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justjim 01-15-2017 08:42 AM

Be very careful what you wish for.

dillywho 01-15-2017 10:07 AM

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Oh my how quaint of you ... the country came together despite Obama. Your knowledge of recent history is incredibly lame. It is better to say that despite the GOP Congress not working with Obama he succeeded anyway.

And you think ole Harry Reid burying anything remotely Republican and not even bringing it before the Senate for a vote is working together? Kinda hard to vote for or against something when not even given the opportunity.

What about Pelosi's reasoning that they won't even consider anything written by a Republican?

Yep, that's the Republicans not working with Obama.

Don Baldwin 01-15-2017 11:39 AM

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And you think ole Harry Reid burying anything remotely Republican and not even bringing it before the Senate for a vote is working together? Kinda hard to vote for or against something when not even given the opportunity.

What about Pelosi's reasoning that they won't even consider anything written by a Republican?

Yep, that's the Republicans not working with Obama.

It's a game...it's theater to make you THINK there is "honest" representation. EVERYTHING that is important to them gets done. It's the little social bullsh!t issues that they fight over. Gay rights, marriage, welfare, etc.

janmcn 01-15-2017 11:53 AM

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Do you have something against working folk? You seem to think that if the Democrats block a replacement, just for spite that it is a good thing. I really don't think they will block a new program. Anyone of them knows that the Republicans are saving their butts by repealing a program that is about to implode. I already know that Sen Manchin will vote for a new bill. They are not all petulant Obama groupies. Besides, the new bill will be bipartisan in creation.



As Sen Chuck Schumer famously said "When pigs fly" or as Gen Colin Powell said "You broke it, you own it".

It's always good to hear from a poster who has a direct line to a senator commenting he will vote for a bill which hasn't been written yet.

dillywho 01-15-2017 02:50 PM

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As Sen Chuck Schumer famously said "When pigs fly" or as Gen Colin Powell said "You broke it, you own it".

It's always good to hear from a poster who has a direct line to a senator commenting he will vote for a bill which hasn't been written yet.

Maybe he doe have a direct line.

dave harris 01-15-2017 03:19 PM

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All this BS so about 50 million worthless minorities can stay "healthy" so we can KEEP housing them, feeding them, and supporting their kids.

I hope some day your down and out, and it can happen real easy, then you will change your tone. I paray for people like you.

dave harris 01-15-2017 03:23 PM

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Do you have something against working folk? You seem to think that if the Democrats block a replacement, just for spite that it is a good thing. I really don't think they will block a new program. Anyone of them knows that the Republicans are saving their butts by repealing a program that is about to implode. I already know that Sen Manchin will vote for a new bill. They are not all petulant Obama groupies. Besides, the new bill will be bipartisan in creation.

Tell me how it is going to explode. And I don't want your opinion, I want facts.

dave harris 01-15-2017 03:25 PM

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the utter BS of this comment is driven directly by how much Fox news you watch.

Obamacare needs fixed, not replaced. Why not just change the things you don't like and keep that which you do. Why do we have to make these things so hard and party driven.

Some common sense comes into the picture.

dirtbanker 01-15-2017 03:27 PM

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Tell me how it is going to explode. And I don't want your opinion, I want facts.

Did someone say it was going to EXPLODE??

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dirtbanker 01-15-2017 03:28 PM

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I hope some day your down and out, and it can happen real easy, then you will change your tone. I paray for people like you.

Please don't paray for any of us...

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dave harris 01-15-2017 03:30 PM

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Why fix it when it is easier to replace it with something that is NOT two thousand pages long and nobody has ever read the whole thing? We can still have decent health care without having to justify preserving a NAME. If the ego is so great that there is a need by the left to preserve a name of a program that near destroyed America, what is the point? SO that the left can feel that they have redeemed their racist selves in the eyes of their peers. Kind of like Hollywood patting themselves on the back by voting to give each other trophies and awards. What does it do for the regular people?

Taking the salt and dirt out of sea water makes it drinking water. Taking the crap and wealth redistribution out of Obamacare makes it health care. Yes, the new plan will still be health care, just not all the gov imposed and subsidized crap that is hurting America. I am surprised that the left would insist on keeping the label Obamacare after seeing how it has almost destroyed our economy and the middle class.

The Republicans were locked out of the creation of Obiecare when they had some good input for it. Now that the shoe is on the other foot and the Republicans are inviting the left in to work WITH them on creating a decent replacement, the left not only refuses but is trying to disrupt the country. Why does the left insist on destroying the fabric of what holds America together? The Republicans learned, so why can't the Democrats learn? Are they so hell bent on socialism that they are ignoring how great America once was? Republicans did not refuse to work with the Democrats. The Democrats were insisting that America be Europe and Republicans resisted. The left has gone off the track in an attempt to carry too many passengers along with it.

Obamacare is doomed, regardless of whether or not it is replaced. The left doesn't even want to know about it. Congress (Democrats) stole almost a trillion bucks from Medicare/SS to pay for Medicaid. The states that opted in for the program were given start up money for Medicaid by the gov. That was temporary. Now, the money has to come from the state to subsidize the Obamacare version of Medicaid and that means that each state participating MUST increase state taxes in order to pay for Obamacare/Medicaid. Those states are going to hit the middle class really hard, because it is the middle class that pays a lot of state taxes, including property taxes and fuel taxes, etc. The left is oblivious to this and will attempt to ignorantly deny it until someone draws them a picture. Someone has to pay for ObamaCare and the cost is high. That is why it is so hard to find a replacement that will not make all the gov subsidized addicted have to go cold turkey. The middle class has been hit the hardest by Obiecare and that is why Hillary lost.
It is time for the Democrats to come back from the far, radical left of socialism and become the great American DemocratIC party it once proudly was before the radical socialists destroy what Democrats used to stand for.

Your post shows your a complete idiot. "a program that near destroyed America" What a buffoon!

dirtbanker 01-15-2017 03:35 PM

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Your post shows your a complete idiot. "a program that near destroyed America" What a buffoon!

You might want to work on your reading comprehension and improve your spelling before you go around calling people idiots and buffoons...

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dillywho 01-15-2017 04:34 PM

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I hope some day your down and out, and it can happen real easy, then you will change your tone. I paray for people like you.

Temporarily, down and out is one thing. Living off the backs of others as a lifestyle is not. Helping the first get back up is not the problem.

Fredster 01-15-2017 06:49 PM

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Temporarily, down and out is one thing. Living off the backs of others as a lifestyle is not. Helping the first get back up is not the problem.

:BigApplause:

Don Baldwin 01-16-2017 05:25 AM

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Your post shows your a complete idiot. "a program that near destroyed America" What a buffoon!

How about the programs that ARE destroying America...affirmative action and quotas.


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