I have no desire to nor do I watch listen to or read Glen Beck. What I said was historically accurate including my description of the Wilson presidency and his actions. I do believe that the current Progressive doctrine of an elite making decisions for and looking after the disadvantaged is today's intellectual equivalent of 'carrying the white man's burden'. If you look at history and think about the policies coming out of DC today, you may discover you agree.

So the vast left wing media is denying the true nature of the Progressive Movement and it's links to Marxist principles.

WOW!!; who would have thunk it?

Not buying it. This sounds more accurate that Wilson was taking on Jacksonian principles. Of course, there was a lot of racism in the 1910s. The Founding Fathers were very racist for the most part and also very sexist. The New Freedom: The Progressive Program of President Woodrow Wilson | Suite101.com

The "white man's burden" is more a part of colonialism than progressivism.

The opposite of progressives are the republican candidates that ran in the primary who want to take us back to the 1950's, when women stayed home, there were no birth control pills, abortion was illegal, gays and lesbians were not even acknowledged let alone allowed to marry, only white men were allowed to govern, there was no Medicare or Medicaid or food stamps or Head Start, and everybody liked Ike.

Many posters on this forum long for those good old days, but it is doubtful anybody under the age of 60 would vote to continue those policies. Progressives equal moving forward, conservatives are stuck in the last century.

Excellent posting, JANMCM. :BigApplause:

When you stereotype all conservatives and republicans as "the republican candidates that ran in the primary who want to take us back to the 1950's, when women stayed home", you might want to read a little bit about these women who were wife and mother of one of those candidates, and a candidate herself (see below on Santorum's wife, Bachmann herself, and Romney's mother).

These women are hardly women who "stayed home (barefoot, pregnant and baking pies for the king to come home to his castle)":

"Karen Santorum is one of twelve children. By profession, she is both a nurse and attorney. She received a Bachelor of Science in Nursing degree from Duquesne University, and worked for several years in a Neonatal Intensive Care Unit.

Her Juris Doctorate degree is from the University of Pittsburgh School of Law where she was a Law Review member."
Speakers Access

"Michelle Bachmann was raised by her mother, Arlene Jean (née Johnson), who worked at the First National Bank in Anoka, Minnesota.....

She (Bachmann) graduated from Anoka High School in 1974 and, after graduation, spent one summer working on kibbutz Be'eri in Israel.

In 1978, she graduated from Winona State University with a B.A.

In 1979, Bachmann was a member of the first class of the O. W. Coburn School of Law......

In 1986 Bachmann received a J.D. degree from Oral Roberts University. She was a member of the final graduating class of the law school at ORU, and was part of a group of faculty, staff, and students who moved the ORU law school library to what is now Regent University.

In 1988, Bachmann received an LL.M. degree in tax law from the William & Mary School of Law. From 1988 to 1993, she was an attorney working for the Internal Revenue Service (IRS)......

In 2000, Bachmann defeated 18-year incumbent Gary Laidig for the Republican nomination for State Senator for Minnesota District 56.

In the November 2000 general election, she defeated Ted Thompson of the Minnesota Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party (DFL) and Lyno Sullivan of the Minnesota Independence Party, to win the seat.

Two years later, in November 2002, after redistricting due to the 2000 Census, Bachmann defeated another incumbent, State Senator Jane Krentz of the DFL, in the newly drawn State Senate District 52......"
Michele Bachmann - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Lenore Romney, Mitt Romney's mother:

"Lenore LaFount Romney was the wife of American businessman and politician George W. Romney and was First Lady of Michigan from 1963 to 1969. She was the Republican Party nominee for the U.S. Senate in 1970 from Michigan.......

Education and Acting Career:

......Lenore transferred to George Washington University, where she graduated with an A.B. degree in English literature in June 1929 after again spending only three years total in college. George returned from his missionary stint and soon followed her to Washington.

Acting Career
Encouraged by an aunt, LaFount moved to New York and enrolled in the American Laboratory Theatre to study acting, where she was taught Stanislavski's system under school co-founder Maria Ouspenskaya. She found the experience inspiring.

In student productions there, she starred in the Shakespearean roles of Ophelia and Portia and also appeared in roles from Ibsen and Chekhov plays. She received a performance award there in 1930.

Talent scouts attending the productions were impressed, and she received an offer from the National Broadcasting Corporation to perform in a series of Shakespeare radio programs and from Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer to go to Hollywood under an apprentice actress contract.

She decided on the latter, despite strenuous arguments against doing so from George, who had been visiting her on weekends. By then, he had a job with Alcoa, and arranged to be transferred to Los Angeles to be with her. In September 1930, the couple became engaged.

A 5-foot-6-inch slender woman with porcelain skin and naturally curly chesnut colored hair, LaFount earned bit parts in Hollywood. These included appearing as a fashionable young French woman in a Greta Garbo film and as an ingenue in the William Haines film A Tailor Made Man. She also appears in films that starred Jean Harlow and Ramon Navarro and was a stand-in for Lili Damita. Her trained voice made her valuable during this dawn of the talking pictures era, and she worked as a voice actor in animated cartoons.......

After a few months in Hollywood, she had the opportunity to sign a three-year contract with MGM that was worth $50,000 if all the options were picked up. However, she was dismayed by some of the seamier aspects of Hollywood and the studio's request that she pose for cheesecake photos....."

Lenore Romney - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You failed to mention Ann Romney, who chose to stay home to raise her five sons and never worked a day outside the home. Wouldn't you suspect she advocates that for all women?

And Karen Santorum gave up her career to stay at home and home school her seven children.

If Congresswoman Michelle Bachmann is such a model for working women, why did she and 98% of republican members of the house vote against the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009 and against the Violence Against Women Act earlier this year?
One can only assume that she is against equal pay for equal work and for violence against women.

T. You may want to reconsider after this PBS document on Wilson and segregation:

PBS - American Experience: Woodrow Wilson | Wilson- A Portrait

This open letter from W.E.B. DuBois – a pioneer in civil rights paints an honest picture of Woodrow Wilson:

Another Open Letter to Woodrow Wilson by W.E.B. DuBois

Of course, the framers of the Constitution were sexist and racist but that was the times they lived in. The Constitution declared that slaves counted only for 3/5 of a person in representation, women could not vote, and most of the rich framers who were farmers had slaves including George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.

Agree that Woodrow Wilson was a racist. Probably about 90 of the white population of the U.S. right around World War One were also racists.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_..._United_States

This is like arguing that because the Founding Fathers were racist and sexist the Tea Party members who want to go back to their original intentions are also racists. Barack Obama, Jon Stewart, George Clooney and other well known progressivists hardly share the same views as President Wilson.

You do know that the South wanted slaves counted for representation purposes for the South's benefit, while depriving slaves of any semblance of human rights or dignity?

The 3/5 clause was a compromise and prevented the less populated South from expanding their representation in the Houses.

Yes. I am glad to see you were awake that day in high school American history.

I thought the 50's were pretty good.

Well, it illustrates how you liberals always bringing that up as a useless tool.

"Not counting" the slaves was to their benefit to curtail the power of their enslavers.

It was the enslavers who wanted them counted as "whole" people in order to exploit their own numbers against them.

When liberals bring this up, it's only to influence Americans who are ignorant about "American History". The liberal side of the ledger is overrun with people of that persuasion it would indicate.

I have no idea of what you just said in this post. I have read government gobbledegook that made more sense. I will wait to hear it in person next time at the watering hole.