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Guest 12-20-2015 01:57 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1160904)
I would be very suspicious of anyone that I couldn't find something negative in their background. However, nothing in any candidate's background has been anywhere as negative or criminal as the Clintions. A vote or policy that a candidate might have flipped on, or a childhood discretion is something you expect from anyone. But, a background of total disregard for the law, honesty, morality and ethics. Some of it leading to the deaths of American citizens is unacceptable and despicable. A vote for someone like that, shows that ignorance runs rampant in our society and the liberal media perpetrates the cover up and sugar coating. It makes one wonder what their agenda might be....or is it just plain laziness by the reporting entities? A liberals really that stupid that they would sign with the devil just for the sake of a few unearned scraps from the table?

Anyone thinking of voting for the Democrats, should watch last night's Democrat debate. Compare those terrible examples of the Democrat party to even the lowest rated in the polls, GOP candidate and you will see a giant difference. Not one good idea came from the debate. Hilary told us that she would crush ISIS without using force. Does she have a Jedi mind trick going for her? Apparently she does if she can get anyone to vote for her.

There is plenty of right wing media. I am sure you are aware of it. I am voting for Hillary. I read and listen to right wing and left wing media. I also read what you and the other posters write. Very entertaining. I hope your candidate wins, otherwise 4 more years of whining about how our country is being led by crooks and idiots.

Guest 12-20-2015 03:05 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1161067)
There is plenty of right wing media. I am sure you are aware of it. I am voting for Hillary. I read and listen to right wing and left wing media. I also read what you and the other posters write. Very entertaining. I hope your candidate wins, otherwise 4 more years of whining about how our country is being led by crooks and idiots.

Here in lies the problem with people that vote for Hillary. I will concede the vast differences in the left and right's view of the political direction of our country. What cannot be conceded is the"FACT" that Hillary is not a truthful, honest, and nice person. If you do not believe that then you get what you pay for, and with Mrs. C you will pay ($$$$$) for it.

Guest 12-20-2015 03:30 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1160904)
I would be very suspicious of anyone that I couldn't find something negative in their background. However, nothing in any candidate's background has been anywhere as negative or criminal as the Clintions. A vote or policy that a candidate might have flipped on, or a childhood discretion is something you expect from anyone. But, a background of total disregard for the law, honesty, morality and ethics. Some of it leading to the deaths of American citizens is unacceptable and despicable. A vote for someone like that, shows that ignorance runs rampant in our society and the liberal media perpetrates the cover up and sugar coating. It makes one wonder what their agenda might be....or is it just plain laziness by the reporting entities? A liberals really that stupid that they would sign with the devil just for the sake of a few unearned scraps from the table?

Anyone thinking of voting for the Democrats, should watch last night's Democrat debate. Compare those terrible examples of the Democrat party to even the lowest rated in the polls, GOP candidate and you will see a giant difference. Not one good idea came from the debate. Hilary told us that she would crush ISIS without using force. Does she have a Jedi mind trick going for her? Apparently she does if she can get anyone to vote for her.

...and Trump's idea to crush ISIS is to cut off a baby's head and post the beheading on the internet.

Guest 12-20-2015 03:41 PM

Here we go again trying to choose the best from a very bad lot.

Personal Best Regards:

Guest 12-20-2015 05:59 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1161095)
...and Trump's idea to crush ISIS is to cut off a baby's head and post the beheading on the internet.

I didn't hear Trump say anything about cutting off baby heads and posting them, but if those babies and families get killed in a bombing, I figure it's better than having them bomb our kids. We killed millions of families, with kids when we carpet bombed Germany and Japan and I bet we killed a few in Japan with our atom bombs too. I know we did because I have been to Hiroshima and their museum that showed photos and evidence of the mass destruction. And think about how many lives we saved on our side by doing that, and shortening the war.

I am not pro-Trump but I figure that even as loony as he appears at times, he is so much better than the criminal running for election on the Dem side. Hilary is scum and anyone that votes for her has something deeply wrong with them. If they vote for her, then they should not ever, ever be allowed on Jury duty. If they vote for her, then they are accessories after the fact in her felonies. The Clintons are scum and should be avoided like gum on hot asphalt. Don't step on it.

Guest 12-20-2015 06:44 PM

Donald Trump is a total and complete embarassment to my party and frankly to the entire political process.

When people say he speaks for them, I find it difficult to think that there are that many hate mongering, attack dogs on the planet.

The Republican party has some great young candidates and Donald Trump has called all of them names, and never is able to actually conduct a conversation on their policies, ideas and stands on issues which is where the conversation should be directed.

I think this process has been a low point in our political process from the beginning of the country. Those who utter others names in comparing Trump, do a disservice of HUGE proportions to anyone they choose to compare him to.

Many posts on this forum are not genuine and simply a method of passing the time and releasing some agression but my statement to follow could not be more sincere.

I will tell you from the bottom of my heart that I could never vote for Hillary Clinton simply because I have read many books on her, checked and rechecked the validity of the claims and she is a liar of EPIC proportions.

If Trump is allowed by voters to gain any sort of foothold in the first few primaries, I will then be 100% disgusted with the entire Republican Party being so stupid and naive. I will change my registration to independent and will not vote. Not voting is what cost Romney the nomination, but Trump has unsettled me in such a manner that I will simply hold my nose, not vote, and watch the continued downfall of a country that i fought for and loved.

I would welcome any Trump followers to debate this man on the issues but certainly not on a board that protects silly immature people from even identifying themselves. I just suggest that your constant talking of this man as if he deserved your serious consideration is an affront and if you are unable to see what he is doing to the party and the country (in concert with the media who has proven they cover more show business than actual governing) then you probably deserve what is to come.

Ms Clinton lied, as she is prone to do, last night in her comments on Trump and the media gave her a pass and actually piled on with the same rhetoric, but the damage he is doing is not to our battle with ISIS but to a party and the country.

If Donald Trump is as he says speaking for the silent majority, then I ask that silent majority to hold him to the same standards as you would hold your trash man to. How will you do it and then think how practical it is. YOU have criticized a president and I have joined you, but I will not join in having any dealings or serious discussion about a man who is so far worse, and as I say, even serious discussion about this man is a detriment to our country.

In the late 50's, I became involved in politics. I recognize what politicians are about.....I worked with them for years.....I have no dumb illusions about them.

But in almost 60 years of being closely involved and intimately interested in the political process, I am sickened by what this man is doing. I cannot speak for his intentions, which appear to be self promotion only, but I can speak with great confidence about what he is doing to the process and my party.

He is not even a nice person, let alone someone who should get a minute of conversation. He may be a great business man, but I assure you, a statesman or leader in the public realm he is NOT

I feel better. I stopped posting on here because this board has become a potpourri of what we do not need, with little attention to anything but having childish fun with words. I am using it this evening to vent a bit.

It is a shame we cannot honestly and openly discuss events of the world online with neighbors....there are other sites, but talking with neighbors is just different. It cannot and will not be done on here and that is fine. It is obviously because the great majority do not want to have such a place.


I know I take it seriously, as has been charged, but I believe it IS serious, and as the worlds advancement give us quicker technology it is even more serious. I certainly do not want to interrupt the fun that people have on here with being serious but it is how I feel.

To those who say it is unimportant, I totally and 100% disagree. I never had visions of changing anyones mind as accused but rather of insuring folks were dealing with facts when making decisions. Decisions that I grew up believing were to be made with a serious study of.

We enjoy blaming all the politicians in Washington. WE and others like us elected those people based on all the wrong things and it just gets worse.

The Trump situation is a bad one that I just wanted to get off my chest. Those who "follow" and "cheer" him are being conned by a good salesman; one which you would come on here and complain about if he sold you something for your home.

Guest 12-20-2015 06:52 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1161157)
Donald Trump is a total and complete embarassment to my party and frankly to the entire political process.

When people say he speaks for them, I find it difficult to think that there are that many hate mongering, attack dogs on the planet.

The Republican party has some great young candidates and Donald Trump has called all of them names, and never is able to actually conduct a conversation on their policies, ideas and stands on issues which is where the conversation should be directed.

I think this process has been a low point in our political process from the beginning of the country. Those who utter others names in comparing Trump, do a disservice of HUGE proportions to anyone they choose to compare him to.

Many posts on this forum are not genuine and simply a method of passing the time and releasing some agression but my statement to follow could not be more sincere.

I will tell you from the bottom of my heart that I could never vote for Hillary Clinton simply because I have read many books on her, checked and rechecked the validity of the claims and she is a liar of EPIC proportions.

If Trump is allowed by voters to gain any sort of foothold in the first few primaries, I will then be 100% disgusted with the entire Republican Party being so stupid and naive. I will change my registration to independent and will not vote. Not voting is what cost Romney the nomination, but Trump has unsettled me in such a manner that I will simply hold my nose, not vote, and watch the continued downfall of a country that i fought for and loved.

I would welcome any Trump followers to debate this man on the issues but certainly not on a board that protects silly immature people from even identifying themselves. I just suggest that your constant talking of this man as if he deserved your serious consideration is an affront and if you are unable to see what he is doing to the party and the country (in concert with the media who has proven they cover more show business than actual governing) then you probably deserve what is to come.

Ms Clinton lied, as she is prone to do, last night in her comments on Trump and the media gave her a pass and actually piled on with the same rhetoric, but the damage he is doing is not to our battle with ISIS but to a party and the country.

If Donald Trump is as he says speaking for the silent majority, then I ask that silent majority to hold him to the same standards as you would hold your trash man to. How will you do it and then think how practical it is. YOU have criticized a president and I have joined you, but I will not join in having any dealings or serious discussion about a man who is so far worse, and as I say, even serious discussion about this man is a detriment to our country.

In the late 50's, I became involved in politics. I recognize what politicians are about.....I worked with them for years.....I have no dumb illusions about them.

But in almost 60 years of being closely involved and intimately interested in the political process, I am sickened by what this man is doing. I cannot speak for his intentions, which appear to be self promotion only, but I can speak with great confidence about what he is doing to the process and my party.

He is not even a nice person, let alone someone who should get a minute of conversation. He may be a great business man, but I assure you, a statesman or leader in the public realm he is NOT

I feel better. I stopped posting on here because this board has become a potpourri of what we do not need, with little attention to anything but having childish fun with words. I am using it this evening to vent a bit.

It is a shame we cannot honestly and openly discuss events of the world online with neighbors....there are other sites, but talking with neighbors is just different. It cannot and will not be done on here and that is fine. It is obviously because the great majority do not want to have such a place.


I know I take it seriously, as has been charged, but I believe it IS serious, and as the worlds advancement give us quicker technology it is even more serious. I certainly do not want to interrupt the fun that people have on here with being serious but it is how I feel.

To those who say it is unimportant, I totally and 100% disagree. I never had visions of changing anyones mind as accused but rather of insuring folks were dealing with facts when making decisions. Decisions that I grew up believing were to be made with a serious study of.

We enjoy blaming all the politicians in Washington. WE and others like us elected those people based on all the wrong things and it just gets worse.

The Trump situation is a bad one that I just wanted to get off my chest. Those who "follow" and "cheer" him are being conned by a good salesman; one which you would come on here and complain about if he sold you something for your home.

Don't worry, it will be Rubio that gets the nomination. Not the best choice, but better than any that the Dems have to offer.

Guest 12-20-2015 06:57 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1161160)
Don't worry, it will be Rubio that gets the nomination. Not the best choice, but better than any that the Dems have to offer.

Did not think I would get any response much less such a quick one.

I am worried however. When I hear Trump calling others names and the media covers it as a cage match game, then I know we are in trouble. Everyone should understand that each day this farce continues the situation becomes less reversable.

Rubio would be a great candidate actually. Problem is, will Trump ruin the Republican brand to an extent that it becomes hopeless and he takes his billions and goes home.

Guest 12-20-2015 07:40 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1161162)
Did not think I would get any response much less such a quick one.

I am worried however. When I hear Trump calling others names and the media covers it as a cage match game, then I know we are in trouble. Everyone should understand that each day this farce continues the situation becomes less reversable.

Rubio would be a great candidate actually. Problem is, will Trump ruin the Republican brand to an extent that it becomes hopeless and he takes his billions and goes home.

It's possible. To tell you the truth, I never took him seriously and thought that he was just taking the heat for the other candidates, and then would drop out near the primary. But, it does not seem to be so. But, I am still confident that even though the voter likes the side show, they will get serious when it comes to their vote. Anyone that has any sense at all will either vote for ANY Republican nominee or just not vote rather than vote for Hillary. I find it hard to believe that ALL Democrats are that stupid as to vote for scum like Hillary. I am disgusted with her because I know exactly how dangerous her actions were with her classified material. I wish the gov was at liberty to reveal just how dangerous it was that she did so blatantly. Most Americans do not know exactly what she did that was wrong, but those of us that have been there, know exactly how dangerous it was. If the population knew, they would probably lynch her.

Guest 12-21-2015 09:43 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1161157)
Donald Trump is a total and complete embarassment to my party and frankly to the entire political process.

When people say he speaks for them, I find it difficult to think that there are that many hate mongering, attack dogs on the planet.

The Republican party has some great young candidates and Donald Trump has called all of them names, and never is able to actually conduct a conversation on their policies, ideas and stands on issues which is where the conversation should be directed.

I think this process has been a low point in our political process from the beginning of the country. Those who utter others names in comparing Trump, do a disservice of HUGE proportions to anyone they choose to compare him to.

Many posts on this forum are not genuine and simply a method of passing the time and releasing some agression but my statement to follow could not be more sincere.

I will tell you from the bottom of my heart that I could never vote for Hillary Clinton simply because I have read many books on her, checked and rechecked the validity of the claims and she is a liar of EPIC proportions.

If Trump is allowed by voters to gain any sort of foothold in the first few primaries, I will then be 100% disgusted with the entire Republican Party being so stupid and naive. I will change my registration to independent and will not vote. Not voting is what cost Romney the nomination, but Trump has unsettled me in such a manner that I will simply hold my nose, not vote, and watch the continued downfall of a country that i fought for and loved.

I would welcome any Trump followers to debate this man on the issues but certainly not on a board that protects silly immature people from even identifying themselves. I just suggest that your constant talking of this man as if he deserved your serious consideration is an affront and if you are unable to see what he is doing to the party and the country (in concert with the media who has proven they cover more show business than actual governing) then you probably deserve what is to come.

Ms Clinton lied, as she is prone to do, last night in her comments on Trump and the media gave her a pass and actually piled on with the same rhetoric, but the damage he is doing is not to our battle with ISIS but to a party and the country.

If Donald Trump is as he says speaking for the silent majority, then I ask that silent majority to hold him to the same standards as you would hold your trash man to. How will you do it and then think how practical it is. YOU have criticized a president and I have joined you, but I will not join in having any dealings or serious discussion about a man who is so far worse, and as I say, even serious discussion about this man is a detriment to our country.

In the late 50's, I became involved in politics. I recognize what politicians are about.....I worked with them for years.....I have no dumb illusions about them.

But in almost 60 years of being closely involved and intimately interested in the political process, I am sickened by what this man is doing. I cannot speak for his intentions, which appear to be self promotion only, but I can speak with great confidence about what he is doing to the process and my party.

He is not even a nice person, let alone someone who should get a minute of conversation. He may be a great business man, but I assure you, a statesman or leader in the public realm he is NOT

I feel better. I stopped posting on here because this board has become a potpourri of what we do not need, with little attention to anything but having childish fun with words. I am using it this evening to vent a bit.

It is a shame we cannot honestly and openly discuss events of the world online with neighbors....there are other sites, but talking with neighbors is just different. It cannot and will not be done on here and that is fine. It is obviously because the great majority do not want to have such a place.


I know I take it seriously, as has been charged, but I believe it IS serious, and as the worlds advancement give us quicker technology it is even more serious. I certainly do not want to interrupt the fun that people have on here with being serious but it is how I feel.

To those who say it is unimportant, I totally and 100% disagree. I never had visions of changing anyones mind as accused but rather of insuring folks were dealing with facts when making decisions. Decisions that I grew up believing were to be made with a serious study of.

We enjoy blaming all the politicians in Washington. WE and others like us elected those people based on all the wrong things and it just gets worse.

The Trump situation is a bad one that I just wanted to get off my chest. Those who "follow" and "cheer" him are being conned by a good salesman; one which you would come on here and complain about if he sold you something for your home.

As disenchanted as one might be, he, Trump would be the better choice between him or Clinton.

And you may be suffering a little from the current way people are used to being communicated with by politicians....telling you what you want to hear....talkiking nice nice about everything.....calling a spade a heart because it sounds better....or may not offend someone......etc.

A lot of what is referred to as Trump's bluster is he says it like it is and too many do not like it that way. HOWEVER....there are many of us that subscribe to saying it like it is because it is usually the truth!!! That is the very reason Trump resonates so well with the American people......yes, including many democrats who are sick and tired of being schmoozed by the crony sleeze business as usual politicians which Obama and Clinton are the self annointed king and queen.

Guest 12-21-2015 10:37 AM

There must be a reason the democratic party elected and allows the jackass to be their mascot!!!!

And of course Trump IS the elephant in the room!!

Guest 12-21-2015 11:52 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1161371)
As disenchanted as one might be, he, Trump would be the better choice between him or Clinton.

And you may be suffering a little from the current way people are used to being communicated with by politicians....telling you what you want to hear....talkiking nice nice about everything.....calling a spade a heart because it sounds better....or may not offend someone......etc.

A lot of what is referred to as Trump's bluster is he says it like it is and too many do not like it that way. HOWEVER....there are many of us that subscribe to saying it like it is because it is usually the truth!!! That is the very reason Trump resonates so well with the American people......yes, including many democrats who are sick and tired of being schmoozed by the crony sleeze business as usual politicians which Obama and Clinton are the self annointed king and queen.

No...explain...

What does it mean when his plan for ISIS is to bomb the hell out of them ? He needs congressional approval among other thing but he never mentions that. Has he not the common sense to understand the consequences of that ?

What does it mean when he says, I will be the best trade president ever...don't worry about it ? How ?

What does it mean constantly "don't worry about it" and he offers nothing..nada.

What does it mean when he obviously had no clue what the question even meant on our nuclear reaction capabilities ? Rubio saved his bacon on that, and I challenge you to tell me one canidate for any federal office that has no clue about this.

This man is dangerous, and don't even think about blaming me for not being used to his rhetoric. It is unintelligible drivel, and he is not nor will be the king...he cannot simply ordain things.

He is slowly and surely draining the Republican Party of its viability, and if he does not do well at any time he will simply turn on the party. That is who he is and what he is. He can get away with bluster, etc in private business, but he has that darn Constitution to worry about outside business.

Your attempt to defend him by blaming intelligent citizens and voters for not understanding is simply ludicrious

Guest 12-21-2015 12:10 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1161431)
No...explain...

What does it mean when his plan for ISIS is to bomb the hell out of them ? He needs congressional approval among other thing but he never mentions that. Has he not the common sense to understand the consequences of that ?

What does it mean when he says, I will be the best trade president ever...don't worry about it ? How ?

What does it mean constantly "don't worry about it" and he offers nothing..nada.

What does it mean when he obviously had no clue what the question even meant on our nuclear reaction capabilities ? Rubio saved his bacon on that, and I challenge you to tell me one canidate for any federal office that has no clue about this.

This man is dangerous, and don't even think about blaming me for not being used to his rhetoric. It is unintelligible drivel, and he is not nor will be the king...he cannot simply ordain things.

He is slowly and surely draining the Republican Party of its viability, and if he does not do well at any time he will simply turn on the party. That is who he is and what he is. He can get away with bluster, etc in private business, but he has that darn Constitution to worry about outside business.

Your attempt to defend him by blaming intelligent citizens and voters for not understanding is simply ludicrious

Excuse me! No where in my post does it say this so you stand corrected!

If we were actually talking I would repeat what I said more slowly! However.......

His popularity is a reflection of what many voters would say and how they feel....no political correctness (lying!)......no scmoozing......no worry about hurting someone's feelings......

Said another way many of us are sick and tired of the political BS of the past 7 years!!!

Hopefully this gets you re-calibrated to what was actually said and intended.....right!

Guest 12-21-2015 12:43 PM

I am not a Trump fan, but I do see the positive in having him draw the spotlight. Trump may be boorish, but he says what a lot of America wants to hear. They want someone to acknowledge their fears and worries. Why should the liberals be the only ones that can disparage everything in America that is what makes us strong? They talk dirt about conservatives, calling us racist, sexists and bigots. In the past, Republicans have held their tongues, trying to be PC and not offend anyone. Trump doesn't worry about it. I bet he never thought he would get this far. I bet he never even seriously considered the possibility of getting the nomination. He probably didn't even want it, until he accrued such a large following. No one would even be listening to the GOP campaign if not for Trump. No one even listens to the Democrat debates or listen to them speak. Trump speaks for a lot of us. He does what the Tea Party couldn't accomplish. Now, I hope that voters will realize that he has had his place in this campaign but now it's about time to seriously consider someone to give their vote to for president. I don't believe that Trump will gt the vote. THere is a big difference between polls and votes, especially in this case. America loves or hates Trump, but they will/should take their vote seriously.

Today, there are two viable GOP candidates, Cruz and Rubio. That can change before or during the primaries. There are others that may suddenly climb once the voting starts.

At this time, if I was to cast my vote, it would be for Rubio. He has the best chance of beating Hilary in the general. There is no perfect candidate, so some are going to have to hold their noses and vote for the one that WILL beat Hillary. America can not afford another Clinton in the White House, especially a criminal like Hillary. What would parents tell their children, that it is OK to break the law because they can grow up to be president?

Remember, there was only one PERFECT man in this world, and he was murdered on the cross by non-believers. There is no perfect candidate, so don't give up just because your guy isn't in the consideration.

Guest 12-21-2015 12:50 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1161443)
Excuse me! No where in my post does it say this so you stand corrected!

If we were actually talking I would repeat what I said more slowly! However.......

His popularity is a reflection of what many voters would say and how they feel....no political correctness (lying!)......no scmoozing......no worry about hurting someone's feelings......

Said another way many of us are sick and tired of the political BS of the past 7 years!!!

Hopefully this gets you re-calibrated to what was actually said and intended.....right!

I will apologize if I offended you....

This is one of the things I was responding to...

"And you may be suffering a little from the current way people are used to being communicated with by politicians....telling you what you want to hear....talkiking nice nice about everything.....calling a spade a heart because it sounds better....or may not offend someone......etc.

A lot of what is referred to as Trump's bluster is he says it like it is and too many do not like it that way. HOWEVER....there are many of us that subscribe to saying it like it is because it is usually the truth!!! That is the very reason Trump resonates so well with the American people......yes, including many democrats who are sick and tired of being schmoozed by the crony sleeze business as usual politicians which Obama and Clinton are the self annointed king and queen."


I am "suffering" from nothing. I know how politicians communicate and I know I am very demanding of what they say and how they say it. You can listen and tell when someone is "blowing smoke" and has no grasp on the problems to be solved.

I also think Trump's bluster is just that....pure bluster. Your subscription and buying what he says as truth is your choice. I know he may capture how you and others feel, but he certainly has offered, in my opinion, nothing but "bluster" as a solution.

I am and have always been anti Obama and Clinton. I was on this political forum in 2008 speaking about Obama and the threat and it all came true, so my dialogue is NOT intended to give him a defense. Your post is more about Obama and Clinton and your dissatisfaction with them than about any solutions offered by Trump. He may talk about them as you wish to.....he may say all those things that warm the cockles of your heart, but I will tell you that he is destroying any chance of you ever being sans Clinton and the Obama influence.

He is the same as Obama, with less eloquence and you are caught up in how he voices your feelings about Obama. I have probably the same feelings, but they are issue driven, not simply bluster.

Trump offers nothing at all EXCEPT his ridiculing and most of the time he is not ridiculing the two you mention. He has said things about his opponent that, in a barroom, brings fighting. He is a bully of the largest magnitude and he is doing to you what he has done successfully in business. He is SELLING and CONNING His main product being himself and not solutions of any kind for my country. Nice to hear someone criticize Obama, but do it based on issues and not simple generalities with no solutions.

Again, sorry if I offended you, but I can only imagine how the entire Bush family must feel after listening to Trump embarrass the family in the last week or so. He did it as he always does, sans facts or knowledge, just simply and pure nastiness and bluster.

I was excited about this election cycle and the opportunities it afforded. Trump has completely destroyed them


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