So, what you are saying is that you'd rather kill an unborn child that a criminal? Somehow, I'm not surprised.

No, it doesn't mean they will get insurance but it does mean they can. It also means they will be a little easier to find after an accident (and, yes, I do understand people move and don't change their address). As I said, many illegals do their best to not break any laws once here. They don't want to get caught and deported, for one thing. If they didn't care about the laws, 379,000 people wouldn't have bothered with the time and expense required in getting a license that absolutely marks them as an illegal.

Typical Alinski-esque reply of diverting the question. It is right out of the right wing playbook.

Very typical Alinski-esque reply from this poster. He loves to use the Alinski tactic of ridicule- which must make him get the tingly feeling running down his leg.

I didn't say I was Pro Choice. I said it was irrelevant to this thread. You do like to take the extreme position, don't you? Illegals are invaders and should be executed by anyone who sees them? You're talking about murdering men, women and children. How can this not be morally abhorrent?

Yes, they should be detained if caught. If they do not qualify to remain in this country for any legal reason such as political asylum, they should be sent back to their nation of origin. They do not deserve to be hunted down and shot.

Give it a rest already! Same old talking points.

If they really cared about the laws they wouldn't be here illegally.

Whether they are leaving their country out of fear or hunger or whatever, they see no alternative but to break our immigration laws. That doesn't preclude them from wanting to abide by other laws if for no other reason than just so they don't get caught and deported. we all pick and choose what laws we wish to break. Personally, I speed but I do stop at every stop sign, even the meaningless ones in TV. Sadly, the vast majority of us are criminals in one way or another.

Well, I guess if you have a good reason, then your are justified in breaking the law. Makes sense to me.:rolleyes:

That isn't what I said. I so love how words are twisted here to try to win a point. I never said anyone was justified in breaking a law. I simply said we do. If I get caught speeding, I expect to get a ticket. If my best friend gets arrested for shoplifting, I expect to post her bond. If you have never deliberately broken a law, then feel free to get snarky. If, however, you, like the vast majority of humans, have deliberately broken a law of your country or state, then you're a criminal as much as the illegal crossing our border. Should we shoot the reckless driver? How about the homeless man sleeping on the park bench since vagrancy is against the law in most municipalities?

We need to come up with some real solutions. The countries from which these people come need to be brought to the table to stop the flow. America cannot do this alone. Our borders are too vast and people are too desperate.

I would love to see ESL stopped except in the judicial system. No Spanish radio or television in our borders. Total immersion in English for students. etc, etc., etc. No Medicaid, food stamps or any other form of public assistance unless a citizen or holder of a legitimate green card.

But give the people that are here a chance to be a little less of a criminal where possible. So, yes, let them drive legally.

There is no official language in the US. If there ever were, it could just as easily be designated to be Spanish if Spanish speakers are the majority.

If a Spanish only speaking person is breaking the law, how would anyone know if they were from Puerto Rico (US citizen) or Cuba (perfectly legal) or Mexico (could be illegal).

I finally your point...which is to give criminals a chance to be a little of a criminal.

That "tingly feeling running down his leg" is a quote from the left. Remember your favorite, Chris Matthews? His comment. Just like your attempt to ignorantly (not an insult) use Alinski, when you know that is more kin to the left, not the right. If you really want to discuss Alinski, we can but that would just make it easier for you to divert.

You first. I asked you what you would do. So, you throw it back with a question. You didn't answer my question. Not the part regarding abortion. That's not relevant.

No, you don't get my point. Actually, I think you got it a lot earlier but have no real rebuttal, so are now resorting to a poor attempt at sarcasm. It really is a shame that an honest discourse cannot exist without ultimately resorting to sarcasm and name calling in this forum.

And I'm outta here.

Why? They do it in other countries, don't they? Besides, did I say hunted down and shot? No, I said they should or could be shot coming over the border, when it is clearly posted. Twist that one around a bit.

"By the way, I am Pro-Choice and believe that it is the pregnant mother's choice to decide for herself and not up to government to decide for her."

You didn't say this? Or, you don't remember saying that? Maybe that was a different person that wrote that? I may be mistaken.

Different person.

Sorry, Lambie Pie, that was me who said I was Pro-Choice. According to a very recent Gallup poll, 54 percent of American women and 46 percent of American men identify themselves as Pro-Choice and 44 percent of men and women as Pro-Life.

Must be the same person. Same name.....:1rotfl::1rotfl:

So, if 54 percent of women voters and 46 percent of male voters identify themselves as Pro-Choice, the Republican candidates (such as Rubio and Walker) who say they oppose abortion in ANY event - including rape and incest - are NOT going to be getting the votes of these people - and that is only one plank in their platform.

Sounds like a loser of a plank if you ask me. However, they have gone on record and they now own their statement.

Driver licenses for undocumented immigrants is a matter of good sense and nothing else. It does not give them voting rights. Would you rather see a licensed and insured driver on the road or unlicensed and uninsured?

The abortion issue is just liberal desperation. It's a moot issue. Selling body parts on the other hand, could hurt liberals.

Illegals driving is not good sense, it's contrary to the law. Kind of like offering free samples to a shoplifter as they are exiting the store. Like why enforce DWI laws when we know so many are going to do it anyway.

Clinton is going away. Better get another substitute fast or stand back and let the RNC decide who will be the next Republican pres.