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School Taxes???
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Old 08-10-2015, 09:47 AM
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Have you ever asked yourself why homeowners in The Villages have to pay school taxes? This tax has no tangible value to seniors, especially those living on a fixed income, so why do we have to pay it? Most likely if you owned a home in another location, had school age children the paying of school tax was ingrained in your mind as having a benefit for you, but paying the school tax now as a senior has no benefit than I can see other than taking money out of my pocket.

I understand The Villages has a great school system, however in all honesty I don't care simply because paying for other peoples children's education is metaphorically taking "food off my table". As a senior who no longer has the ability to increase my income I feel this is a fair way of protecting my lifestyle in light of constant increases is goods and services.

I'd be interested in hearing some feedback on this topic.

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Old 08-10-2015, 10:18 AM
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But there are tangible benefits.
TV schools are predominantly for the children of those who work in TV
Doctors
Lawyers
Hair dresser
Plumber
Restaurant owners & staff
Store owners & staff
Etc
Etc

Many of all of our favorite goods and services and service providers may well not be here if the schools did not exist.
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Old 08-10-2015, 10:21 AM
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You can't pick and chose, which government programs you want to pay for, and the ones that you don't. When we had children, someone else that didn't have kids, paid for a portion of our children's education. Turn about is fair play.

The taxes that you should worry about are a flat tax with no deductions, and a national sales tax. A flat tax with no deductions is about a regressive tax as you can get. Therefore, it will never happen.

I don't remember the exact number but I think that 16+% of seniors don't pay income tax. A national sales tax would increase the taxes for all of those seniors. We paid income taxes all of our lives, and now they are going to change the rules. Just fix the federal income tax taking away the rules that help people at the top avoid playing taxes.

If you want to call this socialism, go right ahead. What do you call the top income earners buying their Congressman or woman? Good use of their money!
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Old 08-10-2015, 10:44 AM
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You can't pick and chose, which government programs you want to pay for, and the ones that you don't. When we had children, someone else that didn't have kids, paid for a portion of our children's education. Turn about is fair play.

The taxes that you should worry about are a flat tax with no deductions, and a national sales tax. A flat tax with no deductions is about a regressive tax as you can get. Therefore, it will never happen.

I don't remember the exact number but I think that 16+% of seniors don't pay income tax. A national sales tax would increase the taxes for all of those seniors. We paid income taxes all of our lives, and now they are going to change the rules. Just fix the federal income tax taking away the rules that help people at the top avoid playing taxes.

If you want to call this socialism, go right ahead. What do you call the top income earners buying their Congressman or woman? Good use of their money!
If everyone pays a portion of their income, then they have an investment in the game. Bush messed up with the tax breaks he gave to the lower income folks, in that they no longer have an investment in the game and do not care HOW that money is being utilized.
In my opinion, taxing anyone more than another is not treating everyone equally and is unconstitutional.
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Old 08-10-2015, 11:01 AM
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Unfortunately we have never had children but have had to pay property taxes all our lives to put children thru school. It is amazing how much money is going to schools. I'd be more concerned about what we are getting for our money. What is the U.S. position in education in regard to math, science, ect. with the rest of the world. What are those countries paying per student compared to us. What percent of each dollar goes toward salary? The questions go on and on.
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Old 08-10-2015, 11:25 AM
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Are you talking about eliminating every social program that helps low income folks? Are you talking about getting rid the earned income credit? The low income do have an investment in the game. It is called putting food on the table.

You could soften the blow on low income people by getting rid of social security, and Medicare taxes. You treat them like any other item in the budget funded by income taxes. You just reduced the national debt by 5.1 trillion dollars. There would be no need for the Social Security Trust Fund. You just increased the tax on people making over the social security maximum by 6.2%.

A flat tax based upon gross income would destroy the housing market. How many people bought their house with the assumption that property tax, and mortgage interest were deductible on their income taxes? Take away these deductions they can't pay their mortgage. The housing market would be flooded. Housing prices drop, and you have a banking crises to equal or worse then the 2008 great recession.

Simple solution to a complex problem never works.
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Old 08-10-2015, 11:36 AM
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Unfortunately we have never had children but have had to pay property taxes all our lives to put children thru school. It is amazing how much money is going to schools. I'd be more concerned about what we are getting for our money. What is the U.S. position in education in regard to math, science, ect. with the rest of the world. What are those countries paying per student compared to us. What percent of each dollar goes toward salary? The questions go on and on.
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Old 08-10-2015, 11:49 AM
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Unfortunately we have never had children but have had to pay property taxes all our lives to put children thru school. It is amazing how much money is going to schools. I'd be more concerned about what we are getting for our money. What is the U.S. position in education in regard to math, science, ect. with the rest of the world. What are those countries paying per student compared to us. What percent of each dollar goes toward salary? The questions go on and on.
At the age most of us are now....iF you haven't decided to find out up until now. Then don't worry about.
On the plus side you could view you are almost done paying!
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Old 08-10-2015, 12:36 PM
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Are you talking about eliminating every social program that helps low income folks? Are you talking about getting rid the earned income credit? The low income do have an investment in the game. It is called putting food on the table.

You could soften the blow on low income people by getting rid of social security, and Medicare taxes. You treat them like any other item in the budget funded by income taxes. You just reduced the national debt by 5.1 trillion dollars. There would be no need for the Social Security Trust Fund. You just increased the tax on people making over the social security maximum by 6.2%.

A flat tax based upon gross income would destroy the housing market. How many people bought their house with the assumption that property tax, and mortgage interest were deductible on their income taxes? Take away these deductions they can't pay their mortgage. The housing market would be flooded. Housing prices drop, and you have a banking crises to equal or worse then the 2008 great recession.

Simple solution to a complex problem never works.
Sure, get rid of the earned income credit. Why not? Why should someone be given money they never paid into the system?
As far as SS and Medicare, if you wish to get rid of it, fine. Give me all that I paid in plus the interest I WOULD have accumulated if it had been invested. As far as Medicare is concerned, I don't use it. I have full coverage under BC/BS. Medicare is a ripoff unless you are willing to pay extra for Medicare part B,C and D. The medicare that you pay for all your life before retirement only pays for hospitalization. If you don't believe me, look it up.
As for those getting some sort of breaks or they can't afford to pay their mortgage, oh well. You shouldn't borrow money you can't afford to pay back out of your budget. Just because the gov gets away with it, doesn't make it right. Tough love, baby.
And bailing out the banks was not my idea. Did they bail you out when your stock portfolio took a dive? No!
Sounds to me like you are living off the gov teat and don't understand the concept of being weaned off of it. A mature healthy adult doesn't need someone else to pay their way.
Your comment about low income people being invested in the game by providing food for the table, is ludicrous. That's not investment, that's dependence. Depending on someone else to provide for them, the gov. You don't seem to understand at all.
We had the mortgage crisis for other reasons than folks getting tax breaks and then being able to pay their mortgages. TO simplify it, those that gave up on paying their mortgages did so because they had adjustable rate mortgages that they couldn't pay after five years because the interest rate went up. They should never have been given those loans to begin with. Many of them thought they were going to make a million bucks over night when their home value went up. It had been for several years before the buble finally burst. They walked away without paying their obligation.

But, this has nothing to do with school taxes. The answer to that question is, yes you should pay for it, just as everyone else participates in it. As long as the gov intends to provide eduction for our children, then yes we should pay taxes for it. If you don't drive, do you believe that you should pay taxes to pay for maintaining the highways and bridges? Same thing.

No one enjoys paying taxes. What we really hate is when that money the gov takes from us is used frivolously.
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Old 08-10-2015, 01:53 PM
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A better question to ask is why is the amount of tax you pay into the school system tied to the assessed value of your house (property tax). Also, in Sumter County, which has the highest average age of any county in the US, you would expect the property tax to be very low since the number of households with school age kids should be relatively small.


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Have you ever asked yourself why homeowners in The Villages have to pay school taxes? This tax has no tangible value to seniors, especially those living on a fixed income, so why do we have to pay it? Most likely if you owned a home in another location, had school age children the paying of school tax was ingrained in your mind as having a benefit for you, but paying the school tax now as a senior has no benefit than I can see other than taking money out of my pocket.

I understand The Villages has a great school system, however in all honesty I don't care simply because paying for other peoples children's education is metaphorically taking "food off my table". As a senior who no longer has the ability to increase my income I feel this is a fair way of protecting my lifestyle in light of constant increases is goods and services.

I'd be interested in hearing some feedback on this topic.
 

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