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Guest 08-30-2008 12:06 AM

Re: Sarah Palin? Really?
 
I agree with you joannej. I think it's an insult to all women! Selection says women don't have the intelligence to vote based on issues, they'll vote based on gender. No national experience on economics, no experience with how "inside the beltway" works, and no international relations experience. The Washington politicions will eat her alive as a midmorning snack. She would be a heart beat away from being President of the United States. A very close heart beat considering McCain's age and medical problems. All that, with the possibility of four more years of the same, scares me.

Guest 08-30-2008 12:25 AM

Re: Sarah Palin? Really?
 
Mike H :agree: The V.P debates will be interesting.

Guest 08-30-2008 12:48 AM

Re: Sarah Palin? Really?
 
I'm with you Frank. She's no Hillary. Thank goodness.

I'll put her experience up against Obama's anyday.

Guest 08-30-2008 12:57 AM

Sorry Rhonda --- Robin was a slip
 
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Muncle. My name is Rhonda not Robin, and I know that was not a slip, because you have called me that before and I let it go. I take it as name calling and won't stoop to that level. I know most, MOST women stay home for several weeks after a birth to bond with a child if they CAN. I hated, HATED to leave my children to go back to work at 6 weeks, but I HAD to. I was also VERY fortunate that I worked opposite my hubs hours and we never HAD to have a babysitter and never did. My hub is a fantastic Dad!! He worked all day and cared for our children at night since birth so we could put a roof over our heads and food on the table. I just really feel that the baby will not bond with her because she will be way too busy. It is just my opinion. I do not expect anyone to agree with me and I don't care if they do or not. I thought everyone has agreed to disagree. One other question, would PALIN be a great president if, God Forbid, something happened to McCain? I don't think so. To me, it is strange that a virtual unknown (until now) with very little political experience (PTA, runner-up Miss Alaska, and journalist don't count as political experience) was the choice! As I said before, LET THE GAMES BEGIN! I am going out now, and will not post in political again until after the elections. Have a nice day!! LOL BTW Peggy, you are soooo right!!

Rhonda,
I hate to disappoint you, but calling you Robin in the previous post was completely, totally, and absolutely a slip, a brain cramp on my part if you will. And I have NEVER called you that before. To verify this, I did a search on the word and found that I had typed "Robin" one time. This was months ago in as discussion of puns and I said: "A punch line has been going through my head all day and I cannot remember the setup.

"A mime is a terrible thing to waste."

I know it was used in Robin Hood: Men in Tights, but I seem to remember that it was a punchline in a terrible joke."


To the best of my knowledge and as far as I can research, I have never otherwise typed the word.

As for the rest of your msg, I will concede that you are undoubtedly correct, that it is far more beneficial for both child and mother to have a most extensive period of bonding. It is beneficial both in the short and long run.

However, I stand by my assessment that had your statement been made by a male, especially a conservative male, about any woman in public life, especially a liberal woman, he would have been chastised within an inch of his life.

And as for Palin being a totally inexperienced person only a heartbeat from the presidency, I find that preferable to having an equally or ever less experienced person actually being elected president. But neither side will concede on this, so it should be an interesting 67 days.

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Since you have chosen to abstain from this forum for a time, I hope someone will advise you of my reply. The Robin reference was an accident, no harm, sarcasm, or anything else meant. I apologize.

Guest 08-30-2008 01:16 AM

Re: Sarah Palin? Really?
 
Partisan tunnel vision is quite easy to understand.
The very narrowly defined thinking process was clearly stated by Nancy Pelosi....if it is anything from the other party I am against it.

I like what Muncle said....she seems to be a real person.

And I do absolutely believe the farther away from Washington a person is from, the more real they are.

Experience.....what an elusive, shapeless, anything anybody wants it to mean expression.

It is a known fact in management accomplishment, the less a person is ingrained in a system, the easier it is to make changes because they don't know why it has to stay like it is...or has been.

As for the other chanting regarding change....why is all the rhetoric so all of a sudden more believable now than for the past 40 years? How about an example....let's see now...ahah...the energy crisis of the 70's and all the promises of how that was never going to happen again...energy promises by the thousands....accomplishment...zip...nada...more dependent now than ever..over 300% more dependent.
The promise of change is only lubrication in the form of pompous rhetoric.

I believe McCain's choice will prove to be very interesting and I'll bet disarming to many as the political tit for tat begins. It has been said Biden will have her for lunch during the debates.....I bet not.
She certainly does not have a Washington you-owe-me list to deal with.

Yep! I prefer a real person over a politician anytime.

BTK

Guest 08-30-2008 01:23 AM

Re: Sarah Palin? Really?
 
Kahuna I agree with you totally. I am a life long independent who voted for Reagan twice and Nixon twice,now that I am voting for Obama my best friend of nearly 50 years says that I am a :edit: Liberal Seems if you vote democrat that you are disloyal against our troops and for our common enemies. He is still my best friend even though I told him that Bush cheney, and dumbsfeld should be given a fair trial and excuted in the morning. There were no Al-Qaeda in Iraq there were no terrorist training camps in Iraq the camps were in Afghanistan and were being trained by the Taliban and last but not least Osama Bin laden was hiding in a cave in Afghanistan. Whoever wins this election I can live with can't say that about the last two elections

Guest 08-30-2008 01:28 AM

Re: Sarah Palin? Really?
 
The choice was simple. John McCain has said he is not good with computers. The VP selection is based on computer models. McCain was asked what he was looking for. He said we are going to continue the Bush policy of never telling the truth so we need someone who can spin a good snow job. That gave Alaska bonus points. He also said he likes bimbo beauty queens. McCain said with Cindy starting to show her age, he has made it his personal policy to dump a partner when they become handicapped so being younger was important. Sarah Palin fit the criteria.

Guest 08-30-2008 01:36 AM

Re: Sarah Palin? Really?
 
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Seriously folks, don't you think McCain's pandering to women with this choice! His VP candidate is no Hillary and never will be. What a dog and pony show!! He doesn't have my vote.

I agree. Palin, you've got to be kidding. So she was runner-up as Miss Alaska. Hardly qualifies her to be a heartbeat away from acting as the head of the free world. When you look at the qualified people McCain passed by to pick her, again brings in to question his judgement. He's 72 years old, with health issues, and she is so unqualified. As someone else said, she's pretty and she was a journalism major. And she is governor of a state with very few people. Hardly makes her even begin to be qualified. If he thinks this will appeal to the Hillary voters, he is in la la land. She is totally against Hillary's principles. In short, Palin is a true featherweight.

Guest 08-30-2008 02:06 AM

Re: Sarah Palin? Really?
 
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Posted by Guest
Seriously folks, don't you think McCain's pandering to women with this choice! His VP candidate is no Hillary and never will be. What a dog and pony show!! He doesn't have my vote.

No, I think that McCain is trying to connect even more so to the ordinary American, the small town people who cling to their guns and Bibles, who wrap themselves in the flag because they love their country. This lady, Palin, is going to be one of the biggest assets to the conservative movement than we have seen in years. And it is time to take the conservative party back, or else start a new one.

Guest 08-30-2008 02:15 AM

In The End
 
The choice for President will eventually be made based on the man at the top of the ticket, not his choice for VP. Having said that, the choice for the second highest office in the U.S. reflects on the judgement of the person at the top of the ticket. Constitutionally, as has been said many times, the VP is only a heartbeat away from becoming President.

In this case, John McCain either selected or approved the selection by the Republican National Committee of a person with no serious qualifications to be the President of the U.S. He did so having met the woman only once before today and knowing that he has had four bouts with cancer and would be the oldest President ever elected if he is successful.

This choice reflects badly on McCain, a man I respect highly. It appears that he is pandering the social and religious conservatives that form the base of the Republican party. We know that Sara Palin is staunchly pro-life, would vote against any form of gun control, is against the teaching of anything but Biblical-based science in schools, and so forth. But are these the most important qualifications for one who could become the leader of the strongest country in the free world? I think not.

The choice reflects badly on either the judgement of John McCain or his willingness to make a sound decision, even if it is one not favored by a faction that has and has had very narrow litmus tests for those they find acceptable as their political leaders. While I might not have voted for John McCain I am truly saddened by this choice and the lack of judgement it implies.

The comparisons of qualifications between Barack Obama and Sarah Palin are inevitable. But there is a huge difference. Obama won the nomination in a sometimes brutal, highly competitive, long campaign that began with almost a dozen candidates. Millions and millions of Americans evaluated their choices and elected him as the candidate they believed most qualified and who stood for the principles they felt important. Sarah Palin was appointed to her position, either by a man who thought she might enhance his campaign for the presidency, or by an influential group of political supporters who may have traded their support for a VP based on a narrow set of litmus tests. Yet given the age and medical history of the person she might serve as President, she could easily accede to the position, regardless of her qualifications and preparedness.

I have said before that I would be satisfied by the leadership of either of our candidates for President if they were elected. After this decision on a VP, that is a statement I will no longer make.

Guest 08-30-2008 02:37 AM

Re: Sarah Palin? Really?
 
You make some very very valid points VILLAGEKAHUNA. I do not endorse Sen McCain however in some fashion, somebody someday will need to explain to me how I can support a community organizer who has ties to very questionable folks should be my President based on oratory skills.
When that is done, I can then accept Sen Obama.

I hope that does not come across as negative nor disrespectful. It is how I feel honestly and sincerely and I tried to state it as clearly as possible. I raise this question and folks say it is no cause for concern but cannot rebut nor deny what I say, and I submit that I can never recall a candidate for President of this country with such ties to radical groups and people.

Guest 08-30-2008 01:10 PM

Re: Sarah Palin? Really?
 
Bucco, I used to be "tied" to the John Birch Society. I'm not tied to them any longer. We evolve. That's what has kept many species alive.
Are you the same person you were in your thirties? If you are, you haven't grown much.
(I do not mean you particularly. I am speaking in generalities.) :-*

Guest 08-30-2008 01:37 PM

Re: Sarah Palin? Really?
 
Bucco, I used to be "tied" to the John Birch Society. I'm not tied to them any longer. We evolve. That's what has kept many species alive.
Are you the same person you were in your thirties? If you are, you haven't grown much.
(I do not mean you particularly. I am speaking in generalities.)
__________________________________________________ ________

Not sure what you are implying with this post..I have grown but would ask that you at least read about his associates and mentors and tell me that you are comfortable with that background ! I am not talking race nor religion but basic idealogy he has been taught in his church, in his jobs.

Guest 08-30-2008 01:42 PM

Re: Sarah Palin? Really?
 
Just want to add...I doubt if you will do as I suggested and read about the background, but just want to make clear...this excludes those chain letter emails and hate sites on the net. Just read FACTS....his own words as to who formed his life...not the recent ones where he backed off but just read and keep it to facts and not the stuff folks make up and circulate.

Guest 08-30-2008 02:26 PM

Re: In The End
 
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I have said before that I would be satisfied by the leadership of either of our candidates for President if they were elected. After this decision on a VP, that is a statement I will no longer make.

Personally, I'm pleased that a "Governor" is on the ticket, as opposed to another Senator. I wouldn't have cared which governor, but without one, the Republican ticket would have been another mirror of the Democratic - a couple of guys from the "100 Club." Governors at least have to be executives - CEOs of a state, actually responsible for public administration - delivering services, spending money, and satisfying "customers." Senators see life from afar, never having any real responsibility (who remembers who voted or abstained from what bill?).

If Sen. Biden was to balance Sen. Obama's lack of foreign policy experience, Gov. Palin balances Sen. McCain's lack of public administration experience. Who provides the public administration experience on the Democratic ticket?



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