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Guest 04-26-2016 03:22 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1217491)
1. Go back and read the post I quoted.

2. See #1.

3. Probably about 30 seconds.


Thank you for proving my point.

??????????? :shrug:

Guest 04-26-2016 05:49 AM

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I passed Harriet Tubman's little white house many a time over the years as it sits not too far from the lake and down the road from St. Joseph's cemetery . Also drove by William H. Seward's mansion often which sits in downtown .

Harriet Tubman was an important component of the Underground Railroad but not the leading component. And William H. Seward Secretary of State, purchaser of Alaska and founder of the Republican Party under Abraham Lincoln help guide us through the civil war.

The fact is that the 1964 Civil Rights Act was the beginning of "Black Lives Matter" only movement and has since then been fueled by misguided white guilt. I say this because people of all colors, creeds, national origins have dealt with the same issues of mistreatment since the beginning of time.

Its not fair but its the human experience and eventually decent living people say enough is enough and equilibrium takes hold. But should we go beyond that? Should balance be turned on its head? Should emotional over reach overtake logic? Should those once offended now be allowed to offend with impunity? Should only Black Lives Matter matter?

The original plan was to place a woman on the $10 bill. Alexander Hamilton is placed in higher regard than Andrew Jackson, a slave owner. And since it became a crime to display the Confederate flag and all things southern fell out of vogue, except their warm weather and lower taxes who better to display than Harriet Tubman. Consider by the way that confederate soldiers were legally American war veterans

Is it coincidence by the way that the $20 bill is the most circulated bill in America will now display a woman of color. Is it wrong?

I felt an affection for that little white house every time I passed it . A sense of pride that America and Americans would always right the wrongs, always do what was right and just in the long run.

However because of the over reach by the left on this issue of race betrays Harriet Tubman because many of us won't know if she really is on the $20 bill for her accomplishments or if its some type of atonement ? I say this because i wonder why given his great accomplishment during those civil war years Willaim H Seward was not considered or countless other American men or women who have served this nation with distinction.

In fact I wonder why not place "the unknown soldier" on this most circulated bill?

I to passed that little white house every day. I take great pride in coming from the city she chose as her home. I am also proud that they are placing her on a bill. It should not matter about the color of her skin or her gender. Honor her for the great work she did. This is not to say Jackson was not good, but maybe as the world changes we should open our eyes and change also.

Guest 04-26-2016 06:07 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1217586)
I to passed that little white house every day. I take great pride in coming from the city she chose as her home. I am also proud that they are placing her on a bill. It should not matter about the color of her skin or her gender. Honor her for the great work she did. This is not to say Jackson was not good, but maybe as the world changes we should open our eyes and change also.

Great work she did???

She "supposedly" helped 300 slaves escape.

That is ALL she did.

Guest 04-26-2016 06:22 AM

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Great work she did???

She "supposedly" helped 300 slaves escape.

That is ALL she did.

Some people only see and hear what they want to. You and many others are blinded by the color of a person skin and refuse to see the person inside and the great works they did.

1. Harriet Tubman was known as the Moses of her people. ‘Go Down Moses' is a song she used to communicate her coming and going.

2. After the outbreak of the Civil War, Harriet Tubman became a soldier, spy and a nurse.

3.Harriet was successful as a nurse due to her ability to cure men of dysentery by means of native herbs.

4.She was the first woman to lead an armed expedition in the war. She guided the Combahee River Raid, consisting of 300 free African soldiers on 3 gun boats to liberate more than 700 enslaved Africans in South Carolina.

5.In her later years, Tubman worked to promote the cause of women's suffrage. Tubman travelled to New York, Boston, and Washington, D.C. to speak out in favour of women's voting rights. When the National Federation of Afro-American Women was founded in 1896, Tubman was the keynote speaker at its first meeting.

6. Harriet Tubman spent her last years in a home called the ‘Harriet Tubman Home for Aged and Indigent Negro' which she established in Auburn New York.

7. After her death, Harriet Tubman was buried in Fort Hill Cemetery in Auburn with military honors.

Harriet Tubman devoted her life towards the abolition of slavery. She is an inspiration to many for her relentless struggle for equality and civil rights. She is one of the most notable figures in the history.

I am again proud to say I am from the city she called home.
And I am very pleased I do not share the hateful and bigoted ideas of some the postings about this matter.

Guest 04-26-2016 06:34 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1217600)
Harriet Tubman devoted her life towards the abolition of slavery. She is an inspiration to many for her relentless struggle for equality and civil rights.

I'm sure you realize, this is the part that really ticks off the racists, bigots and misogynists.




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She is one of the most notable figures in the history.
Yeah, but all she did was help human beings escape being owned by other human beings. Besides, she was ugly too. (sarcasm of course)

The posters who have denigrated her looks are most likely the type of males who think women must always look pretty, while believing their own pot-bellied, pasty-faced and mostly bald heads are some kind of gift to humanity.

Guest 04-26-2016 06:36 AM

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I asked you "at what age did you decide you were attracted to the opposite sex and not the same sex" and you have purposely refused to answer a simple question.

The reason of course, to anyone with a bit of intelligence, is that you didn't make that choice...it was made for you.

Yes, that sexual choice was automatic for me at an early age (I am a heterosexual). What if I was sexually attracted to my sister, would that attraction make it acceptable to the majority of people? What if I was attracted to killing the neighbor's pets, does that make it acceptable to the majority of people?

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While someone may feel 'icky' about same sex attraction of two consenting adults, that doesn't automatically mean it should be illegal. Heck, I personally think tattoos and drunken seniors are icky, but I'm not running around trying to get them outlawed if they really don't affect me (drunk driving being an obvious exception).

If there were a large majority of people that felt it was "icky" (maybe 96.6% of the population), you should understand that it is considered "icky", and keep that stuff to yourself, unless your goal is to have a lot of people tell you how "icky" it is...

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In other words, you don't have the right to force your feeling of repulsion on others, if it is between two consenting adults and doesn't affect you.

I believe; I do have the right to express my feelings of repulsion, if I get enough support from others (maybe 96.6% of the population) we can force our feeling of repulsion on those that are repulsing us.

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Why in the world would you think your right to not being uncomfortable, trumps other people's right to do things that really doesn't affect you and is between consenting adults?

Why in the world would less than 4% of the population, think they have a right to make the majority of the population (96.6%) feel uncomfortable with that "icky" ****?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...n-or-bisexual/

STOCK UP ON AMMO!

Guest 04-26-2016 06:41 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1217600)
Some people only see and hear what they want to. You and many others are blinded by the color of a person skin and refuse to see the person inside and the great works they did.

1. Harriet Tubman was known as the Moses of her people. ‘Go Down Moses' is a song she used to communicate her coming and going.

2. After the outbreak of the Civil War, Harriet Tubman became a soldier, spy and a nurse.

3.Harriet was successful as a nurse due to her ability to cure men of dysentery by means of native herbs.

4.She was the first woman to lead an armed expedition in the war. She guided the Combahee River Raid, consisting of 300 free African soldiers on 3 gun boats to liberate more than 700 enslaved Africans in South Carolina.

5.In her later years, Tubman worked to promote the cause of women's suffrage. Tubman travelled to New York, Boston, and Washington, D.C. to speak out in favour of women's voting rights. When the National Federation of Afro-American Women was founded in 1896, Tubman was the keynote speaker at its first meeting.

6. Harriet Tubman spent her last years in a home called the ‘Harriet Tubman Home for Aged and Indigent Negro' which she established in Auburn New York.

7. After her death, Harriet Tubman was buried in Fort Hill Cemetery in Auburn with military honors.

Harriet Tubman devoted her life towards the abolition of slavery. She is an inspiration to many for her relentless struggle for equality and civil rights. She is one of the most notable figures in the history.

I am again proud to say I am from the city she called home.
And I am very pleased I do not share the hateful and bigoted ideas of some the postings about this matter.

Very well said. Thanks!!!

Guest 04-26-2016 06:44 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1217610)
Yes, that sexual choice was automatic for me at an early age (I am a heterosexual). What if I was sexually attracted to my sister, would that attraction make it acceptable to the majority of people? What if I was attracted to killing the neighbor's pets, does that make it acceptable to the majority of people?



If there were a large majority of people that felt it was "icky" (maybe 96.6% of the population), you should understand that it is considered "icky", and keep that stuff to yourself, unless your goal is to have a lot of people tell you how "icky" it is...



I believe; I do have the right to express my feelings of repulsion, if I get enough support from others (maybe 96.6% of the population) we can force our feeling of repulsion on those that are repulsing us.



Why in the world would less than 4% of the population, think they have a right to make the majority of the population (96.6%) feel uncomfortable with that "icky" ****?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...n-or-bisexual/

STOCK UP ON AMMO!

YUP, that is the answer to everything "STOCK UP ON AMMO"

UNBELIEVABLE!!

Guest 04-26-2016 07:11 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1217610)
Yes, that sexual choice was automatic for me at an early age (I am a heterosexual).

As it was for the majority of those who are gay.



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What if I was sexually attracted to my sister, would that attraction make it acceptable to the majority of people? What if I was attracted to killing the neighbor's pets, does that make it acceptable to the majority of people?
That same ridiculous argument was used to oppose interracial marriages.

Or do you think that should also be against the law?




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If there were a large majority of people that felt it was "icky" (maybe 96.6% of the population), you should understand that it is considered "icky", and keep that stuff to yourself, unless your goal is to have a lot of people tell you how "icky" it is...

I believe; I do have the right to express my feelings of repulsion, if I get enough support from others (maybe 96.6% of the population) we can force our feeling of repulsion on those that are repulsing us.

Why in the world would less than 4% of the population, think they have a right to make the majority of the population (96.6%) feel uncomfortable with that "icky" ****?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...n-or-bisexual/
I guess you don't understand, or care, about the dangers of 'majority rule?'

Just because a majority think they can trample and squelch the rights of individuals, doesn't mean it is so.

That is why our government is set up the way it is. The FF's knew about the dangers of majority rule.

And you've still avoided the question of "if it's between two consenting adults, how does that affect you?"



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STOCK UP ON AMMO!
I would've never guessed. :a20:

Guest 04-26-2016 07:11 AM

https://www.buzzfeed.com/emeynardie/...s-toward-26paw

I thought this might be a useful link to put into this discussion.

Guest 04-26-2016 07:29 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1217625)
That same ridiculous argument was used to oppose interracial marriages.

Or do you think that should also be against the law?



I guess you don't understand, or care, about the dangers of 'majority rule?'

Just because a majority think they can trample and squelch the rights of individuals, doesn't mean it is so.

That is why our government is set up the way it is. The FF's knew about the dangers of majority rule.

And you've still avoided the question of "if it's between two consenting adults, how does that affect you?"

You REALLY think interracial marriages are a GOOD thing? How about inter-species? Into that too?

The FFs knew the danger of rule by ANYONE other than "their guys". That's why the election system is as corrupt as it is. The "Electoral College" is there because they didn't trust the ignorant rabble. They were protecting their rule by making sure votes by people like you didn't matter.

Two consenting adults can do whatever they wish...in the privacy of their own home. When they take their disgusting behavior out into public, that's when I have a problem with it. When they demand institutions be changed to fit their perversion...I have a problem with it.

Same with minorities. It's the changes they make to everything that I don't like. They destroy everything they touch. When they reach a certain percentage, quality of life PLUMMETS. That is what I have a problem with.

It's NOT skin color, it's everything else about them.

Guest 04-26-2016 08:03 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1217625)
As it was for the majority of those who are gay.

How do you know if the majority of gays (all 3.4% of the population) were initially attracted to same sex?


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Posted by Guest (Post 1217625)
That same ridiculous argument was used to oppose interracial marriages.

Was it? Maybe it was because it (the opinion of the majority) is an important consideration with regard to any action.


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Posted by Guest (Post 1217625)
I guess you don't understand, or care, about the dangers of 'majority rule?'

Just because a majority think they can trample and squelch the rights of individuals, doesn't mean it is so.

That is why our government is set up the way it is. The FF's knew about the dangers of majority rule.

Got anything to illustrate how the FF's felt being queer was acceptable?

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Posted by Guest (Post 1217625)
And you've still avoided the question of "if it's between two consenting adults, how does that affect you?"

I believe I explained how it affects me, I think it is "icky". Nothing more "icky" than some ugly bull dike kissing on some other ugly bull dike, well other than some limp wristed pecker puffer kissing on some other limp wristed pecker puffer of course. Thank goodness they only represent 3.4% of the population.

You avoided answering the question about incest and killing pets...

STOCK UP ON AMMO!

Guest 04-26-2016 08:08 AM

"The slide into oblivion continues" is certainly an appropriate title for how this thread is progressing!

Guest 04-26-2016 08:13 AM

Turn's out that the stress of hating shortens your life.

Guest 04-26-2016 08:23 AM

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"The slide into oblivion continues" is certainly an appropriate title for how this thread is progressing!

Say's the little girl with nothing of substance to add...because you have no original ideas.

Sliding into oblivion describes our nation...heck the world these days.

Got anything factual to add?

Then better to listen and learn something.

Show me ANYTHING or ANYWHERE that has improved with the addition of a lot of minorities. Besides sports and entertainment. Show me a town, a city, a country that improved for everyone with the addition, majority of minorities. Show me a school, a business, anything, that improved in ranking, standing, etc., with the addition or a majority of minorities.

You keep telling "us" we're wrong, our thinking is antiquated, unfair, destructive. PROVE it with ONE thing/place that improved after a large influx of minorities or a majority of minorities. You keep saying we're "racist" and unfair. OK, here's your chance to prove us wrong. I'm ready for your list of "black paradises", exceptional "black countries". Even a black business that is a world leader. Find me ONE thing they can do better.

You can't find one thing they're as good or better at and you expect me to consider them equal? The drugs really were good in the 60s, huh?


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