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Guest 09-10-2011 10:01 PM

proud dem
 
So is anyone that disagrees with the tea party defined as a "liberal"? Just askin...

Guest 09-10-2011 10:10 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 392905)
So is anyone that disagrees with the tea party defined as a "liberal"? Just askin...

I don't think, judging by your previous quotes on TOTV that you have any inkling what the Tea Party stands for. So there's no way to answer that question, for you.

Guest 09-10-2011 10:52 PM

proud dem
 
I've heard from many of your tea party locals,some are my friends that I play golf with regularly..I feel I have a firm grasp of the tea party mantra. In theory it is excellent, unfortunately the party has morphed into what it is today and yes I've been to tea party meetings with the candidate for governor of Pa and a congressional candidate from Va so I know what it started out as..My question is related to the fact, that as I read these many posts from you and your cronies, I never see any description of any person from other party affiliations referred to other than "liberal"..A good friend of mine(republican) has the mistaken impression that all democrats are liberal, and that just isn't true..

Anyone that has studied what has taken place in dc in the last year,especially in the last three months,should be very angry..the road ahead is not going to be easy and it is time for clear thinking, not idealism at any cost.

Guest 09-11-2011 03:53 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 392929)
I've heard from many of your tea party locals,some are my friends that I play golf with regularly..I feel I have a firm grasp of the tea party mantra. In theory it is excellent, unfortunately the party has morphed into what it is today and yes I've been to tea party meetings with the candidate for governor of Pa and a congressional candidate from Va so I know what it started out as..My question is related to the fact, that as I read these many posts from you and your cronies, I never see any description of any person from other party affiliations referred to other than "liberal"..A good friend of mine(republican) has the mistaken impression that all democrats are liberal, and that just isn't true..

Anyone that has studied what has taken place in dc in the last year,especially in the last three months,should be very angry..the road ahead is not going to be easy and it is time for clear thinking, not idealism at any cost.

Y'all know this to be a fact.

Guest 09-11-2011 06:51 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 392950)
Y'all know this to be a fact.

bait...bait....bait

Guest 09-11-2011 07:55 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 392929)
..the road ahead is not going to be easy and it is time for clear thinking, not idealism at any cost.

TOTALLY AGREE!...Someone needs let all the progressives who are running our country into the ground know this!

Guest 09-11-2011 08:00 AM

Someone needs to remind the Teaparty of the same thing. Their rhetoric is turning voters off. Just the same blah, blah, blah.

Guest 09-11-2011 08:55 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 393000)
Someone needs to remind the Teaparty of the same thing. Their rhetoric is turning voters off. Just the same blah, blah, blah.

AMEN brother.

Guest 09-11-2011 09:03 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 393000)
Someone needs to remind the Teaparty of the same thing. Their rhetoric is turning voters off. Just the same blah, blah, blah.

Like I said, we'll see. Wishing and hoping don't make it true.

Guest 09-11-2011 09:04 AM

Don't ya think what is being said about the Tea Party can be said about any other political group(s)? It all depends on which quorum where what gets said doesn't quite fit and then, depending on which group/target it is, the media will put a 100 power magnifying glass and a 1000 watt amplifier on the issue.

It all depends who said or did what and where and who was listening and which axes they selectively choose to sharpen.

All groups should be so pure as to honor their intents and purposes 100% of the time...let alone satisfy the selective knit pickers.

btk

Guest 09-11-2011 09:32 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 393000)
Someone needs to remind the Teaparty of the same thing. Their rhetoric is turning voters off. Just the same blah, blah, blah.

It didn't turn the voters off in 2010 and it will not in 2012. Obama gives us ammo every day he is in the White House.

Guest 09-11-2011 10:22 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 393036)
It didn't turn the voters off in 2010 and it will not in 2012. Obama gives us ammo every day he is in the White House.

The Democrats strategy is to convince the people that they desperately need bigger and bigger government in their lives to protect them from the evils of an unchecked "world economy".

Guest 09-11-2011 10:38 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 393036)
It didn't turn the voters off in 2010 and it will not in 2012. Obama gives us ammo every day he is in the White House.

Tea Party was a novelty. People are now seeing them for what they are. Adios.
:cus:

Guest 09-11-2011 10:40 AM

I watched the debate from my hospital bed thank God. Otherwise I would have lost it. Truthfully I did not believe any of the Repiblican did well. I do extend congrats to Newt because he was right that Williams was trying to divide and conquer. And it was tacky that the station sent in a hidden Hispanic questioner to ask an Hispanic related question.....Really?

Huntsman is a RINO He is more Democratic in his appraoch and as time passes he will show through. Its why the liberal media shows him well

I just can't get on board with Rommney because I just feel he is telling Republicans what they want to hear and I see him much more liberal then headmit.

Perry needs to pull back on his rhetoric. hell and brimstone don't set well in
Vermont

Newt is the smartest guy there

Bachmann will never get a break

Guest 09-11-2011 10:45 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 393081)
Tea Party was a novelty. People are now seeing them for what they are. Adios.
:cus:

Was that what you dreamed last night?:laugh:

Guest 09-11-2011 01:12 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 393081)
Tea Party was a novelty. People are now seeing them for what they are. Adios.
:cus:

They said that after the real Tea Party and they went out and kicked some British butt. That's how we got our own country. And now we have to do the same thing at the voting both and take America back again.:spoken:

Guest 09-11-2011 01:43 PM

...and more blah, blah, blah.

Guest 09-11-2011 02:06 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 393142)
...and more blah, blah, blah.

When found in an unbeatable position in debate, liberals tend to spout sentences upon sentence of meaningless words while saying absolutely nothing of significance for their side of the argument.
Here is a liberal who cannot structure a sentence. Pathetic? You be the judge.;)

Guest 09-11-2011 03:31 PM

proud dem
 
You fearless 6 still refuse to talk of facts...You just attack and blame the world's ills on the pesident that the MAJORITY of Americans voted in,and will again...

Guest 09-11-2011 03:40 PM

Yes he won. And yes an election outcome can be determined by as little as one vote. So please do not distort the reality of Obama's winning as representative of "the majority" elected him. He won by 2%!!!! Which is easily accounted for by the registered voters who did not vote. THEY allowed Obama a win......NOT THE majority.....48% VS 52% is not a MAJORITY of anything. It is a win and when all gets said and done it is a win. But I doubt seriously the MAJORITY, in addition to the rest of the realists who believed what he was peddaling back then will let that happen again.

btk

Guest 09-11-2011 03:49 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 393184)
You fearless 6 still refuse to talk of facts...You just attack and blame the world's ills on the pesident that the MAJORITY of Americans voted in,and will again...

As been said, 2% win. What facts do you want to talk about?

Here is one the OLM (old left media) does not show very often:

http://www.newgeography.com/content/...off-the-charts

http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball...p-he-explained

Guest 09-11-2011 05:59 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 393189)
Yes he won. And yes an election outcome can be determined by as little as one vote. So please do not distort the reality of Obama's winning as representative of "the majority" elected him. He won by 2%!!!! Which is easily accounted for by the registered voters who did not vote. THEY allowed Obama a win......NOT THE majority.....48% VS 52% is not a MAJORITY of anything. It is a win and when all gets said and done it is a win. But I doubt seriously the MAJORITY, in addition to the rest of the realists who believed what he was peddaling back then will let that happen again.

btk

Excuse me, but Bush won by 2% over Kerry and declared he had a MANDATE! and was going to use it......

Good for the goose, good for the gander.

Guest 09-11-2011 07:57 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 393131)
They said that after the real Tea Party and they went out and kicked some British butt. That's how we got our own country. And now we have to do the same thing at the voting both and take America back again.:spoken:

The original Tea Party took the British by surprise, because they did what no one thought them capable of!

Guest 09-11-2011 08:09 PM

I wasn't proposing/advocating/intimating/alluding what was right or what was wrong. Merely pointing to the fact that Obama won by ONLY 2%...and that yes that is a win as is winning by one. And that the real cause of Obama winning was the voters who stayed home and did not vote.

Merely the reality of the circumstance. Somehow there always seems to be a partisan need for a retrospective tit for tat. I am not sure what it has to do with the CURRENT dialogue.

btk

Guest 09-11-2011 08:11 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 393298)
I wasn't proposing/advocating/intimating/alluding what was right or what was wrong. Merely pointing to the fact that Obama won by ONLY 2%...and that yes that is a win as is winning by one. And that the real cause of Obama winning was the voters who stayed home and did not vote.

Merely the reality of the circumstance. Somehow there always seems to be a partisan need for a retrospective tit for tat. I am not sure what it has to do with the CURRENT dialogue.

btk

Because..................that's all they got.

Guest 09-11-2011 08:40 PM

:beer3::beer3::beer3:
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Posted by Guest (Post 393300)
Because..................that's all they got.


Guest 09-12-2011 07:27 AM

proud dem
 
Hey ritchie,
Sad to see the search party came up empty handed..

Guest 09-12-2011 08:14 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 393298)
I wasn't proposing/advocating/intimating/alluding what was right or what was wrong. Merely pointing to the fact that Obama won by ONLY 2%...and that yes that is a win as is winning by one. And that the real cause of Obama winning was the voters who stayed home and did not vote.

Merely the reality of the circumstance. Somehow there always seems to be a partisan need for a retrospective tit for tat. I am not sure what it has to do with the CURRENT dialogue.

btk

Just trying to show some balance........

Guest 09-12-2011 08:20 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 393300)
Because..................that's all they got.

It's not all we got, but we do have good memories of what Bush did. We won't forget and sometimes you all need to be reminded of what we had before.

My dislike of Bush started here: He said he was running as a Washington outsider. I almost split a gut laughing at that one. Son of a a former CIA director,vice president and president; grandson of a senator. Oh PLEASE!! Then what does he do when he is "elected" (I will not allow myself to get sucked into THAT discussion)? He appoints a bunch of daddy's old cronies and cabinet members to his cabinet. Washington outsider my *** I said it started there, so I will stick to just this one point.

Guest 09-12-2011 09:03 AM

Sounds like business as usual in Washington to most of us. It doesn't matter who the candidate or whether there is an R or a D or anything else after their name...they will and do say ANYTHING they think the party faithful want to hear. Obama just happens to be the most recent. And too many of you don't remember back beyond Bush because the 24/7, slanted media was not as prevalent then as it is now. Because if you could make a comparison back beyond Bush you would be saying, like Bush and all before him, Obama is nothing more than saying what the people want to hear, delivering on not much of what was said.

And of course there difference in addition to the 24/7 slanted media we have the ever present partisan mania that feel obligated to spend time on everything except the current issues. Partisan politicking is no more credible than political correctness...both are concepts designed to avoid the reality of the here and now and calling, doing saying what is right.

btk

Guest 09-12-2011 09:18 AM

I actually think the major television networks are the most responsible for alot of this partisan cable shows.Viewers were driven from their shows in droves because of the slant. Shows like Law and Order would throw their shots every chance they had. Years ago I would watch Johnny Carson before retiring to bed. Then Jay Leno comes out with his monologues consisting of hateful George Bush Jokes. Funny, he didn't do many Obama jokes when is got elected.
The major TV shows lost their audience and most are gone now replaced by reality shows. Good drama is hard to find on TV.
The point I'm making is that partisan cable shows filled a void created by the major networks. Heck, the few times I turn on the television is for sports or Turner Classic Movies. I confess that will will watch Bill O'Reilly once in awhile.;)

Guest 09-13-2011 12:43 AM

Villagegolfer, I use to watch all the Law and Order shows. One night I just stopped watching, right in the middle of a show. I just had enough of the Republican and Bush bashing. Haven't seen an episode since.
Johnny Carson slammed Republicans all the time. David Letterman is worse than all of them, in my opinion.

Guest 09-13-2011 06:02 AM

Hmm.. Maybe it's good that I only watch the UK version :)

Guest 09-13-2011 08:48 AM

The dems flagship network = NBC

And the poster boy and Obama promoter winner is Brian Williams!!

The networks play to the current admins positives attributes only in the same manner they played to Bush's negative attributes only. If they measured each with the same optics the commentary would be not very dissimilar!!

It is so blatant it is disgusting!!

btk


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