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Guest 09-25-2015 05:10 AM

The Pope is a major player so please don't dismiss his message. When a KY clerk speaks for God, the government is blamed for not taking her advice. Now when the Pope speaks for God, some of you are telling him to stay out of government business. Really. The Pope is advising us to pay more attention to the poor and not our purse.

Guest 09-25-2015 05:14 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1119275)
The Catholic Church is dying and this Pope is trying to restore young people's faith in catholicism. Only 22% of the US is catholic, so I think he is attempting to reach a broader audience and attract new, younger people to the Catholic faith by being more open minded and accepting. It cost a lot of money to run a church, so you have to fill those pews...

Dear Guest: I totally agree with you. However by the very nature of his agenda he is defeating that purpose. First men and women of the cloth seem to represent a naive view of the world. The sexual abuse scandal is prima facie proof. Clearly many other organizations had the exact same scandal and did not deal with it sensible.

However, we have my Church hiding pedophiles because they believed faith would cure them. This coming from a church that preaches that God pronounced "many are called but few are chosen". I do not believe God included pedophiles. And so the Pope's stance on homosexuality is confusing to say the least.

The Pope is misled by climate change and American capitalism and it all goes to the nature of religious teaching of going down to the lowest common denominator and so priest and nuns take the vow of poverty and poverty is a constant state of grace and materialism is simply and always bad. Hence the Catholic Church's dislike of the "Protestant Ethic"

I loathe speaking against my Church because overall it has done substantially more good for this world than not. However what we are witnessing in the Catholic Church is the same continuing battle being waged in America. It is traditionalist vis a vis progressives. Progressives seem to lean toward a sliding scale and while it works in some areas it is harmful to others. One of those harmful areas is morality. There are not in my belief vary shades of gray when it comes to morality. Another area deals with progressives wealth redistribution obsession which falls in line with the Pope's agenda

So a Pope who is trying to message a view that is pleasing to everyone so as not to offend anyone is on a fools errand and only reinforces people like me to react with a "say what you mean"or "mean what you say"

The Pope is a humble man and a good man and he does please me when he demonstrates his genuine humility and I will respect and love him for that fact

Personal Best Regards:

Guest 09-25-2015 06:58 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1119294)
Dear Guest: I totally agree with you. However by the very nature of his agenda he is defeating that purpose. First men and women of the cloth seem to represent a naive view of the world. The sexual abuse scandal is prima facie proof. Clearly many other organizations had the exact same scandal and did not deal with it sensible.

However, we have my Church hiding pedophiles because they believed faith would cure them. This coming from a church that preaches that God pronounced "many are called but few are chosen". I do not believe God included pedophiles. And so the Pope's stance on homosexuality is confusing to say the least.

The Pope is misled by climate change and American capitalism and it all goes to the nature of religious teaching of going down to the lowest common denominator and so priest and nuns take the vow of poverty and poverty is a constant state of grace and materialism is simply and always bad. Hence the Catholic Church's dislike of the "Protestant

I loathe speaking against my Church because overall it has done substantially more good for this world than not. However what we are witnessing in the Catholic Church is the same continuing battle being waged in America. It is traditionalist vis a vis progressives. Progressives seem to lean toward a sliding scale and while it works in some areas it is harmful to others. One of those harmful areas is morality. There are not in my belief vary shades of gray when it comes to morality. Another area deals with progressives wealth redistribution obsession which falls in line with the Pope's agenda

So a Pope who is trying to message a view that is pleasing to everyone so as not to offend anyone is on a fools errand and only reinforces people like me to react with a "say what you mean"or "mean what you say"

The Pope is a humble man and a good man and he does please me when he demonstrates his genuine humility and I will respect and love him for that fact

Personal Best Regards:

:thumbup:
Well stated.


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