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Posted by Guest (Post 1120530)

Couple of responses to your post ..

Regarding your support of Black Lives Matter ... have you seen the various videos where BLM supporters are marching through the streets chanting death to cops (actually more vulgar than that)?? Do you "support" that ...ie the call for killing cops? Don't you find a implied if not obvious connection that, in the wake of BLM, a number of cops were in fact killed across the country??

Do you "support" BLM storming the stage and shutting down the comments of Bernie, O'Malley and others? Do you think that crime is "random" across all areas or highly concentrated in black areas which just might have something to do why the get more police attention. BLM is nothing more than another hard left, revolutionary group. I'm sure it has ties to radical groups across the country and would love for it to be investigated but so far no one in Congress has the courage to do the obvious.

The stereotyping is self induced because, in many cases, liberals seem to support some genuinely looney (by common sense standards at least) positions. In the past, it was impolite to call it out. But, after a while, it becomes a target rich environment pretty much impossible to ignore. It's also destroying the country which is what makes it serious. I could go through the examples but I don't have the time right now.

Let's face it, they can dish it out but suddenly become the victims when out numbered. They come on here and act like conservatives are the bad guys, but they sure call on them when they get their butts in a jam. They call the police, the military or suddenly get religion and call the preacher after claiming that the Bible is a myth. I'm not falling for it.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1120560)

I totally respect that you do not care what philosophy is behind the Black Lives Matter Movement.

I do, however, and feel our country is being over run with socialism, communism and marxist ideas.

This movement was started by one Alicia Garza, who is a community organizer and when she began the movement she was acting Special Projects Director for the National Domestic Workers Alliance whose members are nannies, housekeepers, caregivers and other domestic workers.

Her inspiration comes from the Black Liberation Army which was the entity once called the Black Panthers. She is inspired by the words of Assata Shakur who killed a New Jersey State Trooper and is in exile in Cuba, a country who has accepted her and whom she loves and has proclaimed it as "One of the Largest, Most Resistant and Most Courageous Palenques (Maroon Camps) that has ever existed on the Face of this Planet."

She has been involved in extortion, robbery and murder.

This, to me, is not the basis for any kind of positive movement in our country. She has proclaimed for years her hatred for police and of course offers no sympathy for the execution of police officers in our country.

If those words do not give you a chill of fear, then maybe I am the one who is out of touch.

I am a conservative, but not one who wants us to go back to the fifties. Not one who wants anyone of any color to be abused by police. Not one who is blind to many injustices in our country. Not a bigot and not a racist. I actually marched with MLK in Philadelphia during a short visit he made there and believe in my heart of hearts he would be out raged at what is being done in the name of justice.

I do not see any of this as justice. I see it as a marxist take over of our streets and is simply the first step to a war internal in this country,not predicated on seeking justice but predicated on hate and nothing else.

These people do not get my respect in anyway shape or form. You may feel that they are wonderful folks but they are using and fueling hate in this country.

The federal government has investigated any shootings involved and when and if they find reason, there is justice served.

Interesting, if you bother to read a little on this subject that you support so strongly, you will find that the drowning out of the blacks kill blacks cry that many have tried but get drowned out...those people are accurate.

I will leave you a link that I think is simple and clear, although based on your comments, I doubt you will read it, nor will many progressives....

"But Hubbard has plenty of misses. I don't understand why we can't talk about black-on-black crime and police brutality at the same time. Why do we have to treat the two issues separately? It's like saying that if blacks stopped killing blacks tomorrow then police brutality will suddenly stop. We know that's not the case."

James E. Causey - A critic of Black Lives Matter simplifies a complex problem

NO....I will not idolize these people that you idolize. The Democrat party is in the process of being taken over by a socialist, marxist movement. We know they always fail, and we know they always entail bloodshed and killing and we know that countries involved never come back, so NO....I will not idolize these people, not will I be silent about a progressive movement that, in my opinion, has been hijacked by these groups.

I said in an earlier post that I could agree with you on many things.

I take that back. If this kind of movement is supported by you, then we could agree on nothing. We are a country of law and the law works. Let us give voice to the law and the law being administered justly. Lets remember that all the heroes being made by police killings were either criminals in the past or in the commission of a crime.

I am unable to support the people or movement that you support.

These are links to Wiki on some of my comments but more available. I recall in 2008 hearing how the Black Panthers were not good but not to worry, they \have no involvement in Democratic party politics and now I hear how they are in fact supported but with different names.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assata_Shakur

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alicia_Garza

And I would be curious to hear what you respect about all these groups and what makes them so attractive ?

This is an EXCELLENT post ... you provide the information people need to make a rational judgment about BLM..

An earlier poster asked why all the name calling etc? Well, liberals' professing support for BLM is an excellent example of why most rational people with common sense literally deem liberalism as some type of mentally deficient thinking. It's not name calling but rather clinically correct. If the looniness did not have such a hugely negative impact on the country it could simply be laughed at. No more of that .. it needs to be fought in the realm of ideas and debate. Ridicule is part of that when it fits.

Think about it ... the leader of BLM is a committed revolutionary Marxist. Or call her something more precise but she is literally hostile to the country as currently constituted--which is no doubt one of many reasons she would love to overthrow it by force if she could. I believe Garza's type, throughout history, tend to send their enemies to the gallows, or the guillotine. Many lawless personalities that appear throughout history. Our Founders set up a system of constitutional law for a lot of reaons, one of which is to protect us from people like Garza ever gaining power.

So, while I don't think the earlier poster (self identified as Red) is in anyway a "bad' person but rather no doubt very nice in person, I do think she must be somewhere between na�ve or blind to reality such that she can publicly proclaim her support for BLM.

I would really like to hear her (or any other liberal) give us a rationale for supporting a group with the background of BLM. If one is offered, I'm sure it will be an emotionally uplifting call for justice etc, but it will not be one grounded in the reality of our imperfect world. But, I will certainly be wiling to listen to the case.

BLM will not do a d*** thing to help the lot of the average fatherless kid abandoned by the democrat social welfare system in the ghetto, devoid of any Judeo-Christian teachings or disciplines that might enable them to have a successful life.

In short, as but one illustration of the loony liberal mindset, BLM is another liberal "good intentions" nail in the coffin of the average black youth in 21st century America. If you look at the RESULTS, not the good intentions, it's actually racist as h***.

Sorry, I can't sympathize with a political culture that is determined to destroy the America I know in favor of a socialist ideology that I fought a war to prevent. I've lived overseas in socialist countries and do not see anything in their ideology that I would want for America. Unfortunately, we have so many spoiled Americans that have never done or seen anything outside of their subsidized or government controlled environment and now think that they can't live without the gov sugar daddy.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1120462)

If you weren't protesting at B&N, why are you on here complaining about being the victim?

I did protest at Barnes and Noble......

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Posted by Guest (Post 1120584)

Curious, what war were you in? Vietnam was a civil conflict that the US had no business in the first place; Korean Conflict was a civil conflict; WWII was not about socialist ideals - in fact Russia and the US were on the same side.

Think about your Medicare and Medicaid. Definitely Socialist ideas but you use them, I bet. Social Security is another you use, I bet.

Are you for having no Social Security, Medicare, or any old age safety nets whatsoever?

Like most movements, there are parts I don't like of the BLM. I would never advocate the murder of another human being, especially not of someone who has volunteered to protect and uphold the law. However, I do appreciate BLM bringing to light the abuses by some police officers and departments. I've personally seen this abuse of power when a dear friend was pulled over for no reason other than being a black man in a white neighborhood with a white female passenger. Steve Harvey, a pretty hardworking, seemingly decent black man, has admitted to talking to his sons about how to behave in public, especially when talking to the police. He actually threw away every hoodie his children owned for fear it might label them as thugs and get them shot by police. If it takes an organization like BLM to bring abuses out in the open, then I'm for it. If BLM can stop some of abuse of power by police, I'm for it. If all BLM did was cause riots, destruction and the maiming and killing of police officers, I would be against it.

Black lives matter. So do Hispanic, Native American, Japanese, Chinese, Indian, Caucasian and so on. All lives matter. There are many police officers who patrol black communities who have never drawn a weapon in public. They can frequently diffuse a bad situation with words and actions. There are, however, some officers who inflame communities, who belittle and harass young men of color (a young Hispanic male is actually stopped more frequently than a young Black male). This needs to be stopped. If BLM can stop some of these abuses, then something good is being accomplished.

Those are my reasons for being in favor of BLM. I don't support them. I won't donate to their cause nor will I march with them, but I will applaud their bringing to the forefront a grave injustice in this great nation and the fact they have opened dialogues.

Red

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Posted by Guest (Post 1120645)

First thing....you continually list Social Security as some sort of socialist program. I paid into Social Security and had no choice whatsoever and I did it for many many many years, and any problems with that program are the result of the socialist programs that were not funded by anyone and they stole my money.

Secondly, you change the subject....

I assume from your post that you support a movement to socialist, marxist forms of government. ????? That would be better addressed rather than demeaning the service of another poster.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1120585)

I did protest at Barnes and Noble......

And probably don't even know why, other than it was something to do. I realize that there is not enough in the Villages to do, that some have to make up new activities. I want to apologize for my rudeness in advance because in my opinion, the protesters are IDIOTS.

Why aren't you protesting Planned Parenthood? They have a plan of genocide.
Why aren't you protesting Clinton for jeopardizing national security and for lying about Benghazi?
Why don't you protest Obamacare for forcing Nuns to provide birth control, which is against their religious beliefs?

The frivolous nature of your agenda is overwhelmingly naive.

You wonder why conservatives are so condemning of liberalism? Because by it's nature, liberalism is destructive to America. Everything that America stands for is in jeopardy of stagnation when it's citizens accept a liberal ideology. There is a war going on in America right now. A war between accepted American standards of growth and freedom, and the social revolution of those that feel that the gov needs to provide more support and control over those freedoms, to the detriment of the wealthy and ultimately the comfortable lifestyle of the majority of American citizens. And it IS a war, to keep America solid and strong, vs those that want a weak and vulnerable country. If America goes down, the rest of the world suffers. So liberals, you have to ask yourself this; are you willing to destroy America just to have your satisfaction, and to further a foreigner's agenda? Are you that Anti-America that you would sacrifice the future of our children, just to alleviate your anarchist frustration? If so, then you have declared war against America.

Great post now here's an incident that occurred while at the book signing. I was on line to have my book signed chatting with the women around me. My husband had just finished playing softball and was going to meet me on line

The sheriff would Not let him in the store and here is why. He had on his neighborhood softball uniform. He always wears around his neck those cool bands because of the heat here in Fla. His band had the American flag on it. Sheriff. Made him put it in car. Hmmm wonder if he was Muslim with head scarf he could have gotten in. Adios America, perfect title for anns book

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Posted by Guest (Post 1120778)

That is very hard to believe. Not that I doubt you, but hard to believe that something like that would/could happen in one of the most patriotic towns in America. I wish we could get an explanation from the cop that was involved. Unless, he thought that your husband was one of the protesters, because of his disheveled appearance :a20: I bet it would not have happened if not for the loony protesters that didn't even know what they were protesting. The only answer I have gotten so far, is that Coulter is an "evil person." I guess I am evil also since I consider myself a patriot. I thought that we lived in a free country with freedom of speech, until I was corrected by a liberal that seems to think that you are not allowed to disagree with the establishment. The government is their god and you must not disagree with their policies, his (Obama's) policies.

Very upsetting. No my husband is good clean looking (prior military). I swear to you all he had on was his softball uniform and his cool. Neck rag with the American flag on it. The sheriff told him "we don't want to cause a problem". My husband, not the type to argue just went and put it in car. If that had been me, I would not have done that. I just sent a tweet to Ann about what happened in 40 words or less. Hard to believe we live in America anymore. My husband, an Irish white man, is becoming the minority. That is why I said the title of anns book is absolutely correct. Adios America you have no idea how upset I am

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Posted by Guest (Post 1120805)

You just sent a tweet to barfAnn Coulter? You actually think she is going to ever see it? She has a staff of underlings write her tweets.

Yes, your husband is no longer relevant. He should just continue playing softball, golf, and drinking. His neck rag is actually disgracing the American flag.

What an idiot. My husband is Not a drinker first of all. He is a patriotic who put over 30 yrs in the military!! And you???

And yes the tweeting is to wake up America however it appears to be too late.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1120778)

Perhaps the Sheriff correctly judged that some of the protestors would be offended by the American Flag, or perhaps view it as a "divisive symbol" yadda yadda. Nonetheless, your hubbie absolutely should have been allowed in.

I still remember the 1968 Dem Convention in Chicago .. .the only difference is the flag burners, who were then rioting in the streets, are now inside the hall running the show.

And liberals wonder why there are increasingly viewed as a total f'ing joke, as well as destructive.