These Numbers Say A Third Party Can Win The Presidency

I've been hearing a lot about a third party run that only needs to take enough electoral votes away to keep both Trump and Hillary from getting enough to win the election. If this happens, then apparently the whole selection will be left up to the House of Representatives. It's possible for one candidate, such as Perry to just win Texas to take away enough that neither Trump or Hillary would have enough electoral to win. The article gives several scenarios where this could happen. If this happens, and it has happened in the past, then the total process for the election by the people will be taken away from us and given to one party, the controlling party of congress to make the decision for us.

Trump would not have to worry about a double cross at the RNC convention. All the Republicans would just smile and wish him well, all the while plotting behind his back to push Bernie to run or a conservative party run. Just to win a large electoral state or enough smaller states to keep either Hillary or Trump from winning. AND this could also blow up in their face and give the election to Hillary when there is a possibility that Trump could have won it.

Republicans need to think long and hard before making this choice for us. If this backfires, it will be the total annihilation of the Republican party.

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These Numbers Say A Third Party Can Win The Presidency

I've been hearing a lot about a third party run that only needs to take enough electoral votes away to keep both Trump and Hillary from getting enough to win the election. If this happens, then apparently the whole selection will be left up to the House of Representatives. It's possible for one candidate, such as Perry to just win Texas to take away enough that neither Trump or Hillary would have enough electoral to win. The article gives several scenarios where this could happen. If this happens, and it has happened in the past, then the total process for the election by the people will be taken away from us and given to one party, the controlling party of congress to make the decision for us.

Trump would not have to worry about a double cross at the RNC convention. All the Republicans would just smile and wish him well, all the while plotting behind his back to push Bernie to run or a conservative party run. Just to win a large electoral state or enough smaller states to keep either Hillary or Trump from winning. AND this could also blow up in their face and give the election to Hillary when there is a possibility that Trump could have won it.

Republicans need to think long and hard before making this choice for us. If this backfires, it will be the total annihilation of the Republican party.

It's too late...or it will be shortly to get on the ballot for many states. Yup TX: "The filing deadline may not be any later than 6:00 p.m. on December 14, 2015."

Too late.

The system is rigged, you should know that. If Trump isn't playing ball he will not win.

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It's too late...or it will be shortly to get on the ballot for many states. Yup TX: "The filing deadline may not be any later than 6:00 p.m. on December 14, 2015."

Too late.

The system is rigged, you should know that. If Trump isn't playing ball he will not win.

Nope, not too late. Many states have filing deadlines in Aug. All a third party needs to do is register in enough states that they can win to keep both Hillary and Trump from gaining enough electoral votes to win the election. Texas would probably be enough in itself, but several other states could do it. It does not take registering in ALL states in order to throw a monkey wrench into the election process. It takes 270 of the 538 electoral votes to win. If say Perry ran in Texas and Maybe Bernie ran in California and each won that state, there would be no winner in the election.

Romney and the establishment are attempting to organize this threat. If they do, then whoever owns congress gets to decide on who the next president will be.

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Nope, not too late. Many states have filing deadlines in Aug. All a third party needs to do is register in enough states that they can win to keep both Hillary and Trump from gaining enough electoral votes to win the election. Texas would probably be enough in itself, but several other states could do it. It does not take registering in ALL states in order to throw a monkey wrench into the election process. It takes 270 of the 538 electoral votes to win. If say Perry ran in Texas and Maybe Bernie ran in California and each won that state, there would be no winner in the election.

Romney and the establishment are attempting to organize this threat. If they do, then whoever owns congress gets to decide on who the next president will be.

According to this newsource:"It's too late to get an independent presidential candidate on the ballot in all 50 states — Texas' deadline passed last Monday....
Rick Wilson, a longtime Republican political consultant who has spent months waging war on Trump's candidacy, has been thinking differently about this problem.

The theory — and it's a wild one — is this: An independent presidential candidate doesn't need to be on the ballot in all 50 states (though ballot access can be resolved in other ways, including court action), Wilson says.

Silicon Valley Republicans say 2012 Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney's name has been mentioned — possibly on a ticket with Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas. But people with ties to Romney dismiss that out of hand.

"Mitt has a solid legacy now. The last thing he would do is tarnish it with some weird Hail Mary thing," said one person familiar with the matter.

And Cruz told reporters he has "no interest" in a third-party bid.

The candidate merely has to win a handful of states to deny either Trump or Clinton the requisite 270 electoral votes needed to win the presidency, said Wilson. If that happens, the House of Representatives would choose the next president — potentially the player-to-be-named-later."

Silicon Valley Republicans ask: What if there were a third-party candidate? - Recode

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According to this newsource:"It's too late to get an independent presidential candidate on the ballot in all 50 states — Texas' deadline passed last Monday....
Rick Wilson, a longtime Republican political consultant who has spent months waging war on Trump's candidacy, has been thinking differently about this problem.

The theory — and it's a wild one — is this: An independent presidential candidate doesn't need to be on the ballot in all 50 states (though ballot access can be resolved in other ways, including court action), Wilson says.

Silicon Valley Republicans say 2012 Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney's name has been mentioned — possibly on a ticket with Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas. But people with ties to Romney dismiss that out of hand.

"Mitt has a solid legacy now. The last thing he would do is tarnish it with some weird Hail Mary thing," said one person familiar with the matter.

And Cruz told reporters he has "no interest" in a third-party bid.

The candidate merely has to win a handful of states to deny either Trump or Clinton the requisite 270 electoral votes needed to win the presidency, said Wilson. If that happens, the House of Representatives would choose the next president — potentially the player-to-be-named-later."

Silicon Valley Republicans ask: What if there were a third-party candidate? - Recode

Many of the states have deadlines from Jun through Aug. All it would take is a couple of states registered and wins in those two or three states to put the whole process into the congress's hands. You don't have to be registered in ALL the states in order to run, and hose up the whole process.

Mitt Romney said in a speech earlier today that he is not actively seeking a third party candidate to enter the presidential race. In other words, no takers (IMO).

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Mitt Romney said in a speech earlier today that he is not actively seeking a third party candidate to enter the presidential race. In other words, no takers (IMO).

As much as the old time GOP establishment wants to sabotage Trumps win, it appears that no one wants to step up and take him on. Because they will also be crucified if they fail and destroy the Republican party. I predict that more and more of those indignant and insulted old time members are going to eventually have to be counted or lose their comfy positions. I don't care for Trump, but I started out not liking him at all. Now, I have to respect his ability to fight two major political parties and so far, has won. That's against some major odds. He earned my vote in the general.

Who on this forum thinks that Donald Trump and his minion of lawyers would stand idly by while a third-party candidate gets the nomination, especially after he wins the required number of delegates fair and square?

to think at this late date people are still hoping/planning for a 3rd party candidate is very telling and very sad.

Personal Best Regards:

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Who on this forum thinks that Donald Trump and his minion of lawyers would stand idly by while a third-party candidate gets the nomination, especially after he wins the required number of delegates fair and square?

It in the Constitution that IF no one gets the majority of the electoral votes (270 in this case) it goes to the House and they choose the next president. What could lawyers possibly do? Donald and Hillary will have the delegates, but it won't matter in the General if a third party pops up and takes one or two states and they can't get the 270 electoral votes. They don't have to win all the states or even the majority to keep Donald and Hillary out. They only have to keep them from getting enough electoral votes. Like I said before, who ever owns congress will decide on the next president, no matter what the people want. That's if they can find someone to do it.

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to think at this late date people are still hoping/planning for a 3rd party candidate is very telling and very sad.

Personal Best Regards:

These are the same people that will never admit that Barack Obama was a legitimate president.