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ColdNoMore 11-23-2016 03:57 PM

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FACT CHECK, FACT CHECK, FACT CHECK
If the election was based on FACTS, the outcome would have been so different.

"FACT" is the worst four letter word...that Trump and his supporters can imagine.

His supporters would have turned against him instantly, if instead of his famous statement he had said...

"Grab them by the facts"...“You can do anything.” :1rotfl: :1rotfl:

autumnspring 11-23-2016 03:59 PM

Wow would take several books to answer your questions
 
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Please, you sort of lead the charge for "platform of hate".

You couldn't even resist the "biased media" comment, which may be YOUR opinion.

Start a thread on some of the issues facing the country..

"President-Elect Donald Trump took 141 distinct stances on 23 major issues during his bid for the White House.

His campaign's constantly-evolving views -- often championed as a way for Trump to use unpredictability to cut better deals for the nation -- make it difficult glean a political agenda, or even a set of clear, core policy views ahead of his presidency."

The 141 Stances Donald Trump Took During His White House Bid - NBC News

Stop with the race talk...

Ask opinions on wher the new administration migh go with Medicare since it is important to many here...since it seems to be evolving.


It is time to put aside the election results...it is time to govern.

If you truely want to discuss reality, so be it.

I have demonized Trump, admittedly but only in reaction to those who want to canonize him. I much prefer what we might expect in cabinet apps, potential policies, etc.

PS..as you see from the post preceding this. Some will never grow up or find it challenging to discuss issues.

One start for me, as a Western Pa guy, I followed all the discussions in the coal mining industry. How do folks feel ? Will it be brought back to life ?

Will Pelosi withstand competition and remain in charge if the house a Dems ?

Will Giuliani end up anywhere in the new administration ?

Has anyone seen the details on the replacement for Obamacare ?



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You have mentioned medicare. My wife and I just got on to medicare.
Due to my previous income-read that as having worked way more than 40 hours a week and saving for only 45 years. I was self employed so unlike most people who pay 7% to social security, I PAID 13%.
Actually as to the 7% few people realize that your employer pays in the same amount as you do-THAT IS TAX FREE INCOME TO YOU. Due to my previous income which forced me to pay the maximum into social security I now pay the top rate for medicare and have no inflation protection.
The money for medicare comes from what you paid as social security. BUSH added prescription coverage to the already underfunded plan and Obama added OBAMACARE on top of that WITH NO FUNDING-read that as tax to pay for it. The REPUBLICANS object to people being forced to pay for a national health coverage. In my mind, we have all been forced to pay into social security. SADLY PEOPLE MUST BE FORCED TO BE RESPONSIBLE-IE AUTO INSURANCE. We are not prepared to deny medical care to anyone whether they have paid for insurance or not.

FURTHER-it has been implied that China is our largest creditor the fact is we owe slightly more to Japan then to China. More important and /or shocking, together Japan and China hold 20% of our national debt. SOCIAL SECURITY HOLDS 42% OF OUR NATIONAL DEBT. So that TEN TRILLION DOLLARS that Obama added to the national debt was 42% YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY MONEY. Where but in our insane system does the borrower control the rate of interest that UNCLE SAM, COUSIN OBAMA WILL PAY ON THE AMOUNT YOU WERE FORCED TO LEND HIM?

autumnspring 11-23-2016 04:12 PM

Book 2-guliani
 
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Please, you sort of lead the charge for "platform of hate".

You couldn't even resist the "biased media" comment, which may be YOUR opinion.

Start a thread on some of the issues facing the country..

"President-Elect Donald Trump took 141 distinct stances on 23 major issues during his bid for the White House.

His campaign's constantly-evolving views -- often championed as a way for Trump to use unpredictability to cut better deals for the nation -- make it difficult glean a political agenda, or even a set of clear, core policy views ahead of his presidency."

The 141 Stances Donald Trump Took During His White House Bid - NBC News

Stop with the race talk...

Ask opinions on wher the new administration migh go with Medicare since it is important to many here...since it seems to be evolving.


It is time to put aside the election results...it is time to govern.

If you truely want to discuss reality, so be it.

I have demonized Trump, admittedly but only in reaction to those who want to canonize him. I much prefer what we might expect in cabinet apps, potential policies, etc.

PS..as you see from the post preceding this. Some will never grow up or find it challenging to discuss issues.

One start for me, as a Western Pa guy, I followed all the discussions in the coal mining industry. How do folks feel ? Will it be brought back to life ?

Will Pelosi withstand competition and remain in charge if the house a Dems ?

Will Giuliani end up anywhere in the new administration ?

Has anyone seen the details on the replacement for Obamacare ?



"

I lived in NY when Guliani was mayor. YES, THE LIBERALS SCREAMED BLOODY MURDER. Yes, they accused him of racism due to stop and frisk. THE CHANGE WAS DRAMATIC.

Before Guiliani I would see crack vials all over the city; especially around pay phones. In front of the famous library there were people hawking, drugs, sex, weapons etc
Forty Second street was taken over by porn movies, hookers, drug dealers and pan handlers.

When 9/11 happened. We not only lost the world trade center but we lost 3,000 americans. Guliani led the people.
Imagine what would have happened without a strong leader?

ASIDE-the LIBERAL CONTROLLED PRESS questioned TRUMP stating he saw MUSLIMS DANCING FOR JOY about the ATTACK on AMERICA-the world trade center. I SAW THE SAME THING ON THE STREETS OF BROOKLYN.

TexaninVA 11-23-2016 05:52 PM

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"FACT" is the worst four letter word...that Trump and his supporters can imagine.

His supporters would have turned against him instantly, if instead of his famous statement he had said...

"Grab them by the facts"...“You can do anything.” :1rotfl: :1rotfl:

Seeing your post and abnormal fonts ... I'm wondering if you need glasses or is it some other type of help??

TexaninVA 11-23-2016 05:55 PM

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You could never walk in my shoes. They are way too big for your little feet!

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I'm guessing what's actually way too big is your waist and rear end??

Fraugoofy 11-23-2016 11:05 PM

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I'm guessing what's actually way too big is your waist and rear end??

Haha. Good one! I love the playful banter on the political forum. Makes me thankful to be living in Florida's friendliest hometown!

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Don Baldwin 11-24-2016 08:14 AM

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Haha. Good one! I love the playful banter on the political forum. Makes me thankful to be living in Florida's friendliest hometown!

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Really?

I see stupid women cackling...adding nothing of substance...

Just like this post having to explain it to you.

Why don't you ladies go back to the kitchen while the men talk...hurry along sweetie.

Where's the anything goes MEN ONLY forum? Where we can REALLY talk without the name calling and the back biting.

Oh...have a Happy Thanksgiving too.

Fraugoofy 11-24-2016 09:46 AM

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Really?

I see stupid women cackling...adding nothing of substance...

Just like this post having to explain it to you.

Why don't you ladies go back to the kitchen while the men talk...hurry along sweetie.

Where's the anything goes MEN ONLY forum? Where we can REALLY talk without the name calling and the back biting.

Oh...have a Happy Thanksgiving too.

Maybe you should ask Santa for a dictionary and look up the word sarcasm.

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jimbo2012 11-24-2016 09:56 AM

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Maybe you should ask Santa for a dictionary and look up the word sarcasm.

He can't it has a BLACK cover

ColdNoMore 11-24-2016 10:06 AM

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He can't it has a BLACK cover

OK, that was pretty good. :1rotfl:

ColdNoMore 11-24-2016 10:09 AM

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Seeing your post and abnormal fonts ... I'm wondering if you need glasses or is it some other type of help??

That you chase me around like a little puppy dog, is indicative that I'm living inside your head...rent free. ;)

I have to say however...there seems to be a large echo in there. :wave:

MDLNB 11-24-2016 01:10 PM

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That you chase me around like a little puppy dog, is indicative that I'm living inside your head...rent free. ;)

I have to say however...there seems to be a large echo in there. :wave:

There she goes again, living in someone else's head rent free. Typical no-load liberal.

Hey CNM.............Pull my finger.....:a20:


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