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Guest 07-22-2016 03:31 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1258071)
No I admitted that both candidates are lying. The difference is that reps are actually buying into Trumps bullsh*t and believing his lies. Trump has no political policies so all he can do is make up stories and make up dooms-day ideas. Hillary at least can give us some policies and specifics.

But hey, good job again not being able to defend Trump as the reps continue to do.

Yeah, we've seen what the implementation of her policies have yielded. Take a look at her foreign policy "successes" in: Russia, Israel, Libya, Syria. Iran, Egypt, etc.

Guest 07-22-2016 03:33 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1258079)
Wow, great come back, except you are still not able to quite defend Trump and his blatant lies. Why would you want to back someone who constantly lies to your face??? You are making my point exactly, reps can't be converted because they are brainwashed into believing Trumps lies. Check the facts!!! I thought reps are supposed to be so moral and Christian but are ok Trumps lying???

You Dems will have a very difficult time convincing
people that Trump is a liar when your candidate Hillary
has so much difficulty mustering any degree of honesty!

Guest 07-22-2016 03:34 PM

She is not offering anything new --- she believes that overall things are pretty good .
All she is offering is more of the same .

Guest 07-22-2016 03:37 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1258095)
Ummm, again, check your facts. Comey didn't call Hillary a liar. And in fact said what she did wasn't illegal. Of course Trump says that it was illegal and once again lies to the American people because he knows better that the FBI

Yes when questioned Comey admitted Hillary
did not tell the truth.

Guest 07-22-2016 03:43 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1258079)
Wow, great come back, except you are still not able to quite defend Trump and his blatant lies. Why would you want to back someone who constantly lies to your face??? You are making my point exactly, reps can't be converted because they are brainwashed into believing Trumps lies. Check the facts!!! I thought reps are supposed to be so moral and Christian but are ok Trumps lying???

Only a Socialist could twist my points into such a ridiculous knot ..
However please continue on this site because your doing so takes one less Hillary soldier off the battle field .
And we thank you for doing so !:bowdown:

Guest 07-22-2016 03:57 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1258009)
Moral of story: It was the packing plant that was good for the town, but the illegals were not!
Apparently this happens if you break laws if they are enforced.
Why do you think management hired illegals?
Could it possibly to hold labor costs down, and profits up?

The answer to your question is, NO. Look what happened in Southern states that passed tough illegal immigration laws.

Alabama Illegal Immigrant Crackdown Destroys Farm Business | Mic

Farmers couldn't locals to do the work that illegal were doing, and they offered double the minimum wage.

If you don't think going after illegals aggressively will hurt our economy, you can't see the nose right in front of your face.

Guest 07-22-2016 04:10 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1258109)
You Dems will have a very difficult time convincing
people that Trump is a liar when your candidate Hillary
has so much difficulty mustering any degree of honesty!

Anyone that doesn't think Trump is a liar, and a con man just isn't looking. You can't convince a person, who isn't looking, of everything.

Has Hillary lied about any of Trump's claims to fame? Has she lied about any of Trump's statements of what he will do, if elected.

All he does is lie about her. I can't stand the woman. It is not right for a person running for the most important position in the country to defend herself against a bold face liar.

He said he wasn't going to lie in his acceptance speech, and all he did was lie.

Guest 07-22-2016 04:21 PM

He's a
 
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Posted by Guest (Post 1258147)
Anyone that doesn't think Trump is a liar, and a con man just isn't looking. You can't convince a person, who isn't looking, of everything.

Has Hillary lied about any of Trump's claims to fame? Has she lied about any of Trump's statements of what he will do, if elected.

All he does is lie about her. I can't stand the woman. It is not right for a person running for the most important position in the country to defend herself against a bold face liar.

He said he wasn't going to lie in his acceptance speech, and all he did was lie.

sociopath.

Guest 07-22-2016 04:25 PM

"All he does is lie about her. I can't stand the woman. It is not right for a person running for the most important position in the country to defend herself against a bold face liar.

And a lot of us, don't want the bold faced liar Hillary,
to be our President. We honestly would never know if she was being truthful or not. Scary to think about that!

Guest 07-22-2016 04:29 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1258158)
"All he does is lie about her. I can't stand the woman. It is not right for a person running for the most important position in the country to defend herself against a bold face liar.

And a lot of us, don't want the bold faced liar Hillary,
to be our President. We honestly would never know if she was being truthful or not. Scary to think about that!

It`s not about you . It`s not about your family . It`s not about women or Blacks , or Latinos or America .

It`s all about Hillary and her place in history as the first female president . It IS all about her Legacy .
Again if winning would have made her the second female elected to this office she would not be running . It`s all about her .

Guest 07-22-2016 04:35 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1258009)
Moral of story: It was the packing plant that was good for the town, but the illegals were not!
Apparently this happens if you break laws if they are enforced.
Why do you think management hired illegals?
Could it possibly to hold labor costs down, and profits up?

The Jewish sect did not mix with the locals. The Mexicans stayed by themselves. The Iowans did not mix with either culture.

The Jewish management actually recruited in Mexico and provided the false documents to the immigrants. That is why they were put in prison.

The Mexicans did not mix with locals and townies did not like them due to not knowing Spanish.

No one figured on the domino effect of what would happen if Immigration found out about the scheme of false documents.

Very interesting book. I recommend it! I also have relatives about 15 miles from Postville so I have been there several times.

Guest 07-22-2016 05:01 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1258139)
The answer to your question is, NO. Look what happened in Southern states that passed tough illegal immigration laws.

Alabama Illegal Immigrant Crackdown Destroys Farm Business | Mic

Farmers couldn't locals to do the work that illegal were doing, and they offered double the minimum wage.

If you don't think going after illegals aggressively will hurt our economy, you can't see the nose right in front of your face.

Any bright person could understand that by giving these illegals amnesty and making them legal, will put them in the same category as those others that refuse to work on the farms. They will LEGALLY price themselves into better jobs in the market, taking our jobs. The farmers are just going to have to start paying proper wages, regardless of what it does to our prices. Anyone can see that. Making illegals legitimate will only expedite more unemployment for our lower level folks that can only qualify for those jobs. Yes, it will hurt our economy by making them legal We only allow so many immigrants into our country at a time. They stand in line. They are the type you would hire, not criminals that want to take short cuts.

Can you not see the logic? Or are you just ignoring the obvious?

Guest 07-22-2016 05:48 PM

OK how about we cut the BS stories about towns drying up and farms going broke because of losing the illehals.

How about we make all the democrats feel good and just say to hell with who ever is here now.

BUT.......starting tomorrow, we are going to 100% enforce the laws on who can or cannot enter this country.

Whether we put up a wall or not will be determined by what is needed to stop the aliens from coming across.....wall, wild dogs, snipers, etc.
Put some :censored: fear in the hearts of those attempting to cross ILLEGALLY.

Some things are easy to stop like the BS catch and release program.

Fixing the illegal immigration problem is easy....just enforce the existing laws on immigration!!!!

Yes, it is just that easy. Don't keep filling the air with BS reasons why it cannot be done. Either add value by helping figure how to get it done or just get the :censored: outta the way and let some real Americans get to work on it.

Guest 07-22-2016 09:06 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257921)
If Trump is going to be the "Law and Order" president, how is he going to stem the violence in the urban cities? Is he going to confiscate guns from urban youths? Is he going to have police crackdowns on urban youths? That would be divisive and lead to much more violence.

Trump just gave a wish list but offered absolutely NO SUBSTANCE.

What would he be able to get through Congress? ZIPPO!

Well then, why don't we just wall off the inner cities and be done with them? We can't enforce the laws there so why not wall it in? UNsafe zones will be increasing as the numbers of minorities grows.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257948)
Sounds like Trump channeled his inner Nixon. From the 1968 acceptance speech:

"As we look at America, we see cities enveloped in smoke and flame. We hear sirens in the night. We see Americans dying on distant battlefields abroad. We see Americans hating each other; fighting each other; killing each other at home. And as we see and hear these things, millions of Americans cry out in anguish. Did we come all this way for this?"

Yes...did we come all this way for this? Ever since the 60s and civil rights, what HAS changed? For the better... Nothing. It's gotten worse as their numbers have grown.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257967)
How would YOU like it if the Sumter County police stopped YOU on the streets of The Villages and frisked YOU "up against the wall" in front of your friends - not just one time but rather every time they saw you?

As to illegal immigrants, are you planning to round up 12 million, put them into concertina wire compounds, and bus them across A border, and dump them? They would be back in the USA before the bus returned! Maybe, kneecap them so walking would be more difficult - after all, that is the Republican way.

If I was walking along Jackson street in Wildwood, or MLK Blvd in ANY town, I'm out of place and would probably be asked what I was doing there.

12 million? Ha ha ha...are you kidding? Those are the 1990s numbers. There are over 100 million immigrants or children of immigrants in the US right now, 1/3 the population. And you wonder WHY I'm so urgent in my pleas for us to all work together to SAVE America from turning into Mexico II. Below age 6 the new MAJORITY is Hispanic.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257987)
Stop and Frisk is unconstitutional. End of story.

As for the illegal immigrants - create a pathway for legal residence for them. No, not citizenship. Let them work, pay taxes, their children born in the USA are constitutionally citizens, if criminality happens - deport the criminal after doing the sentence in USA.

This decriminalizes illegals and lets them work and pay paxes.

You're not happy with over 100 million of them here? 1/3 the population being Hispanic does alarm you? Anchor babies destroyed us.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257994)
If anyone wants to know what happens when a large population of illegals are deported, read a book called "Postville,A Clash Of Cultures". It tells of a very large Kosher meat packing plant in a small Iowa town that was staffed by Mexican line workers. One day an immigration raid was held, the Mexicans were deported, and the Jewish management jailed, the packing plant closed, and the little town dries up and shrivels. No more economy for the townspeople.

Be honest and tell the WHOLE story...in context.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1258017)
Because all establishment politicians would not do it.
And that is why we have an outsider like Trump
as a presidential candidate.
Millions of Americans are fed up with not being
heard and sold out by politicians of both parties.

Believe me, Trump will sell you out too. If he's elected, he's playing ball. He may scream and yell that he can't get anything through, but as usual, it's all theater. This election is "reality TV".

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Posted by Guest (Post 1258139)
The answer to your question is, NO. Look what happened in Southern states that passed tough illegal immigration laws.

Alabama Illegal Immigrant Crackdown Destroys Farm Business | Mic

Farmers couldn't locals to do the work that illegal were doing, and they offered double the minimum wage.

If you don't think going after illegals aggressively will hurt our economy, you can't see the nose right in front of your face.

Welfare pays up to $60,000 a year in benefits, THAT is why the jobs go unfilled.

The nose in front of your face is 1/3 the US population is an immigrant or the child of an immigrant. THEY will be the majority, THEY will be in power. Your grandchildren will curse you.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1258180)
Any bright person could understand that by giving these illegals amnesty and making them legal, will put them in the same category as those others that refuse to work on the farms. They will LEGALLY price themselves into better jobs in the market, taking our jobs. The farmers are just going to have to start paying proper wages, regardless of what it does to our prices. Anyone can see that. Making illegals legitimate will only expedite more unemployment for our lower level folks that can only qualify for those jobs. Yes, it will hurt our economy by making them legal We only allow so many immigrants into our country at a time. They stand in line. They are the type you would hire, not criminals that want to take short cuts.

Can you not see the logic? Or are you just ignoring the obvious?

No...welfare needs to be cut so it doesn't pay the equivalent of a $60,000 a year job.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1258191)
OK how about we cut the BS stories about towns drying up and farms going broke because of losing the illehals.

How about we make all the democrats feel good and just say to hell with who ever is here now.

BUT.......starting tomorrow, we are going to 100% enforce the laws on who can or cannot enter this country.

Whether we put up a wall or not will be determined by what is needed to stop the aliens from coming across.....wall, wild dogs, snipers, etc.
Put some :censored: fear in the hearts of those attempting to cross ILLEGALLY.

Some things are easy to stop like the BS catch and release program.

Fixing the illegal immigration problem is easy....just enforce the existing laws on immigration!!!!

Yes, it is just that easy. Don't keep filling the air with BS reasons why it cannot be done. Either add value by helping figure how to get it done or just get the :censored: outta the way and let some real Americans get to work on it.

Too late, they're already here...over 100 million of them.

Immigrant Population Hits Record 42.1 Million in Second Quarter of 2015 | Center for Immigration Studies They say there are 42 million immigrants, add their "citizen children" and it's over 100 million.

They are on their way to being the majority and telling US what to do.

Guest 07-23-2016 07:14 AM

...and the person who posted that racist rant is exactly the kind of uneducated person that Trumpanzee is pandering to for votes.

Very similar to Adolf Hitler in pre-war Germany stirring up fears from the uneducated against the "mongrel races" like Jews, gypsies, non- Aryans. Very scary similarly.


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