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Guest 10-15-2008 04:34 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 167090)
please....give us a break!!! What about mccain's drinking!!! What matters are the issues today!!! Let's talk issues...not about either candidates' past. We are in the worst mess ever. Focus on the issues and let's get the candidates to take a stand. We don't want to see any more negative ads from either candidate. I live in pa and just about every commercial break is a political ad! How would you like to be bombarded day in and day out like we are!

couldnt agree with you more!!!!! See how the debate goes..

Guest 10-15-2008 06:01 PM

I find it totally amusing when the tit for tat.....
 
on either side and this forum about who did what wrong....or who is less wrong or righter than another.....especially given the high percentage of politicians, who steal, cheat whore around, have low or no ethics, do nothing that doesn't have gain for them or their special interest groups and on and on and on.....

abuse of power? How refreshing!!!! It means some one chose to do something.
It is one :cus: of a lot better than the play it safe/do nothing trash ethics politicians who are not only in office but some how manage to get re elected.

Use the same Palin type microscope....fly specks in the pepper analysis of the Congressional, Senatorial (State and Federal), Gubernatorial, Mayoral et al incumbents. There certainly is much, much more concern harbored in these offices that are significantly more deserving of partisan ire.

Abuse of power....thank goodness there are some with the character to at least do something!!!!!!

I won't say we have a double standard, that would infer there are some and we know that certainly is not the case.

What a pity!

BTK

Guest 08-02-2009 10:09 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 153901)
I previously said I would not post in The Political Forum while the campaign was on, yet I did post in the Femme Forum to a question that was posed. Sarah Palin and Motherhood. My response was pulled. So, I'll try it here and see if it stays up.

This is the way I see it. Agree or disagree, again, this is the way I see it. Sarah Palin left to go back to work 3 days after giving birth to a boy with Down Syndrome. Then, even though he is now only 4 months old, she decided to take on this campaign. Do I call that great mothering? No, not in my opinion. Today, they announce that her 17 year old unmarried daughter is pregnant. It happens, I get it. Yet, it all seems just fine to her because her daughter is going to have the baby and marry the father. :dontknow: Just another teen pregnancy. Senator Obama took the high road and said "leave families out of it."

OK, so let's talk about the fact that she was the Mayor of a town of only 7,000 people. And it has been stated, that she left that budget in tatters. Now she is the Governor of Alaska, a population of about 700,000 people, or 1/3 or the city of Chicago, or about 80 people per square mile. This is the person chosen to step in if something happens to the President. As Bill Mahr said, "when she gets a call at 3am it's because a moose has kicked over a garbage can. She is also under investigation in Alaska. Is McCain kidding? It's not funny.

Please don't give the argument that this is only a VP. 3 weeks ago, Sarah Palin did not even know what a VP did. Her own words. This particular VP slot is important as this is a 72 year old man that has had 4 bouts of cancer.

I think this is the lowest form of pandering and insulting to all women. If he thinks he's going to get the Hillary voters with Sarah Palin, that's a joke. Sarah Palin stands for everything Hillary Clinton has fought against all of her career. It won't wash.

McCain's choice speaks volumes about his judgement. Only meeting this woman one time, for 15 minutes, he decided she could run our country. He is so busy trying to be a maverick, he made an impulsive, and in my opinion, disastrous choice. This is not the kind of choices I want from the President, a man with his finger on the button. No thanks to the McCain/Palin ticket. You know, just when I think it can't get any worse, it does. We can't afford 4 more years of the same, whether you want to believe that or not. IMHO.
It's actually not 4 more years of the same -- it's worse!

People are complaining about picking on Obama after what they did to Ms. Palin. I'm glad I wasn't posting on this forum last September!!!barf

Guest 08-03-2009 04:05 AM

I have posted in another thread about baiting and bashing. This is an example.
Pulling up a thread posted almost a year ago and using to bait with a
left-handed bash is unacceptable.

Please don't do it.

Guest 08-03-2009 07:15 AM

Of course your right. I ended up on this during a search for airports. DUH. I can't wait to get home and have my own computer.

Guest 08-03-2009 09:09 AM

pssssst, Keedy, come over here right now and listen to Boomer, er Miss Kitty, er Boomer....ohhhh, I know, I have truly gone mad....

But anyway, OK. Now, please listen. First of all, check that six-shooter right up here behind the bar while you are in here.

It will be better to just get over last fall. It's here. It's now. And lots of issues can be discussed as issues. Just issues. That's what real discussion is about. Issues.

We live in a world of information overload. A world from which it seems like the links are never missing anymore. And we could literally paper the board with a link war. That would be easy to do.

Of course, a link sometimes can be quite a good thing. But too many links as thread starts look to me like a leaflet drop like I said the other night when I was explaining some stuff from my angle. We could fling Huffington out there and follow it with Beck and on and on it could go and go. And what would be the point?

There are some really good links in cyberspace. (like the ones I use, of course. ;) -- just kidding. I think we have finally progressed to the stage where we can laugh.) But considering our sources and how they support our own opinions with facts is a really good way to use links. Links can be great starting points. But there are so many out there in cyberspace. There are those in political who make excellent use of links, sharing information on which they comment. And yeah those links can be a little slanted sometimes, but not inflammatory links for the sake of venting.

Also, Mr. Tony, Mr. Admin, Sir, made a really good point the other day about removing the political opinions that are being dragged around the whole board in the signature line. (I have seen them, too.)

Keedy, when I signed on here in November 2007, I had watched for a while. And then I joined. And then I started to post. And then it became part of my routine. And I could not seem to shut up. To this day, it remains my only board. I have watched it grow from a lame little operation with a short column over to the side where a post might appear every half hour if we were lucky. And then it started to grow. And we had information and fun everywhere.

The separate forums began to appear and Political was one of them And it went along with some back and forth that could get maybe a little hot from time to time, during the election, but really no big deal. Still OK.

But at some point fairly recently, things got cranked up to a level that was not like the board I had known for so long. The slant to the right had gone up another notch. And the posts in Political seemed to be dominated by repeated phrases that had been gleaned from the right wing media din.

We have a few remaining in Political who will truly discuss issues as issues. But we also lost some good ones along the way when they just gave up because of the onslaught of all the stuff of the hatred of Obama that permeates parts of the media now. (And trust me, I am sure not defending the far left media. They can get nasty, too.)

Keedy, I am worried about our country, just like you are. And so many others. And I have found that political discussions in real life, also, are becoming so angry sometimes. These are difficult times. And sometimes I think I am living in an Orwell book.

I saw someone compare TOTV to a newspaper somewhere along the line. And sadly, we all know that now newspapers almost all have their slants. And when I saw the cranking up that was happening here on TOTV, I considered just logging off forever. I thought I was seeing TOTV turn into a political rag (or maybe rage) on some days and a real snoozeroonie on others.

And then the lid blew late last week.

And now I think I see a glimmer of hope. Hey, maybe we can have more real discussions in Political. Discussions that I know some people really enjoy reading. Discussions of issues.

And, Keedy, I am not picking on you at all. I appreciate it that you told Mr. Tony that he was right and that you should not have dug up that old thread. Chelsea is a wonderfully funny lady. And yes she is a Democrat but we forgive her. And Chelsea is the one who brought us that thread where we had so much fun writing captions for pictures. There is so much more here than just our politics.

And I have to hand it to you, Keedy, that was downright classy of you to admit that Mr. Tony is right. (But I still want you to hand over that six-shooter to me while you are in here. I will keep it for you right here behind the bar.)

And thanks, Keedy, for listening.

Boomer

Guest 08-03-2009 10:07 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 218074)
I have posted in another thread about baiting and bashing. This is an example.
Pulling up a thread posted almost a year ago and using to bait with a
left-handed bash is unacceptable.

Please don't do it.

Thank you...

Guest 08-03-2009 11:22 AM

Hear! Hear!
 
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Posted by Guest (Post 218123)
...at some point fairly recently, things got cranked up to a level that was not like the board I had known for so long. The slant to the right had gone up another notch. And the posts in Political seemed to be dominated by repeated phrases that had been gleaned from the right wing media din.

We have a few remaining in Political who will truly discuss issues as issues. But we also lost some good ones along the way when they just gave up because of the onslaught of all the stuff of the hatred of Obama that permeates parts of the media now. (And trust me, I am sure not defending the far left media. They can get nasty, too.)...

Hear! Hear!

Sometimes I think it would be far easier to simply take a hike. The only reason I come back sometimes is to see what all the partisans of a particular leaning would find to argue about...er, ah "discuss".

Guest 08-03-2009 05:42 PM

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QUOTE=Boomer;218123]pssssst, Keedy, come over here right now and listen to Boomer, er Miss Kitty, er Boomer....ohhhh, I know, I have truly gone mad....

But anyway, OK. Now, please listen. First of all, check that six-shooter right up here behind the bar while you are in here.

It will be better to just get over last fall. It's here. It's now. And lots of issues can be discussed as issues. J
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ust issues. That's what real discussion is about. Issues.

We live in a world of information overload. A world from which it seems like the links are never missing anymore. And we could literally paper the board with a link war. That would be easy to do.

Of course, a link sometimes can be quite a good thing. But too many links as thread starts look to me like a leaflet drop like I said the other night when I was explaining some stuff from my angle. We could fling Huffington out there and follow it with Beck and on and on it could go and go. And what would be the point?

There are some really good links in cyberspace. (like the ones I use, of course. ;) -- just kidding. I think we have finally progressed to the stage where we can laugh.) But considering our sources and how they support our own opinions with facts is a really good way to use links. Links can be great starting points. But there are so many out there in cyberspace. There are those in political who make excellent use of links, sharing information on which they comment. And yeah those links can be a little slanted sometimes, but not inflammatory links for the sake of venting.

Also, Mr. Tony, Mr. Admin, Sir, made a really good point the other day about removing the political opinions that are being dragged around the whole board in the signature line. (I have seen them, too.)

Keedy, when I signed on here in November 2007, I had watched for a while. And then I joined. And then I started to post. And then it became part of my routine. And I could not seem to shut up. To this day, it remains my only board. I have watched it grow from a lame little operation with a short column over to the side where a post might appear every half hour if we were lucky. And then it started to grow. And we had information and fun everywhere.

The separate forums began to appear and Political was one of them And it went along with some back and forth that could get maybe a little hot from time to time, during the election, but really no big deal. Still OK.

But at some point fairly recently, things got cranked up to a level that was not like the board I had known for so long. The slant to the right had gone up another notch. And the posts in Political seemed to be dominated by repeated phrases that had been gleaned from the right wing media din.

We have a few remaining in Political who will truly discuss issues as issues. But we also lost some good ones along the way when they just gave up because of the onslaught of all the stuff of the hatred of Obama that permeates parts of the media now. (And trust me, I am sure not defending the far left media. They can get nasty, too.)

Keedy, I am worried about our country, just like you are. And so many others. And I have found that political discussions in real life, also, are becoming so angry sometimes. These are difficult times. And sometimes I think I am living in an Orwell book.

I saw someone compare TOTV to a newspaper somewhere along the line. And sadly, we all know that now newspapers almost all have their slants. And when I saw the cranking up that was happening here on TOTV, I considered just logging off forever. I thought I was seeing TOTV turn into a political rag (or maybe rage) on some days and a real snoozeroonie on others.
And then the lid blew late last week.

And now I think I see a glimmer of hope. Hey, maybe we can have more real discussions in Political. Discussions that I know some people really enjoy reading. Discussions of issues.

And, Keedy, I am not picking on you at all. I appreciate it that you told Mr. Tony that he was right and that you should not have dug up that old thread. Chelsea is a wonderfully funny lady. And yes she is a Democrat but we forgive her. And Chelsea is the one who brought us that thread where we had so much fun writing captions for pictures. There is so much more here than just our politics.

And I have to hand it to you, Keedy, that was downright classy of you to admit that Mr. Tony is right. [SIZE="1"](But I still want you to hand over that six-shooter to me while you are in here. I will keep it for you right here behind the bar.)

And thanks, Keedy, for listening.
Well, I wasn't here on this forum last fall but it was turned up a few notches in the threads I read. As far as your friend being funny...well, humor is subjective...I didn't chuckle once.
We are going through extraordinary times and that makes alot of people nervous. Some of us saw it coming but many refused to see.

Boomer....You have written my name at least 5 times in your post. Please send me a PM if you want to talk one on one.

Guest 11-01-2009 07:39 PM

Now that the "moderate" republican candidate in the New York election has withdrawn from the race and endorsed the democrat, it is clear that Sarah Palin not only had the guts to endorse the conservative candidate over the republican, the foresight to see that it really was a two person race and should not include a "moderate" republican, and the political power to make a difference. We will see who has the star power in two nights.

Guest 11-04-2009 05:59 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 231737)
Now that the "moderate" republican candidate in the New York election has withdrawn from the race and endorsed the democrat, it is clear that Sarah Palin not only had the guts to endorse the conservative candidate over the republican, the foresight to see that it really was a two person race and should not include a "moderate" republican, and the political power to make a difference. We will see who has the star power in two nights.

JimJoe:

How did that work out for you? We New Yorkers (upstate) are far smarter than that.
:wave::wave::wave::wave::wave:

Guest 11-04-2009 08:05 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 232057)
JimJoe:

How did that work out for you? We New Yorkers (upstate) are far smarter than that.
:wave::wave::wave::wave::wave:

I am sure you are proud of a win with 49% of the vote, and the defeated conservative had no support from the republican party. I wonder how Sarah can do if she actually shows up. Obviously President Obama and Biden didn't have much luck with their appearances in Virginia and New Jersey.

Guest 11-04-2009 09:43 AM

The media keeps calling Dede, whatever her last name is, a moderate. She is liberal. She is further to the left then Owens. Considering he only had a few weeks, Hoffman did okay. He only lost by 3% points. I'm sure ACORN alone could account for that amount.

Guest 11-04-2009 09:48 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 232089)
The media keeps calling Dede, whatever her last name is, a moderate. She is liberal. She is further to the left then Owens. Considering he only had a few weeks, Hoffman did okay. He only lost by 3% points. I'm sure ACORN alone could account for that amount.

Didn't know they were involved. Show me!

Guest 11-04-2009 09:49 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 232065)
I am sure you are proud of a win with 49% of the vote, and the defeated conservative had no support from the republican party. I wonder how Sarah can do if she actually shows up. Obviously President Obama and Biden didn't have much luck with their appearances in Virginia and New Jersey.

I am.


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