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Guest 04-16-2010 01:49 PM

Donna,I'm afraid your intense hatred for Pres Obama has messed with your mind. Do you really believe that "jobs created by tax money are not jobs" that teaching,police work,firemen,are not jobs. Tht's really nonsense!

Guest 04-16-2010 01:53 PM

Also Donna as far as paying for my salary it is the "slackers" as you like to call them. Many of them pay property taxes that fund education.

Guest 04-16-2010 02:08 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 259906)
Donna,I'm afraid your intense hatred for Pres Obama has messed with your mind. Do you really believe that "jobs created by tax money are not jobs" that teaching,police work,firemen,are not jobs. Tht's really nonsense!

Private sector jobs create real money that pays public servants.

Guest 04-16-2010 02:10 PM

For Bk...how are you punishing me? with your words...Agrowing number of working Americansare contributing little and taking alot. Then you call me a moocher.Middle class entitlements are a tumor. Now I'm a cancer.Massive entitlements for the middle class. Now I'm a pig. Middle class escape paying taxes. Now I'm a thief. So,now I understand your feelings for me and my fellow middle class workers: We are moochers,cancerous,stealing pigs who are solely responsible for all that is wrong in America.
You know when I was serving in Viet Nam I met lots of middle class men and women and lots of poor folks also. I wonder what they would think of someone calling them names like that.

Guest 04-16-2010 03:54 PM

waynet, let's get one thing straight. I NEVER said anything about you.

I asked cologal to explain a post she made and you volunteered an answer. That is fine. In your answer you represented that I had done something personally to punish you.

The only thing I have said to you was to ask how I was punishing you and how I was contributing to you being brought down by the government (which you never answered).

I deliberately go out of my way to be polite with everyone on this forum whether I agree with them or not. The things you accused me of saying to you in your post are out and out lies.

I don't for the life of me understand why you would do that.

Guest 04-16-2010 04:27 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 259930)
waynet, let's get one thing straight. I NEVER said anything about you.

I asked cologal to explain a post she made and you volunteered an answer. That is fine. In your answer you represented that I had done something personally to punish you.

The only thing I have said to you was to ask how I was punishing you and how I was contributing to you being brought down by the government (which you never answered).

I deliberately go out of my way to be polite with everyone on this forum whether I agree with them or not. The things you accused me of saying to you in your post are out and out lies.

I don't for the life of me understand why you would do that.

Ah, don't let him get to you. Instead of talking in generalities, liberals like to address someone personally. They love to attack the messenger instead of the message.

Guest 04-16-2010 07:07 PM

BK,I took the lines directly from your post word for word. I am a member of the middle class and you seem to not like the middle class for some reason.

Guest 04-16-2010 07:13 PM

Hey Donna and your conservatives really like to face the issues? That's a joke. You haven't solved a problem in 8 years. I have not seen one post of yours where a solution was offered just constant personal critism and whining. As I said earlier your hatred for Obama does not allow you to make any rational decisions you just constantlt parrot Fox News.

Guest 04-16-2010 07:28 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 259960)
Hey Donna and your conservatives really like to face the issues? That's a joke. You haven't solved a problem in 8 years. I have not seen one post of yours where a solution was offered just constant personal critism and whining. As I said earlier your hatred for Obama does not allow you to make any rational decisions you just constantlt parrot Fox News.

Do you get emails each and every day from MOVEON ?

Guest 04-16-2010 07:31 PM

You say you quoted me "word for word" calling you those names and saying those things about you? You really are confused waynet.

The only thing I have said to you was to ask how I was punishing you and how I was contributing to you being brought down by the government (which you STILL never answered).

Show me where, even when I was quoting from the original linked op/ed piece, that I used the words you say I used. Why would you deliberately tell lies about me waynet?

Guest 04-16-2010 08:27 PM

Bk please reread posts 34 and 61. That is where I got the words ,your words from. Your attacks on the middle class are an attack on me because I am part of the middle class.

Guest 04-16-2010 08:41 PM

waynet, I have never made any attacks on the middle class or against you.

Once again pure vicious lies.

If you really believe what you are saying about me is true; you will never understand anything I post.

Guest 04-16-2010 08:43 PM

The point of this thread, is that 47% of Americans are not paying income taxes. When the top money earners get hit with more taxes, what will be the incentive for them to earn more money? When they earn more money, they pay more taxes. Liberals love to beat up the rich, but they are biting the hand that feeds us. The rich do the investing and the hiring. What don't you liberal class envy baiters not understand?

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The top 1% pay over a third, 34.27% of all income taxes. (Up from 2003: 33.71%) The top 5% pay 54.36% of all income taxes (Up from 2002: 53.80%). The top 10% pay 65.84% (Up from 2002: 65.73%). The top 25% pay 83.88% (Down from 2002: 83.90%). The top 50% pay 96.54% (Up from 2002: 96.50%). The bottom 50%? They pay a paltry 3.46% of all income taxes (Down from 2002: 3.50%). The top 1% is paying nearly ten times the federal income taxes than the bottom 50%! And who earns what? The top 1% earns 16.77% of all income (2002: 16.12%). The top 5% earns 31.18% of all the income (2002: 30.55%). The top 10% earns 42.36% of all the income (2002: 41.77%); the top 25% earns 64.86% of all the income (2002: 64.37%) , and the top 50% earns 86.01% (2002: 85.77%) of all the income.

Guest 04-16-2010 09:03 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 259497)
I can't believe what I am reading.....the middle class is the engine of the economy.

BK... I went back to read the original post and here is what I reacted to:

New tax credits like the child tax credit, Making Work Pay credit, and the First Time Home buyer Credit allow middle-class families from paying any income tax. Obama's policies including health care and taxes are increasing the number of moochers and reducing the number of givers.

With this quote sending me completely over the edge:

According to information from your linked story: "How much of that 47% who don’t pay income taxes are living in desperate poverty? The truth is that middle-class entitlements are the unsustainable tumor which fills the beds of Hospice America."

Now all of a sudden the working poor and middle class are being targeted. Why? Its OK bail out the banks but not the homeowners, it ok to pay big bonuses to Wall Street because it was a contractual agreement but the Auto Workers had to re-negotiate their contracts and accept lower wages.

What about corporate entitlements, tax breaks and special tax code?

The goods for sale will only sell if someone can afford to buy them.....

Guest 04-16-2010 09:25 PM

Poor liberals. They make a living and get elected by constantly beating up the rich and now they are crying because they get a little hit. Class envy has always been the socialist's weapon of choice. If you can dish it out then you should also take it.


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