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Guest 04-07-2016 09:29 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209680)
Why not? What's the harm? Sometimes the people who post think they are breaking your balls when they are not. I do hate to ruin the fun.

So, you slam someone because you can't follow the conversation, and then complain when someone strikes back with a valid observation even though harsh? What are you, one of those sensitive liberals that thinks it's OK for Freedom of Speech as long as you agree with it? Don't put it out there if you don't want someone stepping on it.

Guest 04-07-2016 09:33 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209677)
Why respond to obvious baiting?

Obviously, you are not reading the comments or you would know that the response was to his snide remark.

Guest 04-07-2016 09:51 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209703)
So, you slam someone because you can't follow the conversation, and then complain when someone strikes back with a valid observation even though harsh? What are you, one of those sensitive liberals that thinks it's OK for Freedom of Speech as long as you agree with it? Don't put it out there if you don't want someone stepping on it.

Have you ever heard the phrase "tilting at windmills"?

Guest 04-07-2016 09:57 AM

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I had to string a couple of threads together and a couple of posters that you think are me. I've said it before, I am open minded. That does not put me in a group unless it's called independent. I don't have the answers but I do enjoy finding them online and asking others for answers.
1] Sure, like you didn't watch the Planned Parenthood videos.
I wasn't on that thread. And I'm not running for office and personally I planned my parenthood. I don't know where I stand on that issue.
2] the pervert socialist doesn't bother you Sanders is not a pervert,
a person whose sexual behavior is regarded as abnormal and unacceptable. He wrote an essay. He regrets writing it. He calls himself a democratic socialist. I do think he has the best intentions for the country out of all the candidates and the highest morals. My gut feeling is that he is an honest man.

3] Hillary defending a rapist of a 12 year old doesn't bother you. This does bother me. I understand that a lawyer is appointed to do the best they can for their client and that's part of the game but it's not a game when it comes to rape. So I don't know what to make of that issue.
4] I said God Bless You. I meant it. I'm not very religious but when situations or people look hopeless, I pray. I don't know why and that comes off as disingenuous.
5] The video is weird. Every parent and relative looks at their infant to see if they have someone's eyes, or nose or mouth. You feel blessed if they have your eyes. Trump goes in a direction I've never heard before. If you watched the video you might have been creeped out too. I was like a SNL skit. It's hard to find a piece on Trump that no one has seen before. That's what also makes it unique.

I am guessing that you do not know much about Sanders, or you would not give him such a shining compliment. I am not going to be mean and suggest that you are out of your mind. Sanders is a dirty old man/pervert. Even a recent lewd remark is evidence, when he made a comment about a young lady in the audience at one of his rallies. I'll let you look it up, because I linked it in another post.
To suggest that Sanders has the highest of morals and is honest, is proof that you know nothing about the commie. Why don't you research how he made his living for the first 40 years of his life before he started his first full-time job? And how can you suggest that he is honest when he wants to forcibly take money from everyone to pay for college and health care for the lazy. And I say lazy, because these kids do not want to work their way through college (like most of my generation) or even pay their loans back after they finish their education. Sanders is a dirty old commie. He is running amok, shouting about a revolution and you liberals are eating it up like you are some kind of hippy teenager at a flag burning demonstration.

Guest 04-07-2016 10:06 AM

Of Topic Warning:
You can't alway cubbyhole people. Tack for instance the Pope. Is he a liberal?

Guest 04-07-2016 10:17 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209716)
I am guessing that you do not know much about Sanders, or you would not give him such a shining compliment. I am not going to be mean and suggest that you are out of your mind. Sanders is a dirty old man/pervert. Even a recent lewd remark is evidence, when he made a comment about a young lady in the audience at one of his rallies. I'll let you look it up, because I linked it in another post.
To suggest that Sanders has the highest of morals and is honest, is proof that you know nothing about the commie. Why don't you research how he made his living for the first 40 years of his life before he started his first full-time job? And how can you suggest that he is honest when he wants to forcibly take money from everyone to pay for college and health care for the lazy. And I say lazy, because these kids do not want to work their way through college (like most of my generation) or even pay their loans back after they finish their education. Sanders is a dirty old commie. He is running amok, shouting about a revolution and you liberals are eating it up like you are some kind of hippy teenager at a flag burning demonstration.

I have read a lot about Sanders. I have seen many interviews. I don't see him contradicting himself or defending himself about allegations.

How much was tuition when you went to college? My state tuition was $350/yr. Big deal. I could make that washing dishes.


Young people were told to get a good job you need a good education. The whole story is that you need a good education that will prepare you for the computer, math and science fields. It's not easy and you need to be smart. That's where I steered my kids. They pay a lot of taxes because they make a lot of money.

Guest 04-07-2016 10:27 AM

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I found the same link last night. There are two things going on the legal and the victim. We all have a head and a heart.

I wonder what will happen in the future when every word you typed is recorded. Maybe people will get used to it, like pot. The first time I heard a president say "I did not inhale" was the first time someone in my generation sounded like many I knew. Now a candidate like Bush or Obama can say they used coke and it's not stopping their political career. I thought it was funny and pathetic [a little too late] that Jeb said he smoked pot.

I'll take my chances, and my future kin's chances with Sanders. Just running his ideas are getting some press.

You can empathize with a victim and still search out some kind of justice while being a good lawyer. It does not seem to me that a lawyer should try anything to get their client off. The culture in law schools in the 1970s and 1980s though did seem to stress objective gamesmanship and not empathy with the survivor/victim.

I do not see these matters as being problems for Clinton or Sanders now as legal education seems to be quite different in the 2010s with the extensive interest in survivors/victims rights in the places of higher education. I mean Sanders' article from the 1970s and Clinton's days as a defender of an alleged rapist of a 12 year old.

Guest 04-07-2016 10:39 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209729)
You can empathize with a victim and still search out some kind of justice while being a good lawyer. It does not seem to me that a lawyer should try anything to get their client off. The culture in law schools in the 1970s and 1980s though did seem to stress objective gamesmanship and not empathy with the survivor/victim.

I do not see these matters as being problems for Clinton or Sanders now as legal education seems to be quite different in the 2010s with the extensive interest in survivors/victims rights in the places of higher education. I mean Sanders' article from the 1970s and Clinton's days as a defender of an alleged rapist of a 12 year old.

And yet, the right is held to higher standards, right? A comment that Trump made 30 years ago is a point of contention, but a perverted essay by a socialist that claims to be moral, and then Hillary that is proclaiming a GOP war on women when she is the obvious perpetrator herself, are both off limits. Am I assuming correct?

I am not endeared to Trump, but I do see some hypocrisy broadcasting from the left.

Guest 04-07-2016 10:42 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209722)
Of Topic Warning:
You can't alway cubbyhole people. Tack for instance the Pope. Is he a liberal?

boy oh boy, I didn't proof read that at all. sorry
You can't always cubbyhole or label people. Take for instance the Pope. Is he a liberal?

Guest 04-07-2016 12:00 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209735)
And yet, the right is held to higher standards, right? A comment that Trump made 30 years ago is a point of contention, but a perverted essay by a socialist that claims to be moral, and then Hillary that is proclaiming a GOP war on women when she is the obvious perpetrator herself, are both off limits. Am I assuming correct?

I am not endeared to Trump, but I do see some hypocrisy broadcasting from the left.

At the risk of making you angrier I think you have blown things out of proportion.

Ask yourself "Why do you think Sanders is a pervert?" You have an essay that Sander's said was poorly written and regrets writing as a young man.

Why do you think voters have a problem with the way Trump has treated women? There's lot of evidence with what he has said and how he has acted over the years. It's not just that even as a baby Trump predicted that he hopes Tiffany looks like her mom in a sexy sort of way or if he was somebody else he would be interested in Ivanka. I've never heard a dad say either of those things.

The biggest problem is that this is the first time Trump is running for any office. He has no political record. So you are voting on trusting his good judgment and character.

I don't think Hillary has made any statements about any of the other candidates views on women. Maybe she has. Do you know?

I'm only speaking for myself and thinking out loud. I'm not trying to win a debate.

Guest 04-07-2016 12:05 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209724)

Young people were told to get a good job you need a good education. The whole story is that you need a good education that will prepare you for the computer, math and science fields. It's not easy and you need to be smart. That's where I steered my kids. They pay a lot of taxes because they make a lot of money.

That's the crux, most of the kids going to college aren't very smart. Laquanda from the projects isn't going to go to work for Goldman. She probably won't get a job at all. Because she doesn't know how to act.

Guest 04-07-2016 12:13 PM

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That's the crux, most of the kids going to college aren't very smart.

And how do you know that?

Guest 04-07-2016 12:29 PM

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And how do you know that?

Even Sanders made a statement where he said the kids today in college are just getting an education equivalent to a high school education that we had. It's about the only thing that I agreed with him on.

Guest 04-07-2016 12:32 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209729)
You can empathize with a victim and still search out some kind of justice while being a good lawyer. It does not seem to me that a lawyer should try anything to get their client off. The culture in law schools in the 1970s and 1980s though did seem to stress objective gamesmanship and not empathy with the survivor/victim.

I do not see these matters as being problems for Clinton or Sanders now as legal education seems to be quite different in the 2010s with the extensive interest in survivors/victims rights in the places of higher education. I mean Sanders' article from the 1970s and Clinton's days as a defender of an alleged rapist of a 12 year old.

I went to a Jesuit University, and the professors in my law classes said that it was a defense lawyer's responsibility to do everything (legal) in representng their client to achieve an innocent verdict. No matter what. They said that was a basic tenet in our legal system.

Guest 04-07-2016 12:35 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209785)
Even Sanders made a statement where he said the kids today in college are just getting an education equivalent to a high school education that we had. It's about the only thing that I agreed with him on.

During the debate Sanders claimed "A college degree today is the equivalent of what a high school degree was 50 years ago."

That means that you need at least need college degree to get a good job. Whereas 50 years ago you needed at least a high school degree.

You can go back to not agreeing with anything he said.


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