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Guest 07-05-2016 07:13 AM

It is a complete mystery to me why the main street media continues to be complicit in advertising the progressive agenda of lies, miscalculations, bucking nature and their dream of Utopia. I cannot imagine a worthy leader who would march their troops to certain destruction...well maybe General George Armstrong Custer. come to think of it he wanted to run for president on the liberal ticket.

My wife to my dismay watches CNN and I with great reluctance I listened to those so called journalist beat the heck out of Trump on trumped up issues that were meaningless in the scheme of things and never say boo about Clinton's malfeasance except to mention that she will be cleared of all charges. Essentially CNN is telling its viewers that Clinton may be a crook but she's their crook. Incredible that so called intelligent and well informed people let progressive continue to tear at the fabric of this nation creating peril for one and all. You would think that intelligent well informed people would demand the truth from the media

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Guest 07-05-2016 07:16 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1249630)
Yes, of course. Throw your vote away on a third party because a loonie toon says so. If you are suggesting a vote for Gary Johnson, you are wasting your vote on another liberal, whack job. All he does is leach votes from the other candidates, because on a few uninformed would vote for him.

Who cuts your meat for you? Do you think things through? Reason?

Throw my vote away? The wasted vote is the vote for "one of them", one of the "lesser of two evils".

A loonietoon didn't tell me to vote for whom "I" want to win. Common sense tells me to vote for whom "I" want...not those already in power who want to KEEP their power.

Yes, ANYONE not "endorsed", not "owned" by the R party is a "whack job"...I'm typing to a real "whack job" right now.

Your government is owned by the rich and powerful, it works for them, as long as you keep electing "their guy", you will continue to lose. There is no hope for any meaningful change for the better. It will only get worse, government will only get larger, it will only take more and more through taxes, it will only become more and more oppressive and controlling.

Stop being their fool. Vote YOUR conscience. Vote for whom YOU want to win. If everyone stopped listening to their "electability" lies, WE could win for once. We could get rid of this D and R stranglehold on OUR government.

Guest 07-05-2016 07:37 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1249700)
It is a complete mystery to me why the main street media continues to be complicit in advertising the progressive agenda of lies, miscalculations, bucking nature and their dream of Utopia. I cannot imagine a worthy leader who would march their troops to certain destruction...well maybe General George Armstrong Custer. come to think of it he wanted to run for president on the liberal ticket.

My wife to my dismay watches CNN and I with great reluctance I listened to those so called journalist beat the heck out of Trump on trumped up issues that were meaningless in the scheme of things and never say boo about Clinton's malfeasance except to mention that she will be cleared of all charges. Essentially CNN is telling its viewers that Clinton may be a crook but she's their crook. Incredible that so called intelligent and well informed people let progressive continue to tear at the fabric of this nation creating peril for one and all. You would think that intelligent well informed people would demand the truth from the media

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Money...and we don't know "the plan". It seems strange to us because we're not privy to the ultimate strategy. Like watching a chess game, taken by itself, a move may "seem" to be foolish because it's part of a bigger plan.

Blame the mainstream media for that. It repeats lies over and over until they're believed by most of the populace.

How could ANYONE still believe in "equality" after living in the real world for 60 years? But we do because it's been POUNDED into us since birth.

We don't demand the truth because we don't realize how much we're lied to.

Guest 07-06-2016 03:23 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1249704)
Who cuts your meat for you? Do you think things through? Reason?

Throw my vote away? The wasted vote is the vote for "one of them", one of the "lesser of two evils".

A loonietoon didn't tell me to vote for whom "I" want to win. Common sense tells me to vote for whom "I" want...not those already in power who want to KEEP their power.

Yes, ANYONE not "endorsed", not "owned" by the R party is a "whack job"...I'm typing to a real "whack job" right now.

Your government is owned by the rich and powerful, it works for them, as long as you keep electing "their guy", you will continue to lose. There is no hope for any meaningful change for the better. It will only get worse, government will only get larger, it will only take more and more through taxes, it will only become more and more oppressive and controlling.

Stop being their fool. Vote YOUR conscience. Vote for whom YOU want to win. If everyone stopped listening to their "electability" lies, WE could win for once. We could get rid of this D and R stranglehold on OUR government.

So, you vote for the loonie because he is NOT a D or R. Great reasoning. He's still a loonie loser that is more liberal than many Democrats. But, like you said, it IS your vote. Wasting it is better than voting for scumbag, criminal, pathological liar and tax cheat Hillary.

Guest 07-06-2016 06:57 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1250097)
So, you vote for the loonie because he is NOT a D or R. Great reasoning. He's still a loonie loser that is more liberal than many Democrats. But, like you said, it IS your vote. Wasting it is better than voting for scumbag, criminal, pathological liar and tax cheat Hillary.

If a "regular guy" or a known "mafia member" were running, which would you choose? What if there were TWO mafia members and a "regular guy"?

So WHY do you vote for the mafia? The D and R party are like the mafia, corrupt.

YOU waste you vote on the mafia, I'll TRY to get the "regular guy" in there. Who is the fool?

Guest 07-06-2016 07:59 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1250134)
If a "regular guy" or a known "mafia member" were running, which would you choose? What if there were TWO mafia members and a "regular guy"?

So WHY do you vote for the mafia? The D and R party are like the mafia, corrupt.

YOU waste you vote on the mafia, I'll TRY to get the "regular guy" in there. Who is the fool?

So, you vote for the clown that promises to quit smoking dope if elected. Great!

Guest 07-06-2016 08:21 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1249700)
It is a complete mystery to me why the main street media continues to be complicit in advertising the progressive agenda of lies, miscalculations, bucking nature and their dream of Utopia. I cannot imagine a worthy leader who would march their troops to certain destruction...well maybe General George Armstrong Custer. come to think of it he wanted to run for president on the liberal ticket.

My wife to my dismay watches CNN and I with great reluctance I listened to those so called journalist beat the heck out of Trump on trumped up issues that were meaningless in the scheme of things and never say boo about Clinton's malfeasance except to mention that she will be cleared of all charges. Essentially CNN is telling its viewers that Clinton may be a crook but she's their crook. Incredible that so called intelligent and well informed people let progressive continue to tear at the fabric of this nation creating peril for one and all. You would think that intelligent well informed people would demand the truth from the media

Personal Best Regards:

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My wife to my dismay watches CNN and I with great reluctance I listened to those so called journalist beat the heck out of Trump on trumped up issues that were meaningless in the scheme of things and never say boo about Clinton's malfeasance except to mention that she will be cleared of all charges. "

You must not watch the same CNN as I do, what you are saying are lies. They have trump backers that "rail" on her. Your wife is the smart one in your family. We see who wears the panties in your family. LOL

Guest 07-06-2016 08:37 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1250163)
So, you vote for the clown that promises to quit smoking dope if elected. Great!

He was a governor...2 terms I believe.

You think ANYONE who smokes cannabis is somehow "inferior"? What about someone who drinks coffee for the caffeine to wake up? What about someone who enjoys a drink to relax, unwind? How about a runner seeking the high? Are they ALL "unfit" in your eyes? Or is it just that one is "illegal"? The whole marijuana thing is the corporations don't want it. It has NOTHING to do with health. THEY can't make money on something people can easily grow at home themselves. THAT is why it's illegal and the penalties are so extreme. It's a plant, God put it here, it's in the Bible for man to reap the benefits of all that's been provided. For responsible adults, it's not a problem.

Besides, he's not the only other person running. How about the Constitution party? Do you think the government should follow the Constitution? Vote for them.

Guest 07-06-2016 08:55 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1250176)
He was a governor...2 terms I believe.

You think ANYONE who smokes cannabis is somehow "inferior"? What about someone who drinks coffee for the caffeine to wake up? What about someone who enjoys a drink to relax, unwind? How about a runner seeking the high? Are they ALL "unfit" in your eyes? Or is it just that one is "illegal"? The whole marijuana thing is the corporations don't want it. It has NOTHING to do with health. THEY can't make money on something people can easily grow at home themselves. THAT is why it's illegal and the penalties are so extreme. It's a plant, God put it here, it's in the Bible for man to reap the benefits of all that's been provided. For responsible adults, it's not a problem.

Besides, he's not the only other person running. How about the Constitution party? Do you think the government should follow the Constitution? Vote for them.

Stupid post. Comparing an illegal use of a banned drug to the use of coffee. Wow!

Guest 07-06-2016 09:07 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1250190)
Stupid post. Comparing an illegal use of a banned drug to the use of coffee. Wow!

Because the ONLY difference between them is one is banned, is illegal, for political reasons.

It's legal in more and more places, you couldn't make that comment in Washington state.

You're a woman, because you're a lamb who "follows all the "laws" because you're supposed to. That's what separates most men from most women. Women want laws that "protect" them. Because women NEED protecting. Their whole mindset is safety because the world is a dangerous place for a women unless there are LOTS of laws to protect them.

Most men hate laws, they do nothing but stifle us. They protect the weak and inferior.

I'm always surprised to see that women's sense of "fairness and equality" trumps their need for safety and security. Women push for equal rights, they want diversity...yet the minorities they promote are 10X more violent, unpredictable, and dangerous to them than the white men they're trying to suppress because "we're too violent".

People...they do the strangest things.

Guest 07-06-2016 10:04 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1250134)
If a "regular guy" or a known "mafia member" were running, which would you choose? What if there were TWO mafia members and a "regular guy"?

So WHY do you vote for the mafia? The D and R party are like the mafia, corrupt.

YOU waste you vote on the mafia, I'll TRY to get the "regular guy" in there. Who is the fool?

One should vote for the 'mafia' candidate based on the facts that everyone in the mafia knows their place and does their job or is replaced if that is not so; and the mafia does not operate with deficit spending nor does it LOSE $$$!

Guest 07-06-2016 10:06 AM

Who on earth would hire/promote someone who had a background reference that confirmed they were a liar and had committed acts of gross negligence and carelessness?!?!?!

Guest 07-06-2016 10:16 AM

I would if I didn't agree with the assessment. Vote Hillary.

Guest 07-06-2016 10:27 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1250224)
I would if I didn't agree with the assessment. Vote Hillary.

Why don't you agree? That was the assessment of the Director of the FBI. Do you think he was lying?

Guest 07-06-2016 11:04 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1250225)
Why don't you agree? That was the assessment of the Director of the FBI. Do you think he was lying?

What he said was true. She should have know better. Apparently intent mattered to the FBI even though I thought I read somewhere intent does not matter.
My question is do you trust the FBI's conclusion is a fair and honest one in the best interest of the country?

Guest 07-06-2016 11:31 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1250251)
What he said was true. She should have know better. Apparently intent mattered to the FBI even though I thought I read somewhere intent does not matter.
My question is do you trust the FBI's conclusion is a fair and honest one in the best interest of the country?

Yes, I do believe that the Director's statements which support the fact that Hillary is a liar and that she did demonstrated reckless and gross careless in her handling of classified material to be a fair and honest assessment. Hillary's intent (or not) has bearing on those findings.

Guest 07-06-2016 11:35 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1250215)
One should vote for the 'mafia' candidate based on the facts that everyone in the mafia knows their place and does their job or is replaced if that is not so; and the mafia does not operate with deficit spending nor does it LOSE $$$!

Really? Vote for the criminal. America sure has changed, even white people are thinking like the blacks and hispanics...criminals are OK.

The president needs to "know his place" and "do what he's told". Sounds about right.

No, when they need money, they steal it from others. Sounds like our government all right. YOU owe OVER $60,000...did you know that? They "borrowed" that in your name. That's your part of the federal debt. $20 trillion so far...climbing at the rate of over $1 trillion a year.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1250216)
Who on earth would hire/promote someone who had a background reference that confirmed they were a liar and had committed acts of gross negligence and carelessness?!?!?!

The American voting fool who has been convinced those are the ONLY "viable" candidates. You want to make another candidate viable? Vote for him, get others to vote for him. YOU pick the winner and the winner for you isn't one of their precorrupted liars. If Trump gets the nomination, he's been playing you or he rolled over.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1250225)
Why don't you agree? That was the assessment of the Director of the FBI. Do you think he was lying?

Yes, he was in the situation where his job depended on it. He did what he was told. MORE than that could have been at stake. We know the Clinton history of bodies.

The FBI will feel her fury I predict...

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Posted by Guest (Post 1250251)
What he said was true. She should have know better. Apparently intent mattered to the FBI even though I thought I read somewhere intent does not matter.
My question is do you trust the FBI's conclusion is a fair and honest one in the best interest of the country?

Intent DOESN'T matter unless you're the next president. Many a worker has been fired or worse for accidentally mishandling classified. She KNEW she couldn't have classified on a personal server. Even YOU know that!

The FBI was told "hands off". Period. That's what the meeting with Lynch was about. That is why Obama was out campaigning for Hillary BEFORE the announcement.

We're all being played by those in power.

Guest 07-06-2016 11:59 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1250262)
Yes, I do believe that the Director's statements which support the fact that Hillary is a liar and that she did demonstrated reckless and gross careless in her handling of classified material to be a fair and honest assessment. Hillary's intent (or not) has bearing on those findings.

FBI Director James Comey said his office is not recommending prosecutors bring charges against Hillary Clinton for her handling of classified information in connection with private email servers while secretary of state.
"Although the Department of Justice makes final decisions on matters like this, we are expressing to Justice our view that no charges are appropriate in this case," Comey said Tuesday.

Addressing inevitable complaints about the investigation, Comey — a Republican — emphasized that "this investigation was done honestly, competently and independently."

Guest 07-06-2016 02:02 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1250277)
FBI Director James Comey said his office is not recommending prosecutors bring charges against Hillary Clinton for her handling of classified information in connection with private email servers while secretary of state.
"Although the Department of Justice makes final decisions on matters like this, we are expressing to Justice our view that no charges are appropriate in this case," Comey said Tuesday.

Addressing inevitable complaints about the investigation, Comey — a Republican — emphasized that "this investigation was done honestly, competently and independently."

Yep, they got to him. There was plenty of evidence to charge and convict her, so that means someone got to him. It will be a long time before we find out, but it will be interesting to hear what happened.

The Clintons are definitely scumbag felons. Too bad no one has the guts to stand up to them.

Guest 07-07-2016 07:22 PM

Several years ago, a very good doctor that was a favorite with us, told us about the proposal that became Os directive, Obama Care.

He gave numerous examples, we do not need to hear them again, they are mostly well known and some writers here are clarifying that. But his main points give are this:
O care will create a monster of paperwork.
O care will cause many competent doctors to retire.
O care will cause so much dissension, it may never be able to overcome the pitfalls.
An Example: My wife and I were teaching computer methods at a public library as volunteers to seniors. We did that for two years.
One woman came to us and specified she had to know how to do Spreadsheets. So we did that for her. One day she said she was doing all of this for her husband, he would not come to classes, he was too involved in Sports. So she had to learn spreadsheets so she could teach him spreadsheets, her husband was going to be furnished a new car, a credit card and be paid 300 a day to drive around and be sure medical persons were following all the gov standards. He had no qualifications, no education, only needed to be able to do SS and drive and spend money helping out the Big O program, by the way with several other people doing the same thing.

Guest 07-08-2016 04:00 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1251031)
Several years ago, a very good doctor that was a favorite with us, told us about the proposal that became Os directive, Obama Care.

He gave numerous examples, we do not need to hear them again, they are mostly well known and some writers here are clarifying that. But his main points give are this:
O care will create a monster of paperwork.
O care will cause many competent doctors to retire.
O care will cause so much dissension, it may never be able to overcome the pitfalls.
An Example: My wife and I were teaching computer methods at a public library as volunteers to seniors. We did that for two years.
One woman came to us and specified she had to know how to do Spreadsheets. So we did that for her. One day she said she was doing all of this for her husband, he would not come to classes, he was too involved in Sports. So she had to learn spreadsheets so she could teach him spreadsheets, her husband was going to be furnished a new car, a credit card and be paid 300 a day to drive around and be sure medical persons were following all the gov standards. He had no qualifications, no education, only needed to be able to do SS and drive and spend money helping out the Big O program, by the way with several other people doing the same thing.

Good point, but what does it have to do with the thread?


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