My comments had and have nothing to do with religious beliefs.
They have all to do with right and wrong, which is being conveniently avoided.

Nice story about all the "nevers" presented above. None of which address the issue presented .....even if it is legal and you never did all the stuff above....is it OK with you to kill living fetus and harvest their parts??

This will be here in the morning!

There is a difference between legal and OK. Abortions are legal, but not OK. Selling body parts are not only wrong but illegal.

If you believe that you will be judged, but you are not religious, how are you going to be judged?

Your convenient assumptions regarding commentary "based on your religious beliefs" is 100% not true.

How you conveniently reword the intent of the constitution by stating " freedom from YOUR religion".

Let us use your style of posting to state your position?
As long as it is legal...... it is OK to slaughter born and unborn children for the purpose of harvest body parts.

The position that under the guise of allowing those raped or incest impregnated, women also can have an abortion if the sex of the fetus is not the one they preferred. Or allow abortion because of an unwanted pregnancy (birth control). Just to name a couple.

Supporters of across the board abortion entitlement either have absolutely no idea of what is happening within the so called legal rights or conveniently ignore the reality or just plain have no idea what the hell they are talking about (for partisan sake).

All the supporters do (as directed by the party) is wave the right to abortion flag without understanding what PP and the so called legality is really doing.

Another belief from history that involved killing of human beings; that of the Nazi's when they decided life would be better without a jewish presence.

The so called legal abortion and the elimination of the jewish race both involved and involve the extermination of a human being.

Some of us have horrible memories of the piles of bodies awaiting burial when they were discovered at Aushwitz.....we would be frozen in horror or worse if we were able to see the pile of human waste being disposed of by PP.

It is not OK, regardless of any religion or no religion, or in the current PP case, to slaughter a human being.

We are all entitled to our belief......some of us do not and will not accept the prmise of the slaughtering of innocents for profit or convenience.....even if it is erroneously deemed to be legal.

So, what I have gathered from the liberal or possibly two on here is:

Abortion is legal, therefore "Ok."

Baby body parts are used to prolong life (ha,ha) therefore having an abortion and selling the body parts is providing a great service to humanity. So, selling body parts should be embraced and these people should be celebrated as heroes for their willing/unwitting sacrifice.

Christians are bad because they believe in the sanctity of life over the convenience of birth control by abortion.
Conservatives hate women because they won't pay for their birth control.
Conservatives hate women because they do not think that taxpayers should pay for abortion.
Christians are hateful because they do not believe in killing unborn babies.

That about sums it up.

Even I hate to say this but some posts just suggest it is a fair observation:

If the liberal happens to be female they feel they have a louder voice or special position in the matter!

And I am sure I will be called sexist (which is not the intent at all) for referring to the female position.

By the way why is it not sexist when they do?

Just like you can't be a racist if you are black.

They have all to do with right and wrong, which is being conveniently avoided.
Right and wrong as you see it so, you would not have an abortion should you need one. Right and wrong as I see it as well as I have stated I have never had an abortion and can in no way ever see myself making that choice. Where we part ways is you want to impose your definition of right and wrong on others. I do not!

As abortion is legal in the United States....as for the donation of that tissue for medical research, no I am not against that. Fetal tissue research has led to some great discoveries.

Top Discoveries from Fetal Tissue Research - US News

Yep that is what you would think because you will always believe you aka Christians, are being persecuted.

Your beliefs have been the dominated American culture since the 50's and I as a Catholic was visited with ridicule as a child by Christian children. I heard what Christians said when JFK ran and I was told I could not play with a kid by their church going Baptist parents .

As I said we will never come to a consensus a this subject....

Many major advances to science have been made by fetal tissue research. Even Ben Carson has done fetal tissue research.

Get out of your 1950's way of thinking when abortions were illegal in the USA and those getting them were at the mercy of unsanitary conditions often done in motel rooms.

No, the definition of right and wrong is the same, regardless of how you decide to rationalize your opinion. Just because you don't contribute to a murder, if you stand by and watch it happen you are as guilty. Right and wrong defined by statute is often different than right and wrong by moral definition.

You rationalize your morality by saying you have not practiced it. Yet, you then turn around and state that you believe that even though you haven't done it, you have no problem with others doing it. If that is your act of justifying your morality, then so be it.

Keep twisting things till you make it fit!

All I keep hearing is the same tune while not addressing the basic question.

One more time.
Granting abortions for rape or incest. Is it OK to have abortions if not the correct gender; for birth control?
Is it OK to be killing a birthed live fetus on the table for parting out the baby; throwing what is not needed in the trash??? Is that OK?

The actual grotesque murderous process that includes the killing, the slaughtering and trashing of a living being is not discussed openly. There are polite names to make sure it does not offend anybody doing the murdering, processing the murdered beings parts and throwing in the trash the part of that living being that is deemed not needed.

Like the news of the past showing the huge piles of bodies found in post war Germany there needs to be a video or pictures of the live kicking fetus just before it is killed; then an after slaughter one showing the parts being saved for shipment; and the final one of the rest of the killed bodies in the trash.
Maybe then the reality of what is truly being done.....will be acknowledged.

For the abortion radicals it won't matter.

I really don't know what else to say...we are NOT going to agree.

But I will answer this:

I believe women or girls should not be forced to continue the pregnancy. Especially in the case of the rape or incest of a child. My position on abortions for gender selection or birth control pushes the moral limit for me!

As a medical professional at an abortion which produced a live child my morals would not allow the killing of that child. Which should answer your last question.

Thank you.

Dear Guest: Your statement speaks to your mind and heart

Personal Best Regards:

The following is provided to help many who do not know any real numbers about abortions:

Abortion Statistics

If one googles rape and incest abortions there are many pages of links that all present most of the same information. I chose this one because it minimizes rhetoric and focuses on statistical presence.

So much for all the ballyhoo about rape and incest at 1%.
Mostly used for birth control!!!!
Are the numbers being killed every second, hour per day not staggering?

Is it not clear at this point while everybody who supports their position talks about the one percent, very little is said about why most are performed. And the practice is defended as if rape and incest were the drivers of abortion....which they are not.

It is by virtue of the magnitude of the numbers that abortion is a business. A business supported by government funds. A business that thrives on the continued killing of innocents.....for all the wrong reasons.

Wake up America......another scam in the name of doing good!

I forgot the PS....Planned Parenthood is the largest provider of abortions in America....now isn't that a coincidence?

GOVERNMENT FUNDS ARE NOT USED FOR ABORTIONS!!! EVERY BILL PASSED BY CONGRESS INCLUDES A PARAGRAPH BANNING THE USE OF GOVERNMENT FUNDS FOR ABORTION.

So you are ok with forcing women to carry a rapist's child to full term? Seriously?

Abortion is legal in the US and if you don't like it don't have one!!!

Does the government fund Planned Parenthood? Must be a yes as so many in congress in recent weeks were moving to cut their funding.

How one concludes providing the statistic = OK to carry a rapists child is a quite puzzling. Once again shifting the focus from the other 99% and making a case (erroneously) for the 1%.

As for not having an abortion you have made a significant error in gender assignation.

I suppose we could each be addressing the wrong post.

I will sleep easier thinking that may be the case.

Does the government fund Planned Parenthood? Must be a yes as so many in congress in recent weeks were moving to cut their funding.

Are the funds used for abortions....NO!

How one concludes providing the statistic = OK to carry a rapists child is a quite puzzling. Once again shifting the focus from the other 99% and making a case (erroneously) for the 1%. You are just deflecting do you support abortions for women who are raped or a victim of incest?

As for not having an abortion you have made a significant error in gender assignation. ????

I suppose we could each be addressing the wrong post.

I will sleep easier thinking that may be the case.[/QUOTE]

Yes, the government IS funding abortions. If they are funding PP, then they are funding abortions. There is no way to prove that the money that the gov pays PP is used for anything without including abortion. Are the doctors that are performing abortions getting paid through a separate fund? The nurses?

Since you are so stuck on using rape and incest victims as an example of how important it is to fund PP, then you should also understand that those account for about 1% of the total abortions performed.

I wonder what you have against babies that are produced through no fault of their own. Do you feel that babies due to rape or incest are inferior to other babies produced? Do you feel the same way about BLACK babies? Because, as you know there were more black babies aborted last year than were born. And you know the reason that the founder of PP had when PP was originated? It was genocide of blacks. SO, you are backing a very radical organization, similar to the KKK.

So, when you ask us if we believe that rape victims and incest related pregnancies should be brought full term, I answer with "who are you to make that decision for a new life?" That baby could be adopted if not wanted by the mother.

Since Obama's mother was not legally married to his father (Sr was still married in Africa) then Barrack is considered a b@stard child. What if his mother had decided to go the easy way and had aborted him? Personally, I can see the positive of that idea, but that is my personal opinion.

Are you mostly likely a man? Yes!!!

I have answered more than enough questions about my position on this issue. Now you all are just being silly....

There are 1.2 million abortion performed each year which means that 12,000 women would have to bring the child of a rapist to term...if even one woman has to do this it is to much.....

Here are the facts about PP and their funding......

I suggest you look up the Hyde amendment which has been in place since 1976, it was named after Henry Hyde a Republican from the state of IL.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...deral-funding/

Now STOP LYING!!!

The government is NOT funding abortions.

Are you that stupid to think that government funds given to PP are not used for abortions? Really??? How ignorant.

And when you say forcing, what do you mean? Did I get that woman pregnant? Do you hate children that much that you would hold how it was conceived against it? That's pretty mean, isn't it? If someone doesn't like you, does that mean that they have the right to murder you?

Yes, abortion in the U.S. is legal....right now. But, please feel free to attempt to justify it to yourself by saying it is legal. It was once legal to whip a slave, rage them if you own them, etc. But, at least that slave was still alive. You want to deny a child's right to even live. That is pretty callous, and definitely not Christian. Although, liberals aren't Christians anyway, so I shouldn't eve bring that up.

But, do you liberals insist on diverting every post on here, in every thread? The post subject was regarding the selling of body parts. Selling body parts are illegal. Do you want to argue that fact, or are you going to say that even though it is illegal, it's the right thing to do. I want to see you pair that up with your stance on abortion. Abortion is legal, selling body parts is not. Abortion is immoral, and selling body parts is not only immoral but illegal.

Anyway, have a great day/evening/night. Hope your conscience will allow you to sleep. If you do believe in God, I wonder how you will explain your stance to HIM. Not that it is any of my business, but it is an interesting image.

So far I haven't heard much against the rape or incest victims.
So, again, let's set the favorite one that get all the discussion here and everywhere the discussion is ensued....aside.

Now let's see if we can have a reasonable discussion about the other 99% or 1,238,000 abortions that are the crux of the issue.

For the sake of argument and to cover under estimating and any other excuse let's make the given a full 5%. That leaves 1,187,500 unwarranted abortions!!!!

I do not know why this is such a struggle to get across.
We know the partisan talking points limit the capability of a real honest discussion.

1,187,500 needless killings of babies!!!!!!

I have nothing to explain....this conversation is now beneath in level of intelligence!

Liberals hate blacks so they push abortions. The founder of PP wanted to use abortions as her choice of genocide in the inner cities to eliminate the black population. And now liberals are complicit in exterminating black children. More black babies were murdered by abortion last year than were born. That's pretty bad, and just goes to show you that the party of slavery is at it again, under the guise that they are doing it FOR THE WOMEN. It was the women's rights. Why hide it? Admit it unless you are so stupid that you have been fooled too.

You are correct, your conversation is beneath "in" level of intelligence. Your best bet is to leave when you have no valid argument.