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Guest 10-05-2008 07:00 AM

Oh Osh, Don't feel bad for me. I live in TV..and you don't.:1rotfl:;)

Guest 10-05-2008 10:42 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 164508)
Sorry Chels .... Respectfully ... I wasn't implying that because she is a colorful character, she is vice presidential material. I don't think that.

But I am saying that she is the most interesting and charismatic candidate to surface in a long, long time.

And I am definitely saying that I see her as a being in the political scene for some time to come. If she doesn't become VP, we haven't seen the last of Sarah Palin!

Good point!

It appears that those who are the most upset with her are so because she is a conservative, and that runs counter to what some want/expect/hope a woman in politics will be.

Expecting someone to "fit" an image designed by some, and that person not mirroring that image, and the person still gets a following of respect, just is a hard pill for some and the response is always prejudice to some degree.

John F. Kennedy, Colin Powell and Sandra Day O'Connor and Antonin Scalia ran into it as well....

Guest 10-05-2008 12:28 PM

Really?? I'll bet you are thrilled. It is a wonderful place to live. Back in the day, I figured you would never leave the grandkids.
Congratulations on your pending purchase.

Guest 10-05-2008 02:24 PM

Hockey Mom!
 
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Posted by Guest (Post 164579)
Good point!

It appears that those who are the most upset with her are so because she is a conservative, and that runs counter to what some want/expect/hope a woman in politics will be.

SteveZ I agree with your first paragraph and not the rest. And Palin is an extremist. I don't have a preconceived image of exactly what our first woman VP or President should be, but I can clearly see in Palin what I do not want it to be. It is indeed like a bad Disney movie, Hockey Mom becomes President!

It's much too dangerous a time, both economically and militarily. (Not that there would ever be a good time! LOL)

Guest 10-05-2008 04:01 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 164628)
SteveZ I agree with your first paragraph and not the rest. And Palin is an extremist. I don't have a preconceived image of exactly what our first woman VP or President should be, but I can clearly see in Palin what I do not want it to be. It is indeed like a bad Disney movie, Hockey Mom becomes President!

It's much too dangerous a time, both economically and militarily. (Not that there would ever be a good time! LOL)

No more dangerous than having a lawyer who has never run a business, never been in the military, never served as a public administrator at any level of government, and served less than half-time on-the-job as a first-term US Senator becoming the US' Chief Executive.

Guest 10-05-2008 04:34 PM

Steve....you are wasting your time using logic.....
 
She or who ever you want to discuss matters little....as long as it is the other party....forget it...........it is that simple.
I have a couple of staunch partisan kids and I don't care what one wants to discuss....all they want to talk about is their view of the other party's shortcomings....I am being polite when I allude to it as "talking" ..... it is always.....ALWAYS.... bashing only....it doesn't matter the subject.
I personally refuse to get into a discussion with them because it never is!!!!!
As the saying goes...it is like :cus: in the wind!

BTK

Guest 10-05-2008 07:02 PM

Dangerous
 
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Posted by Guest (Post 164653)
No more dangerous than having a lawyer who has never run a business, never been in the military, never served as a public administrator at any level of government, and served less than half-time on-the-job as a first-term US Senator becoming the US' Chief Executive.

That indeed would be dangerous!!!!!!!!!!!

Guest 10-05-2008 07:27 PM

I read today on a Political website that when Palin was a mayor that she ok'd that a rape victim had to pay for their own rape tests! Palin, when asked said that she didn't know anything about it!! But,she only managed a town of around 6000 people so how hard was it that this important fact, besides she can't be that concerned about a rape victim if she thought it was alright to add that extra burden of paying for those tests. Another thing that bothered me during the debate was when she blurted out," I've only been at this for 5 WEEKS" !!!! WOW!!!!

Guest 10-05-2008 07:52 PM

Let's see.....do you think she was making jest......
 
about running for VP or is there some other sinister hidden meaning.

As I have challenged on other threads if folks are going to drop to picking fly specks outta da pepper.....then use that same degree of analysis on the 'O'ther candidates....others in congress or the senate.
You will quickly find out there is one :cus: of a lot more real concern than Palin presents.
Don't y'all get weary of bashing the opposition?
Use that same doubting, questioning attitude on some things in Obama's past....Bidens....__________ fill in ant politicians name and see what you scrape up.

BTK

Guest 10-05-2008 08:06 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 164707)
I read today on a Political website that when Palin was a mayor that she ok'd that a rape victim had to pay for their own rape tests! Palin, when asked said that she didn't know anything about it!! But,she only managed a town of around 6000 people so how hard was it that this important fact, besides she can't be that concerned about a rape victim if she thought it was alright to add that extra burden of paying for those tests. Another thing that bothered me during the debate was when she blurted out," I've only been at this for 5 WEEKS" !!!! WOW!!!!

I hate to get into this, but were you in any way concerned when a man who has been in congress for 26 years mentioned the WRONG PRESIDENT and said he came on tv, WHICH DID NOT EXIST, to talk to the american people ? Did that bother you ?

Or when Sen Obama mentioned 57 states ? Both of these seem simple to me but they happened but that does not bother you ????

Holy cow are we digging for things on this lady.....We have discussed her entire family...EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM in detail...we have discussed her dress, her motherhood and every single detail of her life, YET.....

YET....everyone is offended when we talk about Sen Obama and his background....we are told that is not an issue...his socialist training...his shady, cloudy and constant changing background is not an issue !!! He, who has no legislative background except as a state senator where if you check his record he took very few stands on anything. He is a professional office runner.....and we tear apart someone who was a mayor, and lest you forget the Governor of one of our states.

It bothered you during the debate when she was honest...would you prefer the old tradition of politics where the subject is changed but more smoothly...is that what we want...the smoothie ?

You accuse her of being unconcerned about a rape case years ago, yet you folks ignore Sen Obama's ties to a black activist hate church because after 20 years when forced to do so he rebuked ? You make this accusations against her but ignore the fact that Sen Obama was the 2 largest recepient from the Fannie Mae folks that were corrupt...this is all ok with you ????

I am sorry...it is difficult for me not to vent like this when I hear people post this stuff and then the same folks DONT CARE A DIDDLY ABOUT THE MAN THEY WANT TO BE PRESIDENT and who is giving him money or who he associates with.

You are happier with a community organizer...please read what they do....than a Governor ? You want a man to be your President who has been running for office his entire life...not serving and getting things done...RUNNING for office while this woman was SERVING in office ?

You would rather have a man who had all his opponents thrown off the ballot than beat them in Illinois rather than a person who ran and defeated an incumbent ?

I am sorry....I cannot fathom an american citizen who says these kind of things....be against someone or for someone but please....seems if this woman looked in the camera wrong someone has to post about it, but Sen Biden can lie as he did during the debate and NOT ONE SINGLE WORD..that seems to be ok ! He has a entire career of making large mistakes but that is fine..at least he didnt keep his children in the sun in The Villages...at least he doesnt have an accent (wow..eliminate from any office anyone from Alaska now)..at least he was just like all the other politicians we complain about....we can forgive his many many errors and lying, but not all the stuff that Gov Palin is guilty of !

WOW

Guest 10-05-2008 08:26 PM

Oh,and for you who are concerned about Gov Palin ....this video should warm your heart.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUEQz5dltmI

Guest 10-05-2008 08:31 PM

And again to warm your hearts.....remember that you cant say anything about Sen Obama or you are a racist....well,now you can say that Gov Palin is a racist according to article now coming out...yes this is going to be wonderful...marching kids parading and praising Sen Obama as in the video and if you criticize you are a racist..isnt this heart warming ?>

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

Guest 10-05-2008 09:15 PM

Palin saying that Obama pals around with terrorists simply is a lie....her saying that she can see Russia from her house is a lie. Saying that Obama voted 94 times to raise taxes...is misleading. Saying that he voted against funding for the troops is misleading.

The worm has turned an McCain is desparate...they have tried to find a greater link to Ayers and it isn't there. They were on a boards together and Ayers gave him 200.00 for his first campaign. The records that were sealed have been opened ...nothing there.

Lets talk about the issues....lets talk about the 750,000 jobs lost this year alone. Lets talk about how our 401K's have been affected. The free market trickle down economy doesn't work...as W's father said it is Voodoo economics.

Less than 30 days to go and McCain has to get ugly...its his only hope.

Guest 10-05-2008 09:26 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 164734)
Palin saying that Obama pals around with terrorists simply is a lie....her saying that she can see Russia from her house is a lie. Saying that Obama voted 94 times to raise taxes...is misleading. Saying that he voted against funding for the troops is misleading.

The worm has turned an McCain is desparate...they have tried to find a greater link to Ayers and it isn't there. They were on a boards together and Ayers gave him 200.00 for his first campaign. The records that were sealed have been opened ...nothing there.

Lets talk about the issues....lets talk about the 750,000 jobs lost this year alone. Lets talk about how our 401K's have been affected. The free market trickle down economy doesn't work...as W's father said it is Voodoo economics.

Less than 30 days to go and McCain has to get ugly...its his only hope.


Of course you bypass and excuse the lies told by Sen Biden...those are just fine.

Gotta tell you...have researched Sen Obama quite a bit....if the press will allow any of this to surface (they resisted the Rev Wright stuff for a long time),......it will change the election as we find out who Sen Obama really is.

I just posted a speech given at a communist party gathering in 1997 where Sen Obama was mentioned and part of the speech said..."At some point in the future, a teacher will add to her syllabus Barack’s memoir and instruct her students to read it alongside Frank Marshall Davis’ equally affecting memoir, "Living the Blues" and when that day comes, I’m sure a future student will not only examine critically the Frankenstein monsters that US imperialism created in order to subdue Communist parties but will also be moved to come to this historic and wonderful archive in order to gain insight on what has befallen this complex and intriguing planet on which we reside."

Comfy feeling isnt it ? I suppose Gov Palin's family pales in the face of this kind of stuff !

By the way,visit factcheck to see the lies that Sen Biden told...I would not even bring it up because it is the nature of politics, but only do as you seem to think that Gov Palin is all by her lonely. Of course his gaffes are cute.

Oh, and while you are checking facts...see who is #2 on thelist of those who got the most money from Fannie Mae.....and while you are checking facts, find out who was calling for investigations into these agencies two years ago.

And so on, but you listen not....

Guest 10-05-2008 10:15 PM

For You . . .
 
Bucco, here's an interesting article that will warm YOUR heart.

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjoh...ainswashed.htm

Enjoy!


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