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Guest 04-06-2016 07:28 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209492)
Kind of stupid. No, very much stupid. How could anyone get a bad notion from that comment? You have Sanders writing essays on women fantasizing about being raped, and you have Hillary defending a child rapist in court...and you worry about Trump discussing (after being asked) what parts of him and what parts of his wife's that his little girl got. And he did NOT say anything about her breasts, other than he didn't know if she got her mother's or not. Reporters love to set him up with their loaded questions, just so they can hopefully sensationalize something he says. And I don't even like the guy, and I can tell when liberals are grasping at straws.

You think the question that the reporter asked was a loaded question from 1994 interview that had nothing to do with politics? You can tell when a liberal is rasping at straws despite all evidence to the contrary.

Reporters don't have to ask him loaded questions. All they have to do is wait, and something completely stupid will come out of his mouth.

He has made so many comments on so many different subjects that a few will come true just by the sire odds.. You know his comment will be, "I told you, so." The man has no shame.

Guest 04-06-2016 07:53 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209523)
Pal, I got no idea what you are talking about. I know you think you are making sense but not to me. If you are hearing that from others as well you might want got a check-up.

Good one. Made me smile.

Guest 04-07-2016 03:48 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209523)
Pal, I got no idea what you are talking about. I know you think you are making sense but not to me. If you are hearing that from others as well you might want got a check-up.

And you might want to get a refund for your education.

Guest 04-07-2016 05:20 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209583)
And you might want to get a refund for your education.

The SAD part is...someone AGREED with his babbling.

Guest 04-07-2016 08:20 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209509)
Sure, like you didn't watch the Planned Parenthood videos. Get over it. As a liberal, I am surprised you are even bothered by anything like that. After all, the pervert socialist doesn't bother you and Hillary defending a rapist of a 12 year old doesn't bother you. So, now you are suddenly going to get religion? Kind of disingenuous aren't you? Is that the best you all can come up with, a 30 year old comment?

I had to string a couple of threads together and a couple of posters that you think are me. I've said it before, I am open minded. That does not put me in a group unless it's called independent. I don't have the answers but I do enjoy finding them online and asking others for answers.
1] Sure, like you didn't watch the Planned Parenthood videos.
I wasn't on that thread. And I'm not running for office and personally I planned my parenthood. I don't know where I stand on that issue.
2] the pervert socialist doesn't bother you Sanders is not a pervert,
a person whose sexual behavior is regarded as abnormal and unacceptable. He wrote an essay. He regrets writing it. He calls himself a democratic socialist. I do think he has the best intentions for the country out of all the candidates and the highest morals. My gut feeling is that he is an honest man.
3] Hillary defending a rapist of a 12 year old doesn't bother you. This does bother me. I understand that a lawyer is appointed to do the best they can for their client and that's part of the game but it's not a game when it comes to rape. So I don't know what to make of that issue.
4] I said God Bless You. I meant it. I'm not very religious but when situations or people look hopeless, I pray. I don't know why and that comes off as disingenuous.
5] The video is weird. Every parent and relative looks at their infant to see if they have someone's eyes, or nose or mouth. You feel blessed if they have your eyes. Trump goes in a direction I've never heard before. If you watched the video you might have been creeped out too. I was like a SNL skit. It's hard to find a piece on Trump that no one has seen before. That's what also makes it unique.

Guest 04-07-2016 08:37 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209660)
I had to string a couple of threads together and a couple of posters that you think are me. I've said it before, I am open minded. That does not put me in a group unless it's called independent. I don't have the answers but I do enjoy finding them online and asking others for answers.
1] Sure, like you didn't watch the Planned Parenthood videos.
I wasn't on that thread. And I'm not running for office and personally I planned my parenthood. I don't know where I stand on that issue.
2] the pervert socialist doesn't bother you Sanders is not a pervert,
a person whose sexual behavior is regarded as abnormal and unacceptable. He wrote an essay. He regrets writing it. He calls himself a democratic socialist. I do think he has the best intentions for the country out of all the candidates and the highest morals. My gut feeling is that he is an honest man.
3] Hillary defending a rapist of a 12 year old doesn't bother you. This does bother me. I understand that a lawyer is appointed to do the best they can for their client and that's part of the game but it's not a game when it comes to rape. So I don't know what to make of that issue.
4] I said God Bless You. I meant it. I'm not very religious but when situations or people look hopeless, I pray. I don't know why and that comes off as disingenuous.
5] The video is weird. Every parent and relative looks at their infant to see if they have someone's eyes, or nose or mouth. You feel blessed if they have your eyes. Trump goes in a direction I've never heard before. If you watched the video you might have been creeped out too. I was like a SNL skit. It's hard to find a piece on Trump that no one has seen before. That's what also makes it unique.

Hillary Clinton Speaks About Defense of Child Rapist

That kind of bothers me too. I did work for prisoners at Legal Assistance to Minnesota Prisoners with the Minnesota Correctional Facility-Stillwater and some of these were convicted rapists but I would not have had such an attitude as she seems to have with respect to a client. You do your duty for your client but should try to empathize with what the victim/survivor is going through as well. It sounds like the Hillary Clinton make then just saw this as a game to win at any cost judging by some of the tactics she used.

I am not really thrilled by any of the candidates all that much in 2016. Sanders does seem like a very ethical person but his proposals seem quite unrealistic.

Guest 04-07-2016 08:38 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209583)
And you might want to get a refund for your education.

I had a scholarship based on SAT scores, GPA and financial need. My dad couldn't start me off with a million dollars although he did give me what he could and taught me a couple of trades. We worked together on projects and I worked for him as an electrician's helper. What's that worth?

Guest 04-07-2016 08:42 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209674)
I had a scholarship based on SAT scores, GPA and financial need. My dad couldn't start me off with a million dollars although he did give me what he could and taught me a couple of trades. We worked together on projects and I worked for him as an electrician's helper. What's that worth?

Why respond to obvious baiting?

Guest 04-07-2016 08:52 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209677)
Why respond to obvious baiting?

Why not? What's the harm? Sometimes the people who post think they are breaking your balls when they are not. I do hate to ruin the fun.

Guest 04-07-2016 09:26 AM

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Hillary Clinton Speaks About Defense of Child Rapist
Sanders does seem like a very ethical person but his proposals seem quite unrealistic.

I found the same link last night. There are two things going on the legal and the victim. We all have a head and a heart.

I wonder what will happen in the future when every word you typed is recorded. Maybe people will get used to it, like pot. The first time I heard a president say "I did not inhale" was the first time someone in my generation sounded like many I knew. Now a candidate like Bush or Obama can say they used coke and it's not stopping their political career. I thought it was funny and pathetic [a little too late] that Jeb said he smoked pot.

I'll take my chances, and my future kin's chances with Sanders. Just running his ideas are getting some press.

Guest 04-07-2016 09:29 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209680)
Why not? What's the harm? Sometimes the people who post think they are breaking your balls when they are not. I do hate to ruin the fun.

So, you slam someone because you can't follow the conversation, and then complain when someone strikes back with a valid observation even though harsh? What are you, one of those sensitive liberals that thinks it's OK for Freedom of Speech as long as you agree with it? Don't put it out there if you don't want someone stepping on it.

Guest 04-07-2016 09:33 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209677)
Why respond to obvious baiting?

Obviously, you are not reading the comments or you would know that the response was to his snide remark.

Guest 04-07-2016 09:51 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209703)
So, you slam someone because you can't follow the conversation, and then complain when someone strikes back with a valid observation even though harsh? What are you, one of those sensitive liberals that thinks it's OK for Freedom of Speech as long as you agree with it? Don't put it out there if you don't want someone stepping on it.

Have you ever heard the phrase "tilting at windmills"?

Guest 04-07-2016 09:57 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209660)
I had to string a couple of threads together and a couple of posters that you think are me. I've said it before, I am open minded. That does not put me in a group unless it's called independent. I don't have the answers but I do enjoy finding them online and asking others for answers.
1] Sure, like you didn't watch the Planned Parenthood videos.
I wasn't on that thread. And I'm not running for office and personally I planned my parenthood. I don't know where I stand on that issue.
2] the pervert socialist doesn't bother you Sanders is not a pervert,
a person whose sexual behavior is regarded as abnormal and unacceptable. He wrote an essay. He regrets writing it. He calls himself a democratic socialist. I do think he has the best intentions for the country out of all the candidates and the highest morals. My gut feeling is that he is an honest man.

3] Hillary defending a rapist of a 12 year old doesn't bother you. This does bother me. I understand that a lawyer is appointed to do the best they can for their client and that's part of the game but it's not a game when it comes to rape. So I don't know what to make of that issue.
4] I said God Bless You. I meant it. I'm not very religious but when situations or people look hopeless, I pray. I don't know why and that comes off as disingenuous.
5] The video is weird. Every parent and relative looks at their infant to see if they have someone's eyes, or nose or mouth. You feel blessed if they have your eyes. Trump goes in a direction I've never heard before. If you watched the video you might have been creeped out too. I was like a SNL skit. It's hard to find a piece on Trump that no one has seen before. That's what also makes it unique.

I am guessing that you do not know much about Sanders, or you would not give him such a shining compliment. I am not going to be mean and suggest that you are out of your mind. Sanders is a dirty old man/pervert. Even a recent lewd remark is evidence, when he made a comment about a young lady in the audience at one of his rallies. I'll let you look it up, because I linked it in another post.
To suggest that Sanders has the highest of morals and is honest, is proof that you know nothing about the commie. Why don't you research how he made his living for the first 40 years of his life before he started his first full-time job? And how can you suggest that he is honest when he wants to forcibly take money from everyone to pay for college and health care for the lazy. And I say lazy, because these kids do not want to work their way through college (like most of my generation) or even pay their loans back after they finish their education. Sanders is a dirty old commie. He is running amok, shouting about a revolution and you liberals are eating it up like you are some kind of hippy teenager at a flag burning demonstration.

Guest 04-07-2016 10:06 AM

Of Topic Warning:
You can't alway cubbyhole people. Tack for instance the Pope. Is he a liberal?

Guest 04-07-2016 10:17 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209716)
I am guessing that you do not know much about Sanders, or you would not give him such a shining compliment. I am not going to be mean and suggest that you are out of your mind. Sanders is a dirty old man/pervert. Even a recent lewd remark is evidence, when he made a comment about a young lady in the audience at one of his rallies. I'll let you look it up, because I linked it in another post.
To suggest that Sanders has the highest of morals and is honest, is proof that you know nothing about the commie. Why don't you research how he made his living for the first 40 years of his life before he started his first full-time job? And how can you suggest that he is honest when he wants to forcibly take money from everyone to pay for college and health care for the lazy. And I say lazy, because these kids do not want to work their way through college (like most of my generation) or even pay their loans back after they finish their education. Sanders is a dirty old commie. He is running amok, shouting about a revolution and you liberals are eating it up like you are some kind of hippy teenager at a flag burning demonstration.

I have read a lot about Sanders. I have seen many interviews. I don't see him contradicting himself or defending himself about allegations.

How much was tuition when you went to college? My state tuition was $350/yr. Big deal. I could make that washing dishes.


Young people were told to get a good job you need a good education. The whole story is that you need a good education that will prepare you for the computer, math and science fields. It's not easy and you need to be smart. That's where I steered my kids. They pay a lot of taxes because they make a lot of money.

Guest 04-07-2016 10:27 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209699)
I found the same link last night. There are two things going on the legal and the victim. We all have a head and a heart.

I wonder what will happen in the future when every word you typed is recorded. Maybe people will get used to it, like pot. The first time I heard a president say "I did not inhale" was the first time someone in my generation sounded like many I knew. Now a candidate like Bush or Obama can say they used coke and it's not stopping their political career. I thought it was funny and pathetic [a little too late] that Jeb said he smoked pot.

I'll take my chances, and my future kin's chances with Sanders. Just running his ideas are getting some press.

You can empathize with a victim and still search out some kind of justice while being a good lawyer. It does not seem to me that a lawyer should try anything to get their client off. The culture in law schools in the 1970s and 1980s though did seem to stress objective gamesmanship and not empathy with the survivor/victim.

I do not see these matters as being problems for Clinton or Sanders now as legal education seems to be quite different in the 2010s with the extensive interest in survivors/victims rights in the places of higher education. I mean Sanders' article from the 1970s and Clinton's days as a defender of an alleged rapist of a 12 year old.

Guest 04-07-2016 10:39 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209729)
You can empathize with a victim and still search out some kind of justice while being a good lawyer. It does not seem to me that a lawyer should try anything to get their client off. The culture in law schools in the 1970s and 1980s though did seem to stress objective gamesmanship and not empathy with the survivor/victim.

I do not see these matters as being problems for Clinton or Sanders now as legal education seems to be quite different in the 2010s with the extensive interest in survivors/victims rights in the places of higher education. I mean Sanders' article from the 1970s and Clinton's days as a defender of an alleged rapist of a 12 year old.

And yet, the right is held to higher standards, right? A comment that Trump made 30 years ago is a point of contention, but a perverted essay by a socialist that claims to be moral, and then Hillary that is proclaiming a GOP war on women when she is the obvious perpetrator herself, are both off limits. Am I assuming correct?

I am not endeared to Trump, but I do see some hypocrisy broadcasting from the left.

Guest 04-07-2016 10:42 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209722)
Of Topic Warning:
You can't alway cubbyhole people. Tack for instance the Pope. Is he a liberal?

boy oh boy, I didn't proof read that at all. sorry
You can't always cubbyhole or label people. Take for instance the Pope. Is he a liberal?

Guest 04-07-2016 12:00 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209735)
And yet, the right is held to higher standards, right? A comment that Trump made 30 years ago is a point of contention, but a perverted essay by a socialist that claims to be moral, and then Hillary that is proclaiming a GOP war on women when she is the obvious perpetrator herself, are both off limits. Am I assuming correct?

I am not endeared to Trump, but I do see some hypocrisy broadcasting from the left.

At the risk of making you angrier I think you have blown things out of proportion.

Ask yourself "Why do you think Sanders is a pervert?" You have an essay that Sander's said was poorly written and regrets writing as a young man.

Why do you think voters have a problem with the way Trump has treated women? There's lot of evidence with what he has said and how he has acted over the years. It's not just that even as a baby Trump predicted that he hopes Tiffany looks like her mom in a sexy sort of way or if he was somebody else he would be interested in Ivanka. I've never heard a dad say either of those things.

The biggest problem is that this is the first time Trump is running for any office. He has no political record. So you are voting on trusting his good judgment and character.

I don't think Hillary has made any statements about any of the other candidates views on women. Maybe she has. Do you know?

I'm only speaking for myself and thinking out loud. I'm not trying to win a debate.

Guest 04-07-2016 12:05 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209724)

Young people were told to get a good job you need a good education. The whole story is that you need a good education that will prepare you for the computer, math and science fields. It's not easy and you need to be smart. That's where I steered my kids. They pay a lot of taxes because they make a lot of money.

That's the crux, most of the kids going to college aren't very smart. Laquanda from the projects isn't going to go to work for Goldman. She probably won't get a job at all. Because she doesn't know how to act.

Guest 04-07-2016 12:13 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209776)
That's the crux, most of the kids going to college aren't very smart.

And how do you know that?

Guest 04-07-2016 12:29 PM

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And how do you know that?

Even Sanders made a statement where he said the kids today in college are just getting an education equivalent to a high school education that we had. It's about the only thing that I agreed with him on.

Guest 04-07-2016 12:32 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209729)
You can empathize with a victim and still search out some kind of justice while being a good lawyer. It does not seem to me that a lawyer should try anything to get their client off. The culture in law schools in the 1970s and 1980s though did seem to stress objective gamesmanship and not empathy with the survivor/victim.

I do not see these matters as being problems for Clinton or Sanders now as legal education seems to be quite different in the 2010s with the extensive interest in survivors/victims rights in the places of higher education. I mean Sanders' article from the 1970s and Clinton's days as a defender of an alleged rapist of a 12 year old.

I went to a Jesuit University, and the professors in my law classes said that it was a defense lawyer's responsibility to do everything (legal) in representng their client to achieve an innocent verdict. No matter what. They said that was a basic tenet in our legal system.

Guest 04-07-2016 12:35 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209785)
Even Sanders made a statement where he said the kids today in college are just getting an education equivalent to a high school education that we had. It's about the only thing that I agreed with him on.

During the debate Sanders claimed "A college degree today is the equivalent of what a high school degree was 50 years ago."

That means that you need at least need college degree to get a good job. Whereas 50 years ago you needed at least a high school degree.

You can go back to not agreeing with anything he said.

Guest 04-07-2016 12:38 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209787)
I went to a Jesuit University, and the professors in my law classes said that it was a defense lawyer's responsibility to do everything (legal) in representng their client to achieve an innocent verdict. No matter what. They said that was a basic tenet in our legal system.

WARNING OFF TOPIC--DON'T BOTHER READING

You could probably answer this question better than anyone I know.
Would you call the Pope a liberal?

Guest 04-07-2016 12:48 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209787)
I went to a Jesuit University, and the professors in my law classes said that it was a defense lawyer's responsibility to do everything (legal) in representng their client to achieve an innocent verdict. No matter what. They said that was a basic tenet in our legal system.

Everyone understands that. The point made was that Hillary is constantly proclaiming that the GOP is at war on women. She has absolutely NO evidence to support her accusations, other than Planned Parenthood. And even many Democrats in congress sided with them on that issue. Hillary was brutal to that 12 year old raped girl in court, which was inexcusable and just showed how much money apparently meant to her than justice. The point is that she is a hypocrite. It may be a cops job to arrest a criminal, but how he proceeds with that can make a difference between being conceived as professional or being excessive.

Hillary claims that Republicans are at "war" with women, when the Republicans are not against women, but against gov subsidized abortion, or selling of baby parts. To the Republicans, it is attempting to protect the baby's rights and enforce the law, where as Hillary insists on using the controversy to garner votes. If she was so adamant about women's rights, where was she when that little girl was raped? Why is that girl still suffering for the additional trauma of being badgered by Hillary in court?

This is not the only issue where she is a hypocrite. She was also against gay marriage for many years. Then she entered politics and ran for office and suddenly she was FOR gay marriage.

She was for entering into war with Iraq and then she was against the war.

The list is too long. If a Republican changes his mind, it's called flip-flopping. If a liberal does it, it's call "evolving."

Guest 04-07-2016 12:53 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209796)
The list is too long. If a Republican changes his mind, it's called flip-flopping. If a liberal does it, it's call "evolving."


Guest 04-07-2016 01:00 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209790)
WARNING OFF TOPIC--DON'T BOTHER READING

You could probably answer this question better than anyone I know.
Would you call the Pope a liberal?

The Pope is a socialist, for a socialist country. And compared to other Popes, he is liberal.

Guest 04-07-2016 01:10 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209805)
The Pope is a socialist, for a socialist country. And compared to other Popes, he is liberal.

Vatican City State is governed as an absolute monarchy. The Head of State is the Pope who holds full legislative, executive and judicial powers.
If the Pope is a liberal, what is his position on abortion and gay rights?

I'll wait for the Lawyer's answer who went to the Jesuit college. I always learn something when he writes.

Guest 04-07-2016 01:27 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209776)
That's the crux, most of the kids going to college aren't very smart. Laquanda from the projects isn't going to go to work for Goldman. She probably won't get a job at all. Because she doesn't know how to act.

You mean like Ben Carson.

Guest 04-07-2016 01:33 PM

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You mean like Ben Carson.

Carson was born in Detroit, Michigan, the son of Sonya (née Copeland) and Robert Solomon Carson, a minister and later Cadillac factory worker. Both parents came from large families in rural Georgia and were living in rural Tennessee when they met and married. Carson's mother was only 13 when she married Carson's father, who was 28. Carson's mother subsequently discovered her husband had another family, for which Carson's father eventually abandoned her.[7][8][9] Following his parents' divorce, when Carson was eight years old, both he and his older brother, Curtis, were raised by their mother, who worked two or three jobs at a time, usually as a domestic servant. They were poor, and his mother occasionally relied on food stamps and other government assistance.[10]

You never know what you will learn on these threads.


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