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Don Baldwin 01-11-2017 09:12 AM

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Straight Talk about the N-Word | Teaching Tolerance - Diversity, Equity and Justice

Doubt if this will help at all. It is like many of my Facebook friends have suggested a complete waste of time trying to educate people who have simply decided to live with their hate and think and feel in gross over-generalizations about everything.

"In my courses, I’m more interested in raising questions than in finding answers to them. I think the questions lead to potential self-discovery. It’s not about whether or not a person uses the n-word. I try to move the class beyond easy binaries—“Well, blacks can use it, but whites can’t.” That line of thinking doesn’t take us very far at all. What we are trying to do, at least the way I have conceptualized and practiced this discovery, is so much more. The class strives to teach us all manner of ways to talk about, think about and to understand ourselves, and each other, and why and how we fit in the rest of the world."

Of course...because the solution isn't pretty...

The answer of course is...we're NOT the same. You are a different species that split off some 50,000 years ago. Over 1,500 generations living apart has made us VERY different.

Unfortunately...you DON'T fit in...ANYWHERE in the world. You're ALWAYS living below the bottom rung of the social ladder...everywhere. No matter the coutry, city, or town...blacks are at the bottom. It's genetic.

"The n-word is unique in the English language. On one hand, it is the ultimate insult- a word that has tormented generations of African Americans. Yet over time, it has become a popular term of endearment by the descendents of the very people who once had to endure it. Among many young people today—black and white—the n-word can mean friend."

Is he kidding? On crack? It's used derogatorily by blacks today just as it's always been used.

This guy is a joke.

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Let me guess Don B again. A truly ugly person.

Giving you the truth...one post at a time.

Taltarzac725 01-11-2017 09:56 AM

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"In my courses, I’m more interested in raising questions than in finding answers to them. I think the questions lead to potential self-discovery. It’s not about whether or not a person uses the n-word. I try to move the class beyond easy binaries—“Well, blacks can use it, but whites can’t.” That line of thinking doesn’t take us very far at all. What we are trying to do, at least the way I have conceptualized and practiced this discovery, is so much more. The class strives to teach us all manner of ways to talk about, think about and to understand ourselves, and each other, and why and how we fit in the rest of the world."

Of course...because the solution isn't pretty...

The answer of course is...we're NOT the same. You are a different species that split off some 50,000 years ago. Over 1,500 generations living apart has made us VERY different.

Unfortunately...you DON'T fit in...ANYWHERE in the world. You're ALWAYS living below the bottom rung of the social ladder...everywhere. No matter the coutry, city, or town...blacks are at the bottom. It's genetic.

"The n-word is unique in the English language. On one hand, it is the ultimate insult- a word that has tormented generations of African Americans. Yet over time, it has become a popular term of endearment by the descendents of the very people who once had to endure it. Among many young people today—black and white—the n-word can mean friend."

Is he kidding? On crack? It's used derogatorily by blacks today just as it's always been used.

This guy is a joke.



Giving you the truth...one post at a time.

Martin Luther King I Have a Dream Speech - American Rhetoric

How about this truth.

dirtbanker 01-11-2017 10:11 AM

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It is a sad reflection on our society when you have to offer a $100,000 reward to help catch a cop killer, female cop at that. What the hell is the matter with this state?

Only $100K?? There is a reward for $145K leading to the arrest of the killers for the slain DNC data analysis.

It surprises me that the murder of an employee (of a privately owned entity) would garner more reward than a fallen police officer.

Both are sad events...

Don Baldwin 01-11-2017 10:26 AM

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Lets look at it:

The Emancipation Proclamation did NOT free the slaves. It freed the SOUTHERN slaves of the Confederate States. There were still plenty of slaves in the north.

In 100 years, the negro COULDN'T make it. "Discrimination", segregation, is because of how they ACT. Nobody on the entire planet wants to be around them. They had 100 years to prove themselves...thay haven't. The Italians did, the Irish, the Chinese, all treated as "slaves" yet as a people rose to become productive, accepted citizens...WHY didn't the blacks? Because they are NOT capable.

"all men, yes, black men as well as white men, would be guaranteed the "unalienable Rights" of "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" Yes...we ALL have that...yet ONLY whites and Asians can seem to succeed. Why? Why do blacks (and Hispanics) always fail? I posit we're genetically too different.

"And so, we've come to cash this check, a check that will give us upon demand the riches of freedom and the security of justice" Yup...something for nothing. GIVE me! Nothing about "rise up my brothers and PROVE to them how capable we are". Why? They're NOT capable.

"And there will be neither rest nor tranquility in America until the Negro is granted his citizenship rights. The whirlwinds of revolt will continue to shake the foundations of our nation until the bright day of justice emerges" What is this a threat? They've had AMPLE opportunity to prove their worth, they fail every time. There is no justice in half your population collecting welfare.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal." Yes...human men. They're NOT us...genetically.

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. " That IS how I judge them...I'll ask again...WHAT do they do that is for the good of society in general? They're violent, needy, and stupid.

I DO judge them by their ACTIONS. It's been 60 years...and they STILL destroy everywhere they go. WHAT has diversity...bringing in blacks...made better? I ask it all the time...you never answer.

His speech was ALL pipe-dreams. If they WERE equal, fine...but EVERYTHING I see say's they're not equals.

dave harris 01-11-2017 10:45 AM

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If typing a truth that happens to have ni33er in it makes Me a racist what about all the rappers who spew it vocally??

They are racists, but because they do it, your okay with doing.

Taltarzac725 01-11-2017 10:56 AM

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They are racists, but because they do it, your okay with doing.

Some rappers may be racists, but most are not. Try using the "N" word around Villages grocery stores and see what happens. I hope they call an African-American cop to arrest you for disturbing the peace.

Don Baldwin 01-11-2017 11:09 AM

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They are racists, but because they do it, your okay with doing.

They're racist...I'm racist...so why not? They breathe and I breathe too. It's a word they use FREELY among themselves...we're supposed to EMBRACE diversity...so, I'll start joining them, diversifying the population who uses the word.

Why is diversity a one way street? They should embrace my wanting to be involved in their culture.

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Some rappers may be racists, but most are not. Try using the "N" word around Villages grocery stores and see what happens. I hope they call an African-American cop to arrest you for disturbing the peace.

Sure they are...what would give you the impression they're not? ALL blacks FREELY use the word...I will too.

If someone called someone a "cracker", do you think there would be the "disturbance" you just suggested? No, because WHITE people are CIVILIZED and black people are instinct driven animals without the self control and restraint of your dog.

That AA cop, probably got in via a quota and as such, should be grateful to me for paying his undeserved salary that a white man deserves more because he didn't need a quota and was booted because of one.

autumnspring 01-11-2017 12:52 PM

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In my personal opinion the tragic death of an Orlando cop dove tails into the kerfuffle going on between congressman over the painting in a congressional building hallway. This particular painting exhibited in a hallway on behalf of a high school student depicts a pig dressed as a cop. The picture's theme in its entirety is about police bias and killing of blacks.

Republican Congressman take the picture down and Democrat Congressman put it back up claiming "free speech" Clay (D) makes that specific claim but has in the past demanded that all things confederate be removed (statutes flags, etc) apparently he is offended by the mere mention of the Confederacy

The Civil War is part of our history. Confederate soldiers were considered America veterans and qualified for veterans benefits.

Clay's position of free speech then goes to the question of does he believe cops are really racially biased. If so then is it why he wants that painting to remain on the hallway wall?

What do you believe?

Personal Best Regards:

I am a supporter of free speech. Often, "ART?" is used as an EXCUSE to offend. If, you BELIEVE that ART should exist on public property PAID FOR WITH TAXPAYER MONEY, is there no place that you would ADMIT it has crossed a line? You suggest that some believe some cops are racially biased. Under, politically correct standards we have removed fairly common artworks showing blacks as stupid etc. FOR ME RULES OF PROPRIETY RULES OF POLITICALLY CORRECT SHOULD AND MUST APPLY TO ALL.

RE: RACIAL BIAS
I don't know your history but I've been in places such as HARLEM and the SOUTH BRONX. Call me prejudiced, call me a bigot-I TRULY DO NOT CARE. When driving in such an area I will be damn sure that I am not caught in a pack of cars. I will be the first on at the light so I can get away.

While I did not vote for Obama, as the first Black president the American people gave Obama a unique opportunity to address racial issues. Rather than to make things better, Obama CHOSE to fan embers of racism into forest fires.
Can things ever be perfect-OF COURSE NOT. If, two people come up for a job one black one white. If, the black person gets the job the white person will say affirmative action. If, the white person gets the job the black person will say racism. The real reason will never be known. Am I prejudiced? I've asked myself the same question. YOUR ANSWER, YOUR VIEW, I SIMPLY DO NOT CARE. If, any of you wants to book a walking tour of HARLEM at night, YOU ARE NOT A LIBERAL YOU ARE A DAMN FOOL.

autumnspring 01-11-2017 01:18 PM

The trouble is politically corrected history
 
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It's interesting how a racist and bigoted painting like that is considered acceptable in today's society and yet many want to change the names of schools to get rid of historic figures such as Jefferson or Washington because they may have owned a slave during a period where slavery was accepted. A good tar and feathering party for the representatives that keep putting the painting back up again after it has been removed, is probably warranted. A vindictive party might hang a Confederate Battle flag by it and see if they feel the same way afterward. I'm sure that the agitating party on the left that continues to hang the offensive painting would say that it is just artistic expression.

People VOTE and THINK what was fed to them in HISTORY CLASS was or is real. We and frankly the world accepted slavery as normal. If, you wanted to learn a trade-EDUCATION so that you could earn a living-your parents would have an agreement BASED ON HONOR, where you would be an APPRENTICE for 7 years. Essentially you were a SLAVE for 7 years. There was no mention of how many hours you would work, quality of food, where you would sleep etc. Many people came to this country as indentured servants-MANY OF THEM WERE IRISH DUE TO LACK OF FOOD IN IRELAND. You were a SLAVE for 14 years. We dare not mention it but about 10% of the slave owners were BLACK.
In the south 1/3 of the population were black slaves. We probably all have been told the Lincoln Emancipation Proclamation freed the slaves. THINK AND REALIZE-at the time Lincoln gave that speech he was not even the president of the south-JEFFERSON DAVIS was. Lincoln's goal was to start slave uprisings that the south would have needed to take troops out of combat to put down slave revolts-IT DID NOT WORK.

FREEDOM OF SPEECH-that painting should be burned not taken down and rehung. PROBLEM SOLVED.

MDLNB 01-11-2017 02:11 PM

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People VOTE and THINK what was fed to them in HISTORY CLASS was or is real. We and frankly the world accepted slavery as normal. If, you wanted to learn a trade-EDUCATION so that you could earn a living-your parents would have an agreement BASED ON HONOR, where you would be an APPRENTICE for 7 years. Essentially you were a SLAVE for 7 years. There was no mention of how many hours you would work, quality of food, where you would sleep etc. Many people came to this country as indentured servants-MANY OF THEM WERE IRISH DUE TO LACK OF FOOD IN IRELAND. You were a SLAVE for 14 years. We dare not mention it but about 10% of the slave owners were BLACK.
In the south 1/3 of the population were black slaves. We probably all have been told the Lincoln Emancipation Proclamation freed the slaves. THINK AND REALIZE-at the time Lincoln gave that speech he was not even the president of the south-JEFFERSON DAVIS was. Lincoln's goal was to start slave uprisings that the south would have needed to take troops out of combat to put down slave revolts-IT DID NOT WORK.

FREEDOM OF SPEECH-that painting should be burned not taken down and rehung. PROBLEM SOLVED.

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MDLNB 01-11-2017 02:22 PM

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Some rappers may be racists, but most are not. Try using the "N" word around Villages grocery stores and see what happens. I hope they call an African-American cop to arrest you for disturbing the peace.

So Tal, you would have your freedom of speech infringed upon because one label offends? Cowardly, isn't it?

I find it offensive to hear someone at another table in a restaurant loudly using the MxxxFxxxer term. Especially around my family. Perhaps we should have a list of offending words that can be considered arrestable offenses if used. And remember, if it is acceptable for those of color to use the "N" word, then they are giving permission for anyone to use it.

So, you want someone arrested for using a word that is not approved by you? Wow! You should have stayed in the USSR, or did you immigrate after it's fall?

Don Baldwin 01-11-2017 03:03 PM

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I am a supporter of free speech. Often, "ART?" is used as an EXCUSE to offend. If, you BELIEVE that ART should exist on public property PAID FOR WITH TAXPAYER MONEY, is there no place that you would ADMIT it has crossed a line? You suggest that some believe some cops are racially biased. Under, politically correct standards we have removed fairly common artworks showing blacks as stupid etc. FOR ME RULES OF PROPRIETY RULES OF POLITICALLY CORRECT SHOULD AND MUST APPLY TO ALL.

RE: RACIAL BIAS
I don't know your history but I've been in places such as HARLEM and the SOUTH BRONX. Call me prejudiced, call me a bigot-I TRULY DO NOT CARE. When driving in such an area I will be damn sure that I am not caught in a pack of cars. I will be the first on at the light so I can get away.

While I did not vote for Obama, as the first Black president the American people gave Obama a unique opportunity to address racial issues. Rather than to make things better, Obama CHOSE to fan embers of racism into forest fires.
Can things ever be perfect-OF COURSE NOT. If, two people come up for a job one black one white. If, the black person gets the job the white person will say affirmative action. If, the white person gets the job the black person will say racism. The real reason will never be known. Am I prejudiced? I've asked myself the same question. YOUR ANSWER, YOUR VIEW, I SIMPLY DO NOT CARE. If, any of you wants to book a walking tour of HARLEM at night, YOU ARE NOT A LIBERAL YOU ARE A DAMN FOOL.

Public money shouldn't be spent on "art". The public will support art if it's they think it's worth supporting.

It's funny how the one who support "equality" and "diversity" are living in a 99% white community. They keep refusing MY offers to go down to MLK Blvd...in ANY city...at 1am to hob nob with the locals. That's what 99% black looks like. Dangerous, violent, poor, dirty...THAT is why nobody wants them around. Anyone who KNOWS them...wants nothing to do with them...but we're "racist" to think that way...to judge them by their actions.

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So Tal, you would have your freedom of speech infringed upon because one label offends? Cowardly, isn't it?

I find it offensive to hear someone at another table in a restaurant loudly using the MxxxFxxxer term. Especially around my family. Perhaps we should have a list of offending words that can be considered arrestable offenses if used. And remember, if it is acceptable for those of color to use the "N" word, then they are giving permission for anyone to use it.

So, you want someone arrested for using a word that is not approved by you? Wow! You should have stayed in the USSR, or did you immigrate after it's fall?

Liberals/democrats are Nazi's if ever there was one. You MUST do this... You MUST think this way... You MUST say ONLY these words...

You THINK you're being "progressive"...what you're doing is being a Nazi and demanding things be done YOUR way. And you're destroying your own country/culture doing it.

BobnBev 01-12-2017 07:14 PM

Constitutional Amendment
 
I think that ANYBODY who murders a cop should be shot on sight by anybody, with NO penalty. Make it "open season". That also should cover ANYBODY who provides any kind of assistance to the murderer.

This should become a FEDERAL LAW, and have nothing to do with states rights. JMHO!:police:

Taltarzac725 01-12-2017 11:31 PM

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So Tal, you would have your freedom of speech infringed upon because one label offends? Cowardly, isn't it?

I find it offensive to hear someone at another table in a restaurant loudly using the MxxxFxxxer term. Especially around my family. Perhaps we should have a list of offending words that can be considered arrestable offenses if used. And remember, if it is acceptable for those of color to use the "N" word, then they are giving permission for anyone to use it.

So, you want someone arrested for using a word that is not approved by you? Wow! You should have stayed in the USSR, or did you immigrate after it's fall?

Putting words into my mouth. It all depends on context.

Going into a police station and yelling "Gun"!, "Shooter", "Bomb", or something like that might get you shot. "Bomb" yelled on an airplane. "80% off" at a sale on Black Friday.

African-Americans, at least some, have their own culture and socially acceptable words and actions. This is strengthened by the media through art, music, films, etc. They do use the "n" word but that is often because they understand its deep pain and suffering with how it has been used in the US. Most white really do not get this empathy. Some try though.

As far as the MF word is concerned that also depends a lot of context. I doubt if you hear that much at Bonefish Grill from people of any color, occupation, or age.

Don Baldwin 01-13-2017 05:39 AM

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Putting words into my mouth. It all depends on context.

Going into a police station and yelling "Gun"!, "Shooter", "Bomb", or something like that might get you shot. "Bomb" yelled on an airplane. "80% off" at a sale on Black Friday.

African-Americans, at least some, have their own culture and socially acceptable words and actions. This is strengthened by the media through art, music, films, etc. They do use the "n" word but that is often because they understand its deep pain and suffering with how it has been used in the US. Most white really do not get this empathy. Some try though.

As far as the MF word is concerned that also depends a lot of context. I doubt if you hear that much at Bonefish Grill from people of any color, occupation, or age.

Why the double standard? Why DO they have their "own" culture? Why do THEY get to say words FORBIDDEN to me?

WHY would ANY "rational" people use a word themselves that they find completely offensive? Would white people call themselves "Stupid f@@k"? "******* child", "White trash", "cracker", or ANY denigrating words? So WHY do they?

Blacks curse a LOT. MF and n!@@3r are two of their favorite words. If you're ever unfortunate enough to see them in the wild...listen to them talk. See how racist they are, how uneducated they are, how nasty their mouth's are. How much they're NOT like us.


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