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Guest 07-30-2009 09:31 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 217439)
I believe his last name is Obama. TARP was done by the Bush Administration and the stimulus package seems to starting to work. The Dow is climbing back and profits seem to be coming up. Unemployment is still a problem that needs to be addressed.

As for me being an Obama drone...hardly I was and still am a Hillary girl. I warned my friends about several things in Obama's platform. However, would I vote for Sarah Palin....LOL.

So I will ask you directly....Is Barrack Obama an America citizen?

Stimulus seems to be working? Where in the heck do you find such evidence? I have noticed a push in the MSM to cheerlead a propaganda type recovery but the facts are rather dismal, to say the least. Some economists predict the economy may level off and hit bottom sometime in 2010. Unemployment has not peaked and may very well be over 10% by years end.
It seems the tone of the media depends who is in the White House. In 2003, when America was recovering from 9/11, the media continually beat the drums about a "jobless recovery" even though hundreds of thousands of jobs were being created. On top of that, unemployment figures were always punctuated with figures from the unemployed that fell off the radar. They would say that unemployment was actually 11-12%.
Well, here in 2009 the MSM never mentions the people whose unemployment checks have run out or the people who have stopped looking for work.The figures now would be about 16-18% unemployed.
The moral of the story is take the MSM's "facts" with a grain of salt.
Imagine the headlines if a Republican was in the White House today?

Guest 07-30-2009 12:00 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 217439)
I believe his last name is Obama. TARP was done by the Bush Administration and the stimulus package seems to starting to work. The Dow is climbing back and profits seem to be coming up. Unemployment is still a problem that needs to be addressed.

As for me being an Obama drone...hardly I was and still am a Hillary girl. I warned my friends about several things in Obama's platform. However, would I vote for Sarah Palin....LOL.

So I will ask you directly....Is Barrack Obama an America citizen?

Even Bill-O says the birth cert issue is ludicrous.... can you imagine that Cologal.... you and Bill-O agree!

Guest 07-30-2009 01:48 PM

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Even Bill-O says the birth cert issue is ludicrous.... can you imagine that Cologal.... you and Bill-O agree!

Hard to believe isn't?

Thanks...its my big laugh for today.

Guest 07-30-2009 02:56 PM

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I work in the industry HIPPA drives me nuts...I have to review interface files when they don't work but they contain patient information. Hospital won't allow us to have modem access but expect support. Its nuts.

After reviewing some of your posts , I feel your Hospital is right in their assessment........
Could be just me but they might feel your spending to much time laughing instead of reading......
Just a thought , fumar

Guest 07-30-2009 09:44 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 217453)
I believe that both the Democrats and Republicans use the same tactics which has been my point all along.

You have once again dodged the real questions and hidden behind BS. I asked if, "Is jamming a bill through a Democrat and not a Republican tactic? Your citation proved this is definitely an exclusively Democrat tactic, but you refuse to deal with this truthfully." You answer that they are both guilty without citing a single source, including the one you cited in your original post. Is it too much to ask for an honest answer, citing even one example where the Republicans have done this. You, inadvertently, and I, with knowledge, both cited Democrat examples of this. Don't tell me that both do it - SHOW ME IF YOU CAN ONE CASE WHEN REPUBLICANS DID THIS! If not, then please agree, in the interest of honestly, admit that you are an 'Obama drone', despite your previous denials.

You first contended that TARP and the stimulus bill were the same thing. When your error was pointed out to you, you then agreed that TARP and the stimulus bill were different. The Obama administration is on record that we have still to see the effects of the stimulus bill - unfortunately, I agree with them. The effects of the stimulus bill will include Weimar Republic like inflation and economic collapse. You, on the other hand, want to attribute economy’s uptick to the stimulus bill TARP has already done its job and the credit markets are up and running again. Just as the pullout from Iraq was negotiated by the Bush administration and now BO/BS wants to take credit for it.

It’s time, arguably long past time, to put party differences aside, and deal with the problems that face us today – a unimaginable balance of trade, total energy dependence upon other countries, the bankruptcy of Medicare, Social Security and virtually every local, state and national pension program. Nationalizing healthcare, the automobile industry and large parts of the financial markets is not meeting this challenge. This is simply promoting socialism, communism or National Socialism – take your choice of labels – they are all the same in the end.

Guest 07-30-2009 10:21 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 217579)
You have once again dodged the real questions and hidden behind BS. I asked if, "Is jamming a bill through a Democrat and not a Republican tactic? Your citation proved this is definitely an exclusively Democrat tactic, but you refuse to deal with this truthfully." You answer that they are both guilty without citing a single source, including the one you cited in your original post. Is it too much to ask for an honest answer, citing even one example where the Republicans have done this. You, inadvertently, and I, with knowledge, both cited Democrat examples of this. Don't tell me that both do it - SHOW ME IF YOU CAN ONE CASE WHEN REPUBLICANS DID THIS! If not, then please agree, in the interest of honestly, admit that you are an 'Obama drone', despite your previous denials.

You first contended that TARP and the stimulus bill were the same thing. When your error was pointed out to you, you then agreed that TARP and the stimulus bill were different. The Obama administration is on record that we have still to see the effects of the stimulus bill - unfortunately, I agree with them. The effects of the stimulus bill will include Weimar Republic like inflation and economic collapse. You, on the other hand, want to attribute economy’s uptick to the stimulus bill TARP has already done its job and the credit markets are up and running again. Just as the pullout from Iraq was negotiated by the Bush administration and now BO/BS wants to take credit for it.

It’s time, arguably long past time, to put party differences aside, and deal with the problems that face us today – a unimaginable balance of trade, total energy dependence upon other countries, the bankruptcy of Medicare, Social Security and virtually every local, state and national pension program. Nationalizing healthcare, the automobile industry and large parts of the financial markets is not meeting this challenge. This is simply promoting socialism, communism or National Socialism – take your choice of labels – they are all the same in the end.

I really can no longer follow your logic....both parties use the filibuster, place holds on president nominees, assign earmarks in the dark of night and ram rod bills...when they are in power. It is called politics....

Just as the pullout from Iraq was negotiated by the Bush administration and now BO/BS wants to take credit for it. You must be joking...the Iraq Status of Forces agreement required the US to be out by 2011...This is Bush's war and always will be. I have family that were wounded in this stupid war. And we will never forget how Bush, Cheney and Rice lied lied and lied about WMD and a nuclear program. Total BS.

The economy is coming around...the Fed Chairman had a townhall meeting about this over the last couple of days. Jobs need to be created but the Dow is up over the low.

You all can repeat the Republican talking points like a drum beat but I am called an Obama drone.... seems you might need a mirror.

Guest 07-30-2009 10:26 PM

I missed this .....

If you think we should put politics aside and get working on things why after Obama made changes to the stimulus bill did not 1 Republican vote for it?

Why did Jindal vote against the bill but show up a couple of days ago with big cardboard check signed by him...but it was money from the stimulus package.

Hypocrites....

Neither party is blameless.....

Enough!

Guest 07-30-2009 11:09 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 217587)
I really can no longer follow your logic....both parties use the filibuster, place holds on president nominees, assign earmarks in the dark of night and ram rod bills...when they are in power. It is called politics....

Just as the pullout from Iraq was negotiated by the Bush administration and now BO/BS wants to take credit for it. You must be joking...the Iraq Status of Forces agreement required the US to be out by 2011...This is Bush's war and always will be. I have family that were wounded in this stupid war. And we will never forget how Bush, Cheney and Rice lied lied and lied about WMD and a nuclear program. Total BS.

The economy is coming around...the Fed Chairman had a townhall meeting about this over the last couple of days. Jobs need to be created but the Dow is up over the low.

You all can repeat the Republican talking points like a drum beat but I am called an Obama drone.... seems you might need a mirror.

Let me remind you that everybody voted for the war and everybody had the same intelligent reports.
The economy is not coming around...it has to hit bottom first.

As for lies.....Obama has said more lies in his first 6 months then the last 10 presidents have ever uttered.

Guest 07-31-2009 07:53 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 217587)
I really can no longer follow your logic....both parties use the filibuster, place holds on president nominees, assign earmarks in the dark of night and ram rod bills...when they are in power. It is called politics....

Just as the pullout from Iraq was negotiated by the Bush administration and now BO/BS wants to take credit for it. You must be joking...the Iraq Status of Forces agreement required the US to be out by 2011...This is Bush's war and always will be. I have family that were wounded in this stupid war. And we will never forget how Bush, Cheney and Rice lied lied and lied about WMD and a nuclear program. Total BS.

The economy is coming around...the Fed Chairman had a townhall meeting about this over the last couple of days. Jobs need to be created but the Dow is up over the low.

You all can repeat the Republican talking points like a drum beat but I am called an Obama drone.... seems you might need a mirror.

I'm through with this. When you finally decide that you can honestly answer questions - PM me. Until then.


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