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Guest 02-18-2016 11:22 AM

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Anti-Gay Marriage Churches Could Lose Tax-Exempt Status | The Daily Caller

Churches could lose their tax-exempt status with the IRS if they refuse to recognize the Supreme Court’s ruling Friday legalizing gay marriage in all 50 states, Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts warned in his dissenting opinion.

Nice try but when you use the Daily Caller you might want to question whether they have accurately reported what they contend. The story you link does say churches may loose their tax exempt status but they lied about what Roberts wrote. If you care you can read his dissent here:
http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions...4-556_3204.pdf see page 28 of his writing
He said very clearly that non churches which are tax sheltered by being associated with a religion might be at risk. That means things like a college associated with a church which refuses marital housing to a legally married gay couple might place their institution at risk, a college which will not add a gay partner to its health insurance which is provides for straight couples might be at risk. But this absolutely does not apply to an actual church and Roberts makes that very very clear in his writing. The Daily Caller has mislead you. This exact situation happened to Bob Jones University when it had its tax exempt status threatened because it refused to accept dating or marriage of a white person to a non-white person.
If you really care you can read a summary of the SCOTUS decision in revoking Jones's tax exemption here on Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Jo..._United_States
or just read this very clear part proving my point that a university being at risk is not the same as a church

The Court applied a strict scrutiny analysis and found that the "Government has a fundamental, overriding interest in eradicating racial discrimination in education . . . which substantially outweighs whatever burden denial of tax benefits places on [the University's] exercise of their religious beliefs." The Court made clear, however, that its holding dealt "only with religious schools—not with churches or other purely religious institutions."[2]

See how you were mislead? By the way, Bob Jones University did not lift its ban on interracial dating until 2000 after GW Bush made a speech there and their policy became more widely known. No GOP Presidential candidate has blessed BJU with a visit until this year when both Cruz and Carson have made official visits, certainly within their right to go after that kind of Evangelical voter.

Guest 02-18-2016 01:11 PM

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And your risible assertion that "science" condemns homosexuality... You know nothing about science as science absolutely shows that homosexuality is a normal part of most mammalian species,

Please cite references to that statement. That would be citations from National Geographic or Nature or the like, NOT GQ magazine.

Guest 02-18-2016 02:10 PM

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Please cite references to that statement. That would be citations from National Geographic or Nature or the like, NOT GQ magazine.

:thumbup:

Guest 02-18-2016 02:35 PM

The Washington Post:

In his dissent, Chief Justice John Roberts Jr. discussed religious liberty concerns. “Today’s decision, for example, creates serious questions about religious liberty,” Roberts wrote. “Many good and decent people oppose same-sex marriage as a tenet of faith, and their freedom to exercise religion is—unlike the right imagined by the majority— actually spelled out in the Constitution.

“Hard questions arise when people of faith exercise religion in ways that may be seen to conflict with the new right to same-sex marriage—when, for example, a religious college provides married student housing only to opposite-sex married couples, or a religious adoption agency declines to place children with same-sex married couples. Indeed, the Solicitor General candidly acknowledged that the tax exemptions of some religious institutions would be in question if they opposed same-sex marriage. See Tr. of Oral Arg. on Question 1, at 36–38. There is little doubt that these and similar questions will soon be before this Court. Unfortunately, people of faith can take no comfort in the treatment they receive from the majority today.”
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Alito wrote in his dissenting opinion: "The majority attempts, toward the end of its opinion, to reassure those who oppose same-sex marriage that their rights of conscience will be protected. We will soon see whether this proves to be true. I assume that those who cling to old beliefs will be able to whisper their thoughts in the recesses of their homes, but if they repeat those views in public, they will risk being labeled as bigots and treated as such by governments, employers, and schools."

Guest 02-18-2016 02:50 PM

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There is no federal law on marriage, perhaps true, but there is a Federal Constitution. And that document is controlling authority for the entire country as interpreted by the Supreme Court. Marriage is a legal merger of individuals into a state recognized by the government and given special consideration. It has nothing to do with religion unless the parties choose to have a religious element to the contract. While some may choose to have the contract witnessed in a religious environment, other choose to have a completely non-religious event for example being married by a judge or other civil authority. What the US Supreme Court said, very clearly, is that any two adults can enter into this contract without needing to be one female and one male. Equal protection requires it under the Constitution no matter what the majority of citizens want. This has been the role of the court and frankly the Constitution to protect the minority against the tyranny of the majority. The majority did not want to have integration in the South, or in the north likely. The majority may well believe cops should be able to stop anyone and search anyone, because if you are not guilty you have nothing to hide. The Constitution says otherwise and the court's job is protect those rights guaranteed whether you or I agree.
No one can tell any religion that it needs to have anything to do with gay marriage. No priest or shaman or preacher can be forced to officiate over a gay marriage. But the law now is that the state may not prohibit gay persons from marriage. You see there is no such thing as "religious" marriage according to civil law. There is only marriage. If the Catholic church decides it will not call a straight couple "married" if the ceremony was done in a courthouse not by a cleric, that is fine with me. It was a marriage without the blessing of a priest. If the Catholic church does not want to call me married to my partner, that is fine with me. I don't need the approval of the Catholic church, or you, on my orientation or my marriage for it to be completely 100% legal in every state of the good old USA

Deviant? My behavior is not deviant. The Church of course defines deviant in lots of ways depending on your particular flavor of God. Oral Sex, deviant. Masturbation super deviant. Anything but Missionary position DEVIANT, as the lovely missionaries of the Christian faith told those sexed up natives to stop having it any other way or go to Hades. So are you deviant too?

There's this old joke of an Italian male and a Greek male arguing about whose country had made the greatest contributions to the known world in literature, architecture, etc when the Greek said well we invented sex and the Italian replied yes but we invented it with women.

You misspeak when you define same sex sex as not being deviant.
But that's not my objection. My objection is that militant homosexuals demanded the redefinition of marriage not for any civil right because their civil rights were never violated but rather to attempt to normalize a deviant act. and one way you normalize it is to remove gender and one way to legalize it was to redefine the definition of marriage But you can't fool mother nature

Another way to normalize it comes from Hollywood because if you display it enough you socialize it and once you socialize it you normalize it. Its like tell a lie long enough makes it the truth.

This same sex controversy has opened up a pandora's box where just about every deviant form of sexual activity will become an obsession with movie makers because they will do anything for a buck

Let me be clear I am no more pleased with Hollywood's overuse of gratuitous heterosexual sex. And further I do view the performance of oral sex as both deviant behavior as well as a real health hazards for participants

Our societies obsession with sex was bad enough but now the push by militant homosexuals agenda is destroying mind and soul especially for young people. Hedonism will continue to grow as we continue our slide toward total secularism. Welcome to the Rise And Fall Of The Great American Empire

I am sorry but America is getting uglier by the day

Guest 02-18-2016 03:02 PM

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There's this old joke of an Italian male and a Greek male arguing about whose country had made the greatest contributions to the known world in literature, architecture, etc when the Greek said well we invented sex and the Italian replied yes but we invented it with women.

You misspeak when you define same sex sex as not being deviant.
But that's not my objection. My objection is that militant homosexuals demanded the redefinition of marriage not for any civil right because their civil rights were never violated but rather to attempt to normalize a deviant act. and one way you normalize it is to remove gender and one way to legalize it was to redefine the definition of marriage But you can't fool mother nature

Another way to normalize it comes from Hollywood because if you display it enough you socialize it and once you socialize it you normalize it. Its like tell a lie long enough makes it the truth.

This same sex controversy has opened up a pandora's box where just about every deviant form of sexual activity will become an obsession with movie makers because they will do anything for a buck

Let me be clear I am no more pleased with Hollywood's overuse of gratuitous heterosexual sex. And further I do view the performance of oral sex as both deviant behavior as well as a real health hazards for participants

Our societies obsession with sex was bad enough but now the push by militant homosexuals agenda is destroying mind and soul especially for young people. Hedonism will continue to grow as we continue our slide toward total secularism. Welcome to the Rise And Fall Of The Great American Empire

I am sorry but America is getting uglier by the day

:agree:

Guest 02-18-2016 03:32 PM

Since liberals now embrace socialism and communism, maybe conservatives should accept their inaccurate slurs of "bigot" thrown at us. Of course bigot denotes intolerance, and we do tolerate. We just don't condone. Condone means: to disregard or overlook, something illegal, and or objectionable.

I have heard several times on here and by liberal pundits that we should make America more like Denmark and the Danes. After a bit of research, I now know why liberals wish to be like the Danes. It seems that something like one out of five males have had sex with an animal. I wonder if the liberal Supreme Court would find it perfectly OK for that practice.

Denmark'''s Bestiality Problem: It'''s Legal - The Daily Beast

Animal brothels legal in Denmark | IceNews - Daily News

Denmark moves to ban bestiality: Controversial right to have sex with animals will be outlawed | Weird News | News | The Independent

Guest 02-18-2016 04:02 PM

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I have heard several times on here and by liberal pundits that we should make America more like Denmark and the Danes. After a bit of research, I now know why liberals wish to be like the Danes. It seems that something like one out of five males have had sex with an animal. I wonder if the liberal Supreme Court would find it perfectly OK for that practice.
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Sounds like West Virginia, doesn't it? I doubt if many of the hillbilly guys who like their sheep are Democrats. How about Ned Beatty's "pals" from "Deliverance"? Do you suppose they were Democrats? Looked liked they would be for Cruz!

Guest 02-18-2016 04:05 PM

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Sounds like West Virginia, doesn't it? I doubt if many of the hillbilly guys who like their sheep are Democrats. How about Ned Beatty's "pals" from "Deliverance"? Do you suppose they were Democrats? Looked liked they would be for Cruz!

Yep, they were definitely Democrats. Almost all of Hollywood are liberals.

Guest 02-18-2016 04:30 PM

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Please cite references to that statement. That would be citations from National Geographic or Nature or the like, NOT GQ magazine.

Really? You are unaware of any of the findings? You want National Geographic and accept it as definitive?

Homosexual Activity Among Animals Stirs Debate
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The fact that homosexuality does, after all, exist in the natural world is bound to be used against people who insist such behavior is unnatural.
There you go.
and the BBC
BBC - Earth - Are there any homosexual animals?
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That many humans are homosexual is well known but we also know the behaviour is extremely common across the animal kingdom, from insects to mammals
And medical news
1,500 animal species practice homosexuality
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One example of overlooking behaviour noted by Petter Bockman is a description of mating among giraffes, when nine out of ten pairings occur between males.

"Every male that sniffed a female was reported as sex, while anal intercourse with orgasm between males was only "revolving around" dominance, competition or greetings
.

And Yale University
Do Animals Exhibit Homosexuality? | Yale Scientific Magazine
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Currently, homosexual behavior has been documented in over 450 different animal species worldwide
and praise the gay lord even Fox News has the information
Homosexuality Common in the Wild, Scientists Say | Fox News
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On this issue, Nature has spoken: Same-sex lovin' is common in hundreds of species
Consider yourself informed, you may pass on this information to all your friends.

Guest 02-18-2016 05:16 PM

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Yep, they were definitely Democrats. Almost all of Hollywood are liberals.

You obviously never saw Deliverance.

Guest 02-18-2016 05:17 PM

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Really? You are unaware of any of the findings? You want National Geographic and accept it as definitive?

Homosexual Activity Among Animals Stirs Debate
There you go.
and the BBC
BBC - Earth - Are there any homosexual animals?
And medical news
1,500 animal species practice homosexuality
.

And Yale University
Do Animals Exhibit Homosexuality? | Yale Scientific Magazine


and praise the gay lord even Fox News has the information
Homosexuality Common in the Wild, Scientists Say | Fox News


Consider yourself informed, you may pass on this information to all your friends.

Thank you, obviously I have some research to do. Of course, if all these "scientists" turn out to be gay.........

Guest 02-18-2016 08:13 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1187507)
Really? You are unaware of any of the findings? You want National Geographic and accept it as definitive?

Homosexual Activity Among Animals Stirs Debate
There you go.
and the BBC
BBC - Earth - Are there any homosexual animals?
And medical news
1,500 animal species practice homosexuality
.

And Yale University
Do Animals Exhibit Homosexuality? | Yale Scientific Magazine


and praise the gay lord even Fox News has the information
Homosexuality Common in the Wild, Scientists Say | Fox News


Consider yourself informed, you may pass on this information to all your friends.


IMO I don't consider humans to be animals. We have more brains and should know better. Just cause the dumb animals do it don't make make it natural in our blood line. We split from the animals long ago. IMO most homosexual intention was behavioral problems early in childhood life or lack of affection by the other gender I assuming small percentage hormones got screwed up in the womb, which could explain the homosexual animals. I take it they didn't find out WHY animal specie went homosexual? Another thing just cause somebody studies and writes they're opinion on subject don't make it the absolute truth.

Guest 02-18-2016 08:39 PM

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IMO I don't consider humans to be animals. We have more brains and should know better. Just cause the dumb animals do it don't make make it natural in our blood line. We split from the animals long ago. IMO most homosexual intention was behavioral problems early in childhood life or lack of affection by the other gender I assuming small percentage hormones got screwed up in the womb, which could explain the homosexual animals. I take it they didn't find out WHY animal specie went homosexual? Another thing just cause somebody studies and writes they're (their) opinion on subject don't (doesn't) make it the absolute truth.

I give up. I state that homosexual activity is common in mammals

as science absolutely shows that homosexuality is a normal part of most mammalian species,

and get challenged to produce evidence of that, because some of you don't know how to use google..

Please cite references to that statement. That would be citations from National Geographic or Nature or the like, NOT GQ magazine


So I produce a list of several citations including National Geographic clearly supporting, not just supporting my statement but if you bother to read the links, proving my statement with well documented observations, factual observations of animal behavior in hundreds of species and you, the perhaps same person who can't use google now shows you don't understand how to read a report in a journal. Observations of animal behavior are not opinions. It is not an opinion that a panda eats bamboo or that a sandhill has a mating dance. It happens. These animals don't go homosexual, they have same sex coital behaviors.
At least from your phrase that we split from the animals a long time ago I can take comfort that you reject the know nothing young earth Christians who actually claim to believe the Genesis story and deny evolution. Perhaps there is hope you can learn about the present evidence why some of us more evolved hominids are innately straight, and others innately gay. Not my job, try Google

Guest 02-18-2016 10:33 PM

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IMO I don't consider humans to be animals. We have more brains and should know better. Just cause the dumb animals do it don't make make it natural in our blood line. We split from the animals long ago. IMO most homosexual intention was behavioral problems early in childhood life or lack of affection by the other gender I assuming small percentage hormones got screwed up in the womb, which could explain the homosexual animals. I take it they didn't find out WHY animal specie went homosexual? Another thing just cause somebody studies and writes they're opinion on subject don't make it the absolute truth.

So you are a choicer....If humans have brains then we "should" be able to make a choice. Obviously you are NOT gay so at what age did you CHOOSE to be attracted to women, if you are a male. Did you ever feel those same feeling for a man? If you answered YES and then NO you didn't actually make a choice. Its the same for homosexual's they don't make a choice on who they are attracted to the only choice for them is to have a life or not.

As for this BS

IMO most homosexual intention was behavioral problems early in childhood life or lack of affection by the other gender I assuming small percentage hormones got screwed up in the womb, which could explain the homosexual animals. This might have been the thought years ago but not for quite some time. Homosexually was removed from the DSM in 1973.

Guest 02-19-2016 06:38 AM

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IMO I don't consider humans to be animals. We have more brains and should know better. Just cause the dumb animals do it don't make make it natural in our blood line. We split from the animals long ago. IMO most homosexual intention was behavioral problems early in childhood life or lack of affection by the other gender I assuming small percentage hormones got screwed up in the womb, which could explain the homosexual animals. I take it they didn't find out WHY animal specie went homosexual? Another thing just cause somebody studies and writes they're opinion on subject don't make it the absolute truth.

NO, you didn't understand what they were getting at. They want us to compare them with animals. Their intent is to learn from the monkeys they believe they came from. Didn't you know, they believe that two men can procreate. It's science and they are sticking by it. :MOJE_whot:..:MOJE_whot:

Guest 02-19-2016 06:46 AM

This whole thread is moot. Who knows if Rubio will even get the Republican nomination? If so, it is unlikely he will win the presidential contest. The Supreme court ruled that gay marriage is a constitutional right. End of story.

Guest 02-19-2016 06:52 AM

No matter what reference you wish to bring up, the fact remains that Homosexuality is abnormal behavior. Therefore, it fits the definition of deviant behavior. Just accept it. Even though some people tolerate, they still don't condone such behavior and avoid it as much as possible. No matter how much Follywood wishes to exploit it for monetary gain, it's still deviant, abnormal behavior. It's not just Christian, Bible thumpers that believe that. Everyone around you believes that. IF you paid attention, you would see that those around you are looking at you with pity and sympathy. That is because they are good, caring people that find what you do to be abnormal and deviant. It is mental illness, and all those that sympathize or pity are unintentionally fueling the mental illness, not helping in the cure. I am also guilty of that, in that I know gay folks and give them kindness and support. They believe it is because I support their lifestyle, when the reality is that I pity their mental illness. Basically, we are just humoring them when they should be corrected.

But, at least we now know why liberals are so hopped up on copying the Danes. I imagine that will be next in America, bestiality. It's common in Denmark. After all, if gays are using animals as examples of homosexuality, then I presume they feel that mating with them is also acceptable. According to the Supreme Court decision, that would also be acceptable.

Guest 02-19-2016 06:54 AM

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This whole thread is moot. Who knows if Rubio will even get the Republican nomination? If so, it is unlikely he will win the presidential contest. The Supreme court ruled that gay marriage is a constitutional right. End of story.

Rubio has the best chance of winning the general election than any of the other GOP candidates. Expand your knowledge and read a little bit of current news.
IMO, once the two top contenders get finished ripping themselves apart as well as their campaign, Rubio stands a chance to waltz in there and take the prize.

Guest 02-19-2016 06:58 AM

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You obviously never saw Deliverance.

You obviously have no reading comprehension. Go back and read the reply again and see if you get it. I didn't type that fast, so you should be able to get it if you read it a couple of times.

Guest 02-19-2016 07:05 AM

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So you are a choicer....If humans have brains then we "should" be able to make a choice. Obviously you are NOT gay so at what age did you CHOOSE to be attracted to women, if you are a male. Did you ever feel those same feeling for a man? If you answered YES and then NO you didn't actually make a choice. Its the same for homosexual's they don't make a choice on who they are attracted to the only choice for them is to have a life or not.

As for this BS

IMO most homosexual intention was behavioral problems early in childhood life or lack of affection by the other gender I assuming small percentage hormones got screwed up in the womb, which could explain the homosexual animals. This might have been the thought years ago but not for quite some time. Homosexually was removed from the DSM in 1973.

Homosexuality was stricken from the DSM as a political move only.

If one reads what is included as a disorder and compares any one of them with homosexuality it would give one pause to wonder why homosexuality was removed. For instance a foot fetish is consider a disorder. So if a man is attracted to a woman's foot (ankle included more likely) he has a disorder. But a guy attracted to another guy' ***** does not. Hmmmmmmm

And as to the argument that animals do it is not a validation for normalcy. Obvious animals are capable of deviant acts also.

I do not want to hurt anyone's feeling because I am not addressing the person but the act. My focus is not on what religion says but what biology tells us. Strictly speaking nature devised sex for procreation. Through natural procreation came natural selection.

Men/women alter the intent of nature through attitudes and science.
Do you suppose nature intended sex to be a SM exercise?

Many psychiatrist are concerned about what is happening in the transgender controversy. Parents are over reacting to this issue. There have always been tomboys but they grow up to be normal healthy woman. and some boys prefer to play with dolls but they too adjust. Psychiatrist have said that people who have transgendered live to regret it. they are confused.

I support and defend gay people's right to life liberty and the pursuit to happiness but I reject their desire to rewrite the laws of nature and attempt to turn this nation upside down Bill Clinton's don't ask, don't tell policy should apply nationally . Now let me hope that the mistake the oligarchy called the Supreme court decision in Oberfefell can be repealed

Guest 02-19-2016 09:44 AM

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Homosexuality was stricken from the DSM as a political move only.

If one reads what is included as a disorder and compares any one of them with homosexuality it would give one pause to wonder why homosexuality was removed. For instance a foot fetish is consider a disorder. So if a man is attracted to a woman's foot (ankle included more likely) he has a disorder. But a guy attracted to another guy' ***** does not. Hmmmmmmm

And as to the argument that animals do it is not a validation for normalcy. Obvious animals are capable of deviant acts also.

I do not want to hurt anyone's feeling because I am not addressing the person but the act. My focus is not on what religion says but what biology tells us. Strictly speaking nature devised sex for procreation. Through natural procreation came natural selection.

Men/women alter the intent of nature through attitudes and science.
Do you suppose nature intended sex to be a SM exercise?

Many psychiatrist are concerned about what is happening in the transgender controversy. Parents are over reacting to this issue. There have always been tomboys but they grow up to be normal healthy woman. and some boys prefer to play with dolls but they too adjust. Psychiatrist have said that people who have transgendered live to regret it. they are confused.

I support and defend gay people's right to life liberty and the pursuit to happiness but I reject their desire to rewrite the laws of nature and attempt to turn this nation upside down Bill Clinton's don't ask, don't tell policy should apply nationally . Now let me hope that the mistake the oligarchy called the Supreme court decision in Oberfefell can be repealed

The ONLY reason this subject is even on any political agenda is to secure a voting bolck. NOTHING MORE.

There is nothing right about it at all. Someones choice? Fine. That is their business. They are a minority group that wants, with political and media support, to make it look and sound as if their presence is the norm....WHEN IT CLEARLY IS NOT...
I am sick and tired of hearing about it. I am more sick and tired of seeing it on every :censored: television and movie where they think they have to show two guys or gals kissing and groping.

They can do whatever they want just like they used to do. But stop the BS of making it be up front in every body's face day in and day out.

Guest 02-19-2016 10:01 AM

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The ONLY reason this subject is even on any political agenda is to secure a voting bolck. NOTHING MORE.

There is nothing right about it at all. Someones choice? Fine. That is their business. They are a minority group that wants, with political and media support, to make it look and sound as if their presence is the norm....WHEN IT CLEARLY IS NOT...
I am sick and tired of hearing about it. I am more sick and tired of seeing it on every :censored: television and movie where they think they have to show two guys or gals kissing and groping.

They can do whatever they want just like they used to do. But stop the BS of making it be up front in every body's face day in and day out.

Totally agree.....:thumbup:

Guest 02-19-2016 03:50 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1187676)
Homosexuality was stricken from the DSM as a political move only.

If one reads what is included as a disorder and compares any one of them with homosexuality it would give one pause to wonder why homosexuality was removed. For instance a foot fetish is consider a disorder. So if a man is attracted to a woman's foot (ankle included more likely) he has a disorder. But a guy attracted to another guy' ***** does not. Hmmmmmmm

And as to the argument that animals do it is not a validation for normalcy. Obvious animals are capable of deviant acts also.

I do not want to hurt anyone's feeling because I am not addressing the person but the act. My focus is not on what religion says but what biology tells us. Strictly speaking nature devised sex for procreation. Through natural procreation came natural selection.

Men/women alter the intent of nature through attitudes and science.
Do you suppose nature intended sex to be a SM exercise?

Many psychiatrist are concerned about what is happening in the transgender controversy. Parents are over reacting to this issue. There have always been tomboys but they grow up to be normal healthy woman. and some boys prefer to play with dolls but they too adjust. Psychiatrist have said that people who have transgendered live to regret it. they are confused.

I support and defend gay people's right to life liberty and the pursuit to happiness but I reject their desire to rewrite the laws of nature and attempt to turn this nation upside down Bill Clinton's don't ask, don't tell policy should apply nationally . Now let me hope that the mistake the oligarchy called the Supreme court decision in Oberfefell can be repealed

It was removed..... But if it is true that as you say "Strictly speaking nature devised sex for procreation. " Then why are so many men in this community using Viagra to have sex? Seriously they are NOT having sex for procreation now are they.

Guest 02-19-2016 03:56 PM

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It was removed..... But if it is true that as you say "Strictly speaking nature devised sex for procreation. " Then why are so many men in this community using Viagra to have sex? Seriously they are NOT having sex for procreation now are they.

What does that have to do with it? Are attempting to get back to the point where you can blame Bush again?

Guest 02-19-2016 04:41 PM

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What does that have to do with it? Are attempting to get back to the point where you can blame Bush again?

The poster I was responding to claimed that sex was for procreation....if that were true then men would not be having sex with their wives who have gone through the change....NO PROCREATION.

Why do you bring up Bush? Don't think he is a part of this string.

Lastly what did Jesus say directly about Homosexuality?

Guest 02-19-2016 04:54 PM

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Rubio said that it is a state's right to define marriage, not the federal gov. He did NOT say he would repeal it. He said he would not change the Constitution. He did not say he would repeal any law regarding same sex marriage. This is just a campaign of misinformation perpetrated by deviant liberals.

You do know there are deviant Republicans....The Log Cabin Republicans!

Guest 02-19-2016 04:57 PM

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Nobody said anything about "repealing" gay marriage. Why do you keep perverting what someone says?

But, if you really want to know why it SHOULD be banned, since there is no federal law regarding marriage, maybe it's because the majority of Americans believe that marriage is religious, and the majority of Americans believe that a religious marriage is defined as one man and one woman.

Homosexuality is a deviant abnormal behavior that is TOLERATED, but not condoned. That is my opinion, which is shared by the majority. Deviant, but unharmful behavior should be kept in the bedroom where ALL sexual behavior should be kept. Not in parades in the street or on TV for the children to see.

Was someone having sex during a parade with children present?

Guest 02-19-2016 05:00 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1187986)
The poster I was responding to claimed that sex was for procreation....if that were true then men would not be having sex with their wives who have gone through the change....NO PROCREATION.

Why do you bring up Bush? Don't think he is a part of this string.

Lastly what did Jesus say directly about Homosexuality?

And what does Jesus have to do with this conversation? Why don't you ask HIM what he thinks? Oh......I see....we don't want to go there, right?

Guest 02-19-2016 05:02 PM

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Was someone having sex during a parade with children present?

I have no idea, did they? Since I have not attended them, perhaps you can answer that question. I have no idea why you ask, though. Perhaps, that is another confusion you are forced to contend with.

Guest 02-19-2016 05:04 PM

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You do know there are deviant Republicans....The Log Cabin Republicans!

What's that got to do with the comment? Perhaps you should not be smoking wacky weed while operating a computer.

Guest 02-19-2016 06:10 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1187961)
It was removed..... But if it is true that as you say "Strictly speaking nature devised sex for procreation. " Then why are so many men in this community using Viagra to have sex? Seriously they are NOT having sex for procreation now are they.

You are mixing nature's intent with man's/woman's desires; albeit nature made it pleasant to encourage participation. Again from a biological standpoint men and women fit nicely for the purpose of procreation as nature intended. And as nature intended eventually the old boy and girl's seed /eggs wear down and are unlikely to breed the best of a species and so well you know the rest of the story. Anything beyond that is made man.

Why are men using Viagra? Perhaps it is because they are afraid of growing old? Perhaps you should take a survey. I start by giving you my response. I don't take Viagra. Sex is still in my life but it is not a priority in my life . And quite frankly I believe this nation is too obsessed with sex. There has been only one woman in my life and my love for her has always centered on her heart and soul. Perhaps its why we remained together for so long?

Guest 02-19-2016 06:30 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1188033)
You are mixing nature's intent with man's/woman's desires; albeit nature made it pleasant to encourage participation. Again from a biological standpoint men and women fit nicely for the purpose of procreation as nature intended. And as nature intended eventually the old boy and girl's seed /eggs wear down and are unlikely to breed the best of a species and so well you know the rest of the story. Anything beyond that is made man.

Why are men using Viagra? Perhaps it is because they are afraid of growing old? Perhaps you should take a survey. I start by giving you my response. I don't take Viagra. Sex is still in my life but it is not a priority in my life . And quite frankly I believe this nation is too obsessed with sex. There has been only one woman in my life and my love for her has always centered on her heart and soul. Perhaps its why we remained together for so long?

Amen brother! Well said. Sex is no one's business other than the participants. Unlike gays, most of us prefer privacy and have no need to flaunt it. But gays yearn acceptance of their deviation, and the majority of moral humans just can't give them that. They don't want us to tolerate them. They want us to condone and accept their abnormal behavior. I do sympathize with their mental issues, but if they don't seek treatment for it, there is nothing that can be done to remedy it.

Guest 02-19-2016 08:07 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1188000)
What's that got to do with the comment? Perhaps you should not be smoking wacky weed while operating a computer.

Please try an keep up.....my comment was in response to this:

This is just a campaign of misinformation perpetrated by deviant liberals.

And while I may have a summer home in Colorado I have never smoked weed! Or ate it for that matter.

Guest 02-20-2016 03:47 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1188076)
Please try an keep up.....my comment was in response to this:

This is just a campaign of misinformation perpetrated by deviant liberals.

And while I may have a summer home in Colorado I have never smoked weed! Or ate it for that matter.

Good for you.

Guest 02-20-2016 09:02 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1188047)
Amen brother! Well said. Sex is no one's business other than the participants. Unlike gays, most of us prefer privacy and have no need to flaunt it. But gays yearn acceptance of their deviation, and the majority of moral humans just can't give them that. They don't want us to tolerate them. They want us to condone and accept their abnormal behavior. I do sympathize with their mental issues, but if they don't seek treatment for it, there is nothing that can be done to remedy it.

Sounds as though you should sign up as a guest speaker to present your viewpoints to The Villages Rainbow Club.

Guest 02-20-2016 10:58 AM

[QUOTE=Guest;1187621]So you are a choicer....If humans have brains then we "should" be able to make a choice. Obviously you are NOT gay so at what age did you CHOOSE to be attracted to women, if you are a male. Did you ever feel those same feeling for a man? If you answered YES and then NO you didn't actually make a choice. Its the same for homosexual's they don't make a choice on who they are attracted to the only choice for them is to have a life or not.

As for this BS

IMO most homosexual intention was behavioral problems early in childhood life or lack of affection by the other gender I assuming small percentage hormones got screwed up in the womb, which could explain the homosexual animals. This might have been the thought "Yes some AH opinion" years ago but not for quite some time. Homosexually was removed from the DSM in 1973.[/QUOTE

And You have Your BS opinion. Nobody knows what goes on in insects or animals mind or how they're wired Period, any comparison to humans is as You say BS! lame, and agenda opinion! Fine keep your behavior private. "No one knows what going on behind closed doors" and it should stay that way. Private

Guest 02-20-2016 11:26 AM

If gays believe that homosexuality is caused by DNA then maybe there should be a prenatal test so that the mother, that has a choice over her own body, might be able to abort the abnormal child. After all, it is the woman's choice, right? I am sure that most liberals would jump at the chance to kill another baby, especially one that's flawed.

Guest 02-20-2016 11:29 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1188278)
If gays believe that homosexuality is caused by DNA then maybe there should be a prenatal test so that the mother, that has a choice over her own body, might be able to abort the abnormal child. After all, it is the woman's choice, right? I am sure that most liberals would jump at the chance to kill another baby, especially one that's flawed.

Bait alert!!!

Guest 02-20-2016 11:35 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1188281)
Bait alert!!!

Bothers you when someone else besides the usual libtards makes a comment that you don't like? Get over it. This whole thread is nothing but bait. So, if you don't want to read something you don't approve, go to a different forum. Otherwise, sit back and steam like a cow patty on a cool morning.


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