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Guest 04-26-2016 10:06 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1218028)
I notice that it is quite easy to back you into a corner using your own statements . :boxing2:

Explain how you saw that happen?

Guest 04-26-2016 10:19 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1218031)
What are you reading this week?

I am reading two books :

1] " The Coldest Winter : America and The Korean War " by David Halberstam

And today I began

2] " Bradley : A Soldier`s Story " by General Omar Bradley :)

Guest 04-26-2016 10:26 PM

1] " The Coldest Winter : America and The Korean War " by David Halberstam
What did you learn?

Guest 04-26-2016 11:31 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1218042)
1] " The Coldest Winter : America and The Korean War " by David Halberstam
What did you learn?

Plenty . One major discussion concerned the then US Policy on China .
The major publisher who controlled Time and Life Magazines as well as several major daily papers Henry Luce was ordering that reports from his journalists in the field as to what was actually happening in China with the Communists and the Free China forces be rewritten to reflect his personal view .

One of the major reporters was Theodore White who got so disgusted that he posted a sign on his office in Taiwan that said " Any resemblance between what is actually written in this office and published under my name in Time is purely
coincidental . [ this speaks to the long practiced tradition of those who control the editorial offices more often than not seek to mold public opinion to their liking ] .
After WWII ended we allowed our military to become poorly equipped and poorly trained and under staffed and they were completely unprepared for the outbreak of the Korean invasion by the North Koreans and the Chinese Communist Armies .
How`s that for my book report .

Guest 04-27-2016 04:08 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1217939)
And it did not bother me that both my next door neighbors were liberals.
That is so nice of you. Did your property value go down?

Actually, they were here before me. And no, I don't believe that property values went down. I bought when the prices were down. I thank the libtards of congress such as Frank/Dodd every day for causing the mortgage bubble to burst. I did rather well.

As for my neighbors? They are no longer here. But, I have no animosity toward liberals. They can't help it if they have been protected all their lives and are ignorant of such ideas as Freedom, Liberty and Morals. You can't hate folks that are ignorant. You just have to work with them and try to teach them the error of their ways. You have to teach them that socialism is not being progressive, but regressive and doomed to failure. No economy can sustain socialism long term. America tried socialism in it's beginning via the Mayflower Compact and failed. They learned where other countries did not. Because our youth are ignorant and badly educated, Bernie is able to easily mislead them with his great socialism. He is the pied piper of socialism, but at least he is one liberal that admits that he is a socialist. Hillary tried and gave up trying to out-socialize him when she learned that it wasn't working for her. She has to keep her leftist lean toward socialism camouflaged as liberalism.

I'll take Capitalism over gov controlled socialism. I may not like The Donald, but he understands capitalism so he will get my vote. Once we get the economy right, the other stuff will work out. I'm not PC, so bathroom etiquette, gay marriage and black lives matter is just so much diversion that can be straightened out later. Why the gov needs to get involved anyway is a puzzle. First things first. The economy, national security, enforcing illegal invasion laws. Those are more important than gay feelings and minority attempts at bullying law enforcement.

So, no liberals in the neighborhood did not harm property value. Every neighborhood should have a liberal or two to give them perspective. Everyone should "know thy enemy."

Guest 04-27-2016 05:53 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1218056)
Plenty . One major discussion concerned the then US Policy on China .
The major publisher who controlled Time and Life Magazines as well as several major daily papers Henry Luce was ordering that reports from his journalists in the field as to what was actually happening in China with the Communists and the Free China forces be rewritten to reflect his personal view .

One of the major reporters was Theodore White who got so disgusted that he posted a sign on his office in Taiwan that said " Any resemblance between what is actually written in this office and published under my name in Time is purely
coincidental . [ this speaks to the long practiced tradition of those who control the editorial offices more often than not seek to mold public opinion to their liking ] .
After WWII ended we allowed our military to become poorly equipped and poorly trained and under staffed and they were completely unprepared for the outbreak of the Korean invasion by the North Koreans and the Chinese Communist Armies .
How`s that for my book report .

Believe NOTHING you see. hear. or read, in the "media". EVERYTHING is propaganda.

Guest 04-27-2016 06:59 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1218002)
Liberals, conservatives, and personality traits | Bleader | Chicago Reader

"The best predictor of party preference wasn’t any of the socio-demographic characteristics—it was the personality trait “openness,” which in the big five model means curious, original, intellectual, creative, and open to new ideas. Openness was tightly linked with voting for the liberal party. The second-best predictor was the personality trait “conscientiousness”—organized, systematic, punctual, achievement-oriented, and dependable. Those high in conscientiousness were likely to vote for the conservative party."

Now I ask you, would Jesus be a liberal or a conservative?

When an atheist liberal asks questions like this, it's only to divert and trap the conversation. It's meaningless if the libtard is a non-believer and the answer will be meaningless. Just like gays attempting to find flaws in the Bible in order to justify their behavior. If you are a non-believer, what difference does it make?

Guest 04-27-2016 08:03 AM

"Would Jesus be a liberal or a conservative?" can be answered by anyone. How people answer will depend on their own beliefs. You don't have to be a Christian to answer and there are no wrong answers. You do need to think. So why not answer the question instead of trying to analyse the person who asked?

Many people post. And if anyone drifts left of center for some people they are the enemy and lumped together as if only one person is posting. Those of you who have read a bit and seen a bit know that creating a bogeyman keeps certain groups together and keeps them angry. That is comfortable for them.

The intent of my question was to learn about others but the only thing I learned is that people are more afraid of looking foolish or being wrong then going outside their comfort zone.

Guest 04-27-2016 08:23 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1218130)
"Would Jesus be a liberal or a conservative?" can be answered by anyone. How people answer will depend on their own beliefs. You don't have to be a Christian to answer and there are no wrong answers. You do need to think. So why not answer the question instead of trying to analyse the person who asked?

Many people post. And if anyone drifts left of center for some people they are the enemy and lumped together as if only one person is posting. Those of you who have read a bit and seen a bit know that creating a bogeyman keeps certain groups together and keeps them angry. That is comfortable for them.

The intent of my question was to learn about others but the only thing I learned is that people are more afraid of looking foolish or being wrong then going outside their comfort zone.

I didn't answer because I don't believe in Jesus, Paul made the whole thing up, well most of it, he really IS Christianity. So, the correct question is...what would Paul do?

Guest 04-27-2016 08:38 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1218136)
I didn't answer because I don't believe in Jesus, Paul made the whole thing up, well most of it, he really IS Christianity. So, the correct question is...what would Paul do?

Was Paul a liberal or conservative? And why do you think so?

Guest 04-27-2016 08:48 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1218145)
Was Paul a liberal or conservative? And why do you think so?

How response be made when comparing the influence of the permissive, promiscuous values of today VS the restritictive influences and values of people who lived back then.

Other than opinion and speculation there can not be a valid comparison.

Guest 04-27-2016 09:36 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1218076)
Believe NOTHING you see. hear. or read, in the "media". EVERYTHING is propaganda.

Believe ONLY what you read on TOTV Politics forum! :boom:

Guest 04-27-2016 10:14 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1218002)
Liberals, conservatives, and personality traits | Bleader | Chicago Reader

"The best predictor of party preference wasn’t any of the socio-demographic characteristics—it was the personality trait “openness,” which in the big five model means curious, original, intellectual, creative, and open to new ideas. Openness was tightly linked with voting for the liberal party. The second-best predictor was the personality trait “conscientiousness”—organized, systematic, punctual, achievement-oriented, and dependable. Those high in conscientiousness were likely to vote for the conservative party."

Now I ask you, would Jesus be a liberal or a conservative?

Very interesting . Just happens that my " Myers Briggs " results over the decades always comes up aligned with the attributes you describe above however my politics since age 18 have always aligned with the Republicans .
Also I was raised in a Blue Collar Catholic family . My Dad was a Union Official in his local and my Mom held local office as a Dem .
They had 4 children . All went to college and paid for 100% of it themselves . All 4 went on to a Graduate Degree . One is a Teacher , one became a Chief Executive Officer of a publicly traded company , one became a senior executive of a publicly traded financial institution , one became an engineer and a senior manager in a technology company .
Yet unbeknown to one another until recently , all 4 of us at age 18 became and remain registered Republicans . This simple example of one family blows apart your high tone theory that the " thinking and highly educated citizens " among us will gravitate to the D-Party .

Guest 04-27-2016 10:24 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1218204)
Very interesting . Just happens that my " Myers Briggs " results over the decades always comes up aligned with the attributes you describe above however my politics since age 18 have always aligned with the Republicans .
Also I was raised in a Blue Collar Catholic family . My Dad was a Union Official in his local and my Mom held local office as a Dem .
They had 4 children . All went to college and paid for 100% of it themselves . All 4 went on to a Graduate Degree . One is a Teacher , one became a Chief Executive Officer of a publicly traded company , one became a senior executive of a publicly traded financial institution , one became an engineer and a senior manager in a technology company .
Yet unbeknown to one another until recently , all 4 of us at age 18 became and remain registered Republicans . This simple example of one family blows apart your high tone theory that the " thinking and highly educated citizens " among us will gravitate to the D-Party .

"It is up to each person to recognize his or her true preferences."
Isabel Briggs Myers

You do understand that the quote is not mine.
Liberals, conservatives, and personality traits
Posted By Steve Bogira on 08.18.11 at 01:27 PM is the source I quoted.

The other quote from the same article I cut and pasted that you did not mention was
"A study in American Political Science Review in 2005 went further: its authors focused on identical and non-identical twins, and found that “political attitudes are influenced much more heavily by genetics than by parental socialization.”

That your siblings all came to the same conclusion is in alignment with the study in American Political Science Review in 2005. Wouldn't you agree?

I don't know what to think for sure. That's why I do research. It's either nature or nurture or both. I think it's both.

Guest 04-27-2016 10:27 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1218130)
"Would Jesus be a liberal or a conservative?" can be answered by anyone. How people answer will depend on their own beliefs. You don't have to be a Christian to answer and there are no wrong answers. You do need to think. So why not answer the question instead of trying to analyse the person who asked?

Many people post. And if anyone drifts left of center for some people they are the enemy and lumped together as if only one person is posting. Those of you who have read a bit and seen a bit know that creating a bogeyman keeps certain groups together and keeps them angry. That is comfortable for them.

The intent of my question was to learn about others but the only thing I learned is that people are more afraid of looking foolish or being wrong then going outside their comfort zone.

TROLL bait.


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