what fun would it be without mocking ?

Lets see, Obama was a community organizer. Palin is a state Governor. Palin has a real job governing and Obama has spent most of his term voting present and running for President.

When comparing qualifications between Obama and Palin it is obvious that Palin has more experience to be the President than Obama does.

I stand up with you
 

:agree: Hey Gnu, thanks for taking a stand. I totally agree with YOU. I see you're a Vietnam Vet...THANKS for being a veteran and for fighting for our County. I KNOW you went through "Hell" those years and many were spat upon when they returned....a national disgrace!!! However, I thank you, I admire you and I "gladly stand up next to you" (to quote Lee Greenwood)

GOD BLESS AMERICA, and McCain and Palin our next Prez and VP.

Repeat?
 

GNU, perhaps if you repeat this enough, you'll convince yourself. You clearly won't convince others.

GNU, perhaps if you repeat this enough, you'll convince yourself. You clearly won't convince others.
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Convince ? It is a statement of fact !

Does not mean she would be a better President or even Vice President, but what Gnu is saying is without a doubt a fact !

Fact?
 

FACT (noun)

A thing that is indisputably the case.

I'm afraid this statement of Gnu's and yours, for that matter, just doesn't meet the criteria to qualify it as a fact. Nice try!

Ronda my dear,isn't Congress controlled by theDemocrats?
Who last time I looked had a lower rating in polls than Bush.

Bucco, Yes, I started this thread. I also realize that I sometimes veer off when others make comments that are incorrect. Palin is not running for president. Thank goodness, because I despise her.

Muncle, you are right, she is not a part of 'the sisterhood'.


Gnu, I also respect every man and woman that ever served our country. THANK YOU!

EVERYONE, I agree to disagree.


I will watch the debates. When I come back here, I will keep it short and sweet. I will spend more time enjoying life. I will also be on different political forums where our young people have great ideas and thoughts. The polls don't show their voice. They believe the world will look at us as a diverse multicultural country, without racism, with love and concern of all our people and others throughout the world. Obama is a peaceful, concerned, educated breath of fresh air that will bring the world closer to a peaceful existance. The young folks use cell phones which are not included in polls. Check what the young folks are saying out there in cyberspace, you may learn something. If not things do not change, this country will continue in a downward spiral. OK, I'm done rambling. I'll be back after the 26th!

"Obama is a peaceful, concerned, educated breath of fresh air that will bring the world closer to a peaceful existance."

"Palin is not running for president. Thank goodness, because I despise her."
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Is it just me or does anyone else see the contradiction here ?

Reply
 

You must think that you own your body but you are wrong. God lets you
use it but all things belong to Him and killing another person(born or unborn)
just because it is incovenient is totally wrong. Just because the supreme court legalized abortion it is still against God's law. Slavery was also allowed
in this country and I guess you agree that a master can do anything with his
slaves since it was allowed and no one should tell him what he can do with his own slaves.

Hey.....I'm pro-choice- In the Bedroom.

I do not want to get off topic, so I won't go down that road long. In this day and age there are so many ways NOT to get pregnant. Once you do, you made your choice.

With about 4000 abortions per day, the "rape and incest" argument has to apply in a very small percentage.....far more abortions done out of "taking care of a problem"........done by a greedy industry who cares little about the emotional damage done to the women afterwards.

Frank D.

by Charley James –

“So Sambo beat the bitch!”

This is how Republican Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin described Barack Obama’s win over Hillary Clinton to political colleagues in a restaurant a few days after Obama locked up the Democratic Party presidential nomination.

Did someone say racist?

[I wanted a citation for this post. Here it is from laprogressive.com. We prefer citations when you say this kind of thing. If you don't site your source, and you are not the original author, we may delete your post. Tony]

http://www.laprogressive.com/2008/09...d-mean”/

by Charley James –

“So Sambo beat the bitch!”

This is how Republican Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin described Barack Obama’s win over Hillary Clinton to political colleagues in a restaurant a few days after Obama locked up the Democratic Party presidential nomination.

Did someone say racist?
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So JungleJim....we now believe what an UNIDENTIFIED waitress in a restaurant says and post it as fact, but we deny chronicles of facts accumulated over years about Sen Obama.

WOW...methinks your hate has overwhelmed your clear thinking !

I have read through this post and am shocked by the vitriol displayed at Gov. Palin. It is one thing to disagree with someone's position on the issues, but how can anyone say that they "despise" her? What has she ever done to deserve this? I am not a great admirer of President Clinton, but would sure love to play a round of golf with him. I have admiration for Sen. Obama, however I think he would be a disaster as President, and have every intention of voting for John McCain. Oh, I have nothing against Sen. Biden, as I don’t know much about him. All I am saying is that this discussion is best kept civil.

Palin: "To the families of special-needs children all across this country, I have a message: For years, you sought to make America a more welcoming place for your sons and daughters. I pledge to you that if we are elected, you will have a friend and advocate in the White House."


Palin actually slashed funding for schools for special needs kids by 62%.

Palin: "I told the Congress "thanks, but no thanks," for that Bridge to Nowhere. If our state wanted a bridge, we'd build it ourselves."


Just to reiterate what others have said: Congress' requirement that funds be spent on that bridge (aka the 'earmark') were removed before Sarah Palin became governor. She was therefore in no position to tell Congress anything about the bridge, one way or the other. During her campaign, she said she supported funding for the bridge. Later, she accepted the money -- now not restricted by an earmark -- and used it for other infrastructure projects. In the city Ketchikan, the planned site of the so-called "Bridge to Nowhere," political leaders of both parties said the claim was false and a betrayal of their community, because she had supported the bridge and the earmark for it secured by Alaska's Congressional delegation during her run for governor.
"People are learning that she pandered to us by saying, I'm for this' ... and then when she found it was politically advantageous for her nationally, abruptly changed position.

Palin: "America needs more energy ... our opponent is against producing it."

No -- he plans to develop a lot more energy than John McCain does. It's just that a lot of it is renewable, not carbon-based. Moreover, Obama hasn't skipped the last eight votes on renewable energy.

Palin: "The Democratic nominee for president supports plans to raise income taxes ... raise payroll taxes ... raise investment income taxes ... raise the death tax ... raise business taxes ... and increase the tax burden on the American people by hundreds of billions of dollars.

Well, it all depends whose taxes go up, doesn't it? Most Americans will pay less in taxes under Obama's plan than under McCain's. So they might well be better off.

McCain a winner
 

Junglejim, check your facts on racism. Go to Snopes.com.
Why don't you recognize the fact that BHO is a good talker, offers nothing and is NOTHING but an empty suit.
As the saying goes, empty barrels make the most noise. BHO fits the picture.

by Charley James –

“So Sambo beat the bitch!”

This is how Republican Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin described Barack Obama’s win over Hillary Clinton to political colleagues in a restaurant a few days after Obama locked up the Democratic Party presidential nomination.

Did someone say racist?

[I wanted a citation for this post. Here it is from laprogressive.com. We prefer citations when you say this kind of thing. If you don't site your source, and you are not the original author, we may delete your post. Tony]

http://www.laprogressive.com/2008/09...d-mean”/



Seriously this is your source?


http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/j...ssive-logo.jpg

It isn't better than a third Clinton term. Whethere or not one liked Bill Clinton, the US economy was in a helluva lot better shape then (remember we actually had a "surplus") than it is now after 8 years of Bushenomics.

ROADWARRIOR.....may I ask why you are addressing me with your last post ? You may want to do some rereading and then reply again !

Thanks

No I don't...please explain what you mean....:shrug:
This is just her opinion on both people....not sure what you are getting at.

hahaha...very cute! LOL :icon_wink:

Well, talking about bringing the world to a "peaceful existence" , referrring to Sen Obama as "peaceful" and then immediately DESPISING somebody strikes me as quite a contradiction. But just my opinion which means you will disagree....guess that is how it goes. I dont use words like DESPISE....HATE, etc....and find it rather funny that someone advocating "peace" would have that strong of hatred...quite strange ! But then, a review of the posts on here concerning Gov Palin are pretty much hate filled !

How anyone could HATE somebody they dont even know and only know what the bloggers tell them simply amazes me. I will not vote for Sen Obama but I dont despise or hate him !

Bucco ... I do find it a bit confusing ... "a peaceful existence" and "I despise her" just don't seem to follow the same train of thought.

Well then...I guess that is why we should vote for Obama....so we can stop hating everyone when we are in our more peaceful existance....now we are all just mean and nasty to everyone.....especially poor Sara P.

I think there has been a lot of nasty talk about Palin and McCain....but I also know that Obama has been slammed around the room MANY times!!!

Doble Grrooan

Yep 16,000 tickets to see her, Yep to see her read from a speech that the RNC wants you to hear. The same as any candidate will do.. i will bet you a lifes pay, that if Biden or Obama or McCain or Hillary or anyone that was trying to get into office was to show up here you would get the same result. Heck if GW was to show, you would have the same deal, even as bad as he is people would show up just stand there and here nothing.. But then i guess you would say that he isnt failing either? Just get to he jist of things, who is the better deal. besides how many more times are they going to use the, He (McCain) was a POW and that means he will be the best Commander In Chief we could have. We need to worry more about how will lead our ECONOMY back to the top, not waste more money in IRAQ. Besides although he has the Title Commander in Chief, doesnt mean that is what he does. That is what the Joint Chiefs are for.. Remeber Powell and the Stormin Norman. i served under them in the first Gulf War. Those are the leaders in charge of the Military. I am a Reg Rep, but actually believe i will vote for Obama, since McCain picked Sara. had he picked Mitt to run, they would have my vote. But to pick Sara only because Obama didnt pick Hillary is a slap in the face. You dont have to be a rocket scientist to see that.